Battle of Longewala- This day...41 years ago!

[SQ8]

same thing happens for u too; its not fair to only judge the results of war just by watching or reading Pakistani sources.

The same can be said otherwise.
The reality is in the middle.. from the mouths of those that actually fought it..
and these accounts should not have passed through the garbage can of the propaganda machines.

 

[DroneAcharya]

The same can be said otherwise.
The reality is in the middle.. from the mouths of those that actually fought it..
and these accounts should not have passed through the garbage can of the propaganda machines.

The reality is not only from the mouths who fought, but by accounts who can independently corroborate the said events. Now, in the other thread that you just closed down saying as sensationalism and flamebait and propaganda and what-not, the events have been independently verified and corroborated, thereby are entirely factual. Now simply because it is not up to your taste, would you suppress such background information from coming out ?

 

[ROCKETRAJA]

i'll still say 26/11 and world is witness to it.

as supporting 26/11, are you a terrorist supporter? or r u?????

 

[Umair Nawaz]

1948, when you were able to capture 1/3 territory of the super power, princely state of Kashmir. And 1965, when you had super successful operation Gibraltar. Yeah, your wins.

LOLdude u dont know history of 1948.
Operation gibralter that u claim only but u dont have any proof of that. other then yr own sources or wikipedia.
There is no concrete proof of that!.
The 1965 war was started in 6th September 1965 and lasted for 17 days, till 23 September 1965. When ur forces crossed the international borders in the early hours of the 6th september morning ie 3am n launched their advance towards Lahore.
That invasion was denied. Next Big Battle was the Battle of Chawinda Where the biggest armored battle took place after WW2 and Pak won it.
The other main battle is the Sea Raid on yr Coastal town of Dwarka which was done by navy n won by it without sustaining any damage even yr navy had a aircraft carrier too which was docked in port but never used against our fleet.

Now what did u do other then those fantasy of capturing of land etc etc mentioned in wikipedia only

same thing happens for u too; its not fair to only judge the results of war just by watching or reading Pakistani sources.

Yes i completely agree only neutral sources should be trusted!!!

 

[Umair Nawaz]

1948 was not a war but an invasion of kashmir by forces on both sides. We occupied 70% and you the remaining 30%.

Lol go and tell that 1965 bs to someone else like Zaid hamid. Pakistan has not won a single war against India.

LOL what a joke u go n tell ''Pakistan has not won a single war against India'' this crap to yr like minded once of RSS, Shev Sehna, BJP and Narendra Modi type radical terrorists, u dont have any credible proof other then just wikipedia

so all the attacks happening in Pakistan are military raid by taliban and al queda. I was thinking that was terrorist attacks.

LOL i used to think Mumbai saga was too a terrorist act/attack, its just ajtr used these words n i had posted a reply to her not u.
But it seems u people have a had habit of inter fairing into others business/debates.

 

[SQ8]

The reality is not only from the mouths who fought, but by accounts who can independently corroborate the said events. Now, in the other thread that you just closed down saying as sensationalism and flamebait and propaganda and what-not, the events have been independently verified and corroborated, thereby are entirely factual. Now simply because it is not up to your taste, would you suppress such background information from coming out ?

who?

and more importantly.. when those events were corroborated.. those versions exclude the jingoism bull-crap that is all in that piece.

 

[DroneAcharya]

who?

and more importantly.. when those events were corroborated.. those versions exclude the jingoism bull-crap that is all in that piece.

Do you really want signatures from your soldiers who surrendered to the 4/5 Gurkha FF saying they were terrified from the war-cries that made them surrender to a 500 battalion-sized force ? Or do you believe that 31 Punjab led by Hussain Shah did not surrender based on his accounts ?

 

[SQ8]

Do you really want signatures from your soldiers who surrendered to the 4/5 Gurkha FF saying they were terrified from the war-cries that made them surrender to a 500 battalion-sized force ? Or do you believe that 31 Punjab led by Hussain Shah did not surrender based on his accounts ?

Yeah.. I do want signatures..
his accounts probably did not have anything to do with war cries and sensationalism in dialogues.
Unless you like that sort of bollywood drama.

 

[帅的一匹]

This is more like typical Indian propaganda, 120 vs 2800 BS.

 

[Kloitra]

This is more like typical Indian propaganda, 120 vs 2800 BS.

Did you even read the thread?

LOLdude u dont know history of 1948.
Operation gibralter that u claim only but u dont have any proof of that. other then yr own sources or wikipedia.
There is no concrete proof of that!.

Oh yeah, how could I blame Op Gibraltar on Pakistan. After all, you have no such history, of infiltrating as mujahideen n all. Never have Pakistan attempted something like that, hiding your army as non-state actors. I totally agree.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

They made a amateur attack without air cover in enemy territory probably thinking indians would run away from the 'ghazis',but the indian infantry stood its ground,and the invaders in turn got owned like a group of novices .

 

[帅的一匹]

They made a amateur attack without air cover in enemy territory probably thinking indians would run away from the 'ghazis',but the indian infantry stood its ground,and the invaders in turn got owned like a group of novices .

As you said, the battle was totally unfair. You got help from IAF there while PA without air support.

 

[dollarman]

As you said, the battle was totally unfair. You got help from IAF there while PA without air support.

More like bad planning by Pak Generals/higher military. Battles are not won and lost by soldiers, its by Generals that plan the attack/war, and their tactics/decisions play a huge role. No such thing as a fair war vs unfair war. More of a case of competence vs incompetence.

 

[malgudi]

I dont think that figures are unrealistic. A well trenched platoon can hold/delay a large size army.What major kuldeep singh's 120 men did was to hold on larger pakistani force till next daylight. Same thing like kasab and hi men did -they held whole of mumbai police force,navy MARCOS,NSG,ARMY etc for whole 3 days by being well entrenched in hotel taj and at chabbad house.

What an idiotic comparision. Kasab and co. were holding civilians as hostages and were on a killing spree. The forces viz the MARCOS, police force, navy, army, NSG, air force, the UN peace keeping force etc etc had to taken into account the civilian well being as well. The two incidents are in now way similar!

One is an act of exemplary bravery, the other sheer cowardness!

 

[kurup]

As you said, the battle was totally unfair. You got help from IAF there while PA without air support.

You are calling something unfair in a war .

It was not our problem that PAF never came to help PA.