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Bara tribesmen refuse to pay fine over security forces’ losses

Why would the entire tribe pay for the misdeeds of a few ?

Because entire tribe had an agreement with government that they will not attack security forces nor harbour terrorists. They harboured them hoping to make money and making bet on wrong party to win. It is payback time now.
 
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Because entire tribe had an agreement with government that they will not attack security forces nor harbour terrorists. They harboured them hoping to make money and making bet on wrong party to win. It is payback time now.

This is exactly the primitive & antiquated method of law enforcement I was referring to .
 
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Demand compensation over destroyed property
Shah Faisal told Dawn that his tribe was not ready to pay the fine come what may. “It is totally unjust and not acceptable as we have not committed any crime,” he said, adding that his tribe was ready to resolve the issue through negotiations.

Mr Faisal said that properties of Sipah families worth billions of rupees were destroyed during the military operations while more than 200 shops in Bara Bazaar were demolished in the name of repairing the road but they were not paid a single penny as compensation.

He said that imposition of such a hefty fine had no precedent in the entire Fata. The political administration made the Sipah tribe a scapegoat to hide its inefficiency and failure to restore peace in Bara.

“We have formed a committee to hold parlays with the government but we would not hesitate in starting agitation if the government refuses to acknowledge our just demands of withdrawing the fine,” the tribal elder said.

Also read: Tribes vow to resist operation

The Khyber Agency political administration had a few months ago handed over a list of over 100 wanted men including the fugitive leader of Lashkar-i-Islam, Mangal Bagh, with a warning that they would not be allowed to come back to their homes if those wanted men, all belonging to Sipah tribe, were not surrendered to the administration.

Although Sipah elders managed to surrender some of the wanted men, yet they expressed their inability to track down Mangal Bagh and his close associates.

Sipah tribe was also made responsible for ensuring the security of Bara Bazaar when the administration announced its plan of reopening the historic bazaar.

Sipah tribe is yet to shoulder the responsibility as it had demanded of the administration to announce a comprehensive compensation package for both the Sipah traders and ordinary tribesmen, who had incurred huge monetary loses during the military operation in Bara.

Mr Faisal accused the Bara administration of demolishing their shops in Bara Bazaar without taking them into confidence and without conducting a survey regarding collective damage caused to Sipah tribe.

Our Peshawar Bureau adds: The reports about demolition of commercial and residential properties in Mirali and Miramshah have worried the elders of Utmanzai tribe of North Waziristan Agency.

A jirga of Utmanzai tribe was held in Hayatabad Peshawar on Monday that was attended by a large number of elders and other stakeholders. The tribal elders said that they received reports that security forces started demolition of properties in Miramshah and Mirali bazaars and in the surrounding areas.

They said that after operation Zarb-i-Azb, the local residents and shopkeepers were not allowed to shift their goods and belongings from shops and homes. They said that shops and houses were being bulldozed in two towns of the tribal agency.

Addressing the jirga, Malik Khan Marjan said that flushing out militants from the area was no justification to demolish the houses. He said that people of North Waziristan Agency had sacrificed for the security of the country by vacating their homes and cooperated with the security forces in establishing writ of the state.

Mr Marjan said that the government failed to fulfil its commitments to repatriate the internally displaced persons. He demanded of the government to ensure protection of properties in Miramshah and Mirali and give them proper compensation.

Published in Dawn, May 26th, 2015
Bara tribesmen refuse to pay fine over security forces’ losses - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

He said that imposition of such a hefty fine had no precedent in the entire Fata.

This operation is all about setting new precedent. Get accustomed to it. You are either with Pakistan or you are against it. Attacking the armed forces is aggression which cannot go unchecked. Thank your stars that you're being shown leniency.
 
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Ask US of A for money, I dont think so there is any need to push the tribesmen to pay, when war has been inflicted upon them for over a decade, they rather be given compensation for the losses.
 
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I don't think fine should be imposed , price for treason should be death.
Those who aided and abetted the enemy or acted like the enemy should be tried and executed.
 
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These people are the one most affected by Mangal bag terrorism and yet making pay for the crimes they didn't comit or has control over is non -understandable

Exterminate them or deport to Afghanistan.

These are the people who will be the first to lay their lives for this country when the likes of you will run with a tail between their legs...
 
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Its amazing to see that antiquated old British days methods of collective punishment is still in vogue in Pakistan !

Why would the entire tribe pay for the misdeeds of a few ?
Interesting the small sub-tribe is fined for not apprehending Mangal Bagh, a very powerful and fearsome militant leader who has now joined TTP. FCR is clearly misused here, tribesmen are heavily fined but they are not compensated for their heavy material losses due to military operation. Tribesmen have to realize that FCR works fine in peace times but is bad news in war times. From Bajaur to Waziristan, the loopholes in FCR has crippled down tribes since 2004. Its time they demand abolition of FCR
 
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FCR is clearly misused here, tribesmen are heavily fined but they are not compensated for their heavy material losses due to military operation

This misuse and intimidation is going on for long time. The part of the solution is to merge FATA with KPK and slowly end the tribal system.
 
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