Bankruptcy is no big deal for us. Zardari

[Menace2Society]

koi iss chotia ko batayy... Japan has 1.3 trillion dollars of reserves. And he should also mention his reserve too and show the graph of rocket increase.

Isn't it ironic Sharifs and Zardaris got richer and Pakistan got poorer.

 

[kingQamaR]

In case of a default, we should make a regional treaty with Afghanistan and Iran and Central Asian Republics which are under Russian influence and start trading with them in local currencies or Gold and Silver or Barter Trade. Also possible with India and China. Get Palm Oil from Indonesia & Malaysia in local currency or Gold & Silver. Buy Petrol and Diesel from Iran and Russia on cheap rates. End agreements with IPPs and stop buying expensive electricity from them. Similarly, buy LNG from Qatar and pay them in Wheat, Sugar and Rice. Sell garments and rock salt to African countries. In season, sell vegetables and fruits to UAE and get Gold and Silver from them in return.

Also nationalize the businesses of UK and western companies in Pakistan if they touch our assets abroad.

It depends from country to country what will happen. Can you feed your own population? Are you producing something that you can trade with others ? Then there are possibilities. Most important; is there a majority that can decide to hold their back straight and not to bend . There are roughly 3 options: 1) recovery 2) takeover and become a satellite or puppet -state 3) become a failed state where nobody wants intervene. Anybody disagree?

 

[HAIDER]

Isn't it ironic Sharifs and Zardaris got richer and Pakistan got poorer.

Karachi elite land mafia work under PPP govt ... every year 3 billion dollars earned by this mafia. Wonder why Karachi business people wants to talk to COAS....

 

[Corruptistan]

Of course not when the biggest mafia dynasty in Pakistan's history (Zardaris, Bhuttos and PPP) will continue to rob Sindh of its wealth uninterrupted. After all they are behaving like if Sindh was their personal fiefdom.

 

[kingQamaR]

Karachi elite land mafia work under PPP govt ... every year 3 billion dollars earned by this mafia. Wonder why Karachi business people wants to talk to COAS....

It’s not just Karachi , various other cities and towns of Pakistan portray the same soiled picture. And credit goes to non other than the two ultra corrupt basTards of Pakistan , Nawaz sharif and zardari Islamabad on the other hand is clean with good infrastructure just because of western diplomats / families and government officials live there ! Nice

 

[HAIDER]

It’s not just Karachi , various other cities and towns of Pakistan portray the same soiled picture. And credit goes to non other than the two ultra corrupt basTards of Pakistan , Nawaz sharif and zardari Islamabad on the other hand is clean with good infrastructure just because of western diplomats / families and government officials live there ! Nice

Well, Islamabad green buffer zone is going to be the next victim. Shahbaz PS and Zardari land around margalla hills.
And Diesel Fazlo wants the whole FATA ..re implement FCR The British Draconian law.

 

[Menace2Society]

Islamabad on the other hand is clean with good infrastructure just because of western diplomats / families and government officials live there ! Nice

Hardly. Pakistan doesn't have a single 1 mile radius developed city centre in the entire country.

 

[JackTheRipper]

In case of a default, we should make a regional treaty with Afghanistan and Iran and Central Asian Republics which are under Russian influence and start trading with them in local currencies or Gold and Silver or Barter Trade. Also possible with India and China. Get Palm Oil from Indonesia & Malaysia in local currency or Gold & Silver. Buy Petrol and Diesel from Iran and Russia on cheap rates. End agreements with IPPs and stop buying expensive electricity from them. Similarly, buy LNG from Qatar and pay them in Wheat, Sugar and Rice. Sell garments and rock salt to African countries. In season, sell vegetables and fruits to UAE and get Gold and Silver from them in return.

Also nationalize the businesses of UK and western companies in Pakistan if they touch our assets abroad.

Iran is sinking in US sanctions and until Mullah out of the govt, sanctions are not going, so no chance Gas, Petrol, Electricity from Iran

African countries are sinking in poverty, seems no chance they will accept barter trade, they will ask for money, if it was possible Pakistan get this opportunity with Kenya for Tea.

Nearly all countries will refused for Barter.

Nationalizing will fk more to this country than Privatization,
If Pakistan try this any one country of West, All EU will attack you like Hyenas

Leave UMMA CHUMMA countries they are TATTI.
Saudi, Qatar, UAE will not help you, If they were good then this and previous govt not went to IMF.

 

[HAIDER]

Iran is sinking in US sanctions and until Mullah out of the govt, sanctions are not going, so no chance Gas, Petrol, Electricity from Iran

African countries are sinking in poverty, seems no chance they will accept barter trade, they will ask for money, if it was possible Pakistan get this opportunity with Kenya for Tea.

Nearly all countries will refused for Barter.

Nationalizing will fk more to this country than Privatization,
If Pakistan try this any one country of West, All EU will attack you like Hyenas

Leave UMMA CHUMMA countries they are TATTI.
Saudi, Qatar, UAE will not help you, If they were good then this and previous govt not went to IMF.

Before the sheiks of Saudi, Qatar, UAE run the country's finance. Now their financial matters are run by Western return native and British top firms. They reinvest the money to generate more income. Why do they give money to Pakistan at low interest rate and Dar asks for rollover .... they are not that simple anymore ....

 

[kingQamaR]

Hardly. Pakistan doesn't have a single 1 mile radius developed city centre in the entire country.

and it won’t ever develop . Because of corruption and theft, why most of Pakistan cities are in a sorry state,

 

[R2D2]

Like we all take our money and march out to the market to buy up all the gold coins we can find? Anybody see problems with that mayhem? A referendum is not going to help. After all, Gen Zia got 98.5% of the vote in his referendum to properly Islamize the country. We can all see what actually happened.



Does this most excellent perfectest Consitution based on Islamic evidences have a section on how to start this transition that you propose?

The thoughts of the author were to initiate discussions with the holders of real power to implementation. This was based on Prophet SAW discussing and propagating Islam to various tribes and their leaders in Arabia. The Tribal Leaders had real authority over their area. Thus when the Ansar of Medina offered to host the Prophet SAW and his companions, he accepted their offer.

The author says that in today's context, the holders of real authority are the leaders of the Army.

Imran Khan was propagating his thoughts in Pakistan. Then the army supported him and brought him to power. So it will be in this general way that you propagate Islam in the society as a system as compared to Capitalism and Socialism and also meet power brokers in army, politics, business and social leaders. When enough people are convinced they will bring Islam in the country.

 

[R2D2]

Iran is sinking in US sanctions and until Mullah out of the govt, sanctions are not going, so no chance Gas, Petrol, Electricity from Iran

African countries are sinking in poverty, seems no chance they will accept barter trade, they will ask for money, if it was possible Pakistan get this opportunity with Kenya for Tea.

Nearly all countries will refused for Barter.

Nationalizing will fk more to this country than Privatization,
If Pakistan try this any one country of West, All EU will attack you like Hyenas

Leave UMMA CHUMMA countries they are TATTI.
Saudi, Qatar, UAE will not help you, If they were good then this and previous govt not went to IMF.

Previously, Barter Trade was being done between Azad Kashmir and Indian Occupied Kashmir in fruits and vegetables. You may remember premium bananas from India were selling in Pakistani market. I only say it as a second or third option. First you try trade with neighbors in local currencies instead of dollar, then you try Gold, after that you try barter trade.

Like we all take our money and march out to the market to buy up all the gold coins we can find? Anybody see problems with that mayhem? A referendum is not going to help. After all, Gen Zia got 98.5% of the vote in his referendum to properly Islamize the country. We can all see what actually happened.



Does this most excellent perfectest Consitution based on Islamic evidences have a section on how to start this transition that you propose?

This is a better typed version

 

[El Sidd]

People will definitely struggle to pay Khumms to Xerderi.

 

[SaadH]

I am in Pakistan for a temporary visit. Today I sat with a fellow rickshaw driver. A police officer drove by and hit a puddle of water which splashed the rickshaw driver. It made the young fellow angry. He made some gestures to the police officer to watch out. The police officer opened the door of his car and told the young fellow to be more "tolerant" and "patient". I watched on. The young fellow again made some gestures and the police officer drove off angrily in arrogance. The angry looks of the police officer in the car were telling. As if he wanted to literally kill the rickshaw driver.

It is what the young fellow said in the heat of the moment which really struck me. He said that the day isn't far off when the people will grab these "officials" in power by their neck and drag them on the streets. The officials in power are corrupt and arrogant. They don't care about the people. It really made me think for a moment. This is not the Pakistan I have seen before. Day 1 in Pakistan and I am already seeing a changed Pakistan all around me.

Police are also bloody civilians, in fact used as a canon fodder by the sepoy heads...

Until they dare to the challenge the sepoys, nothing will change. Police has been treated as redheaded step children from day one, many a civilians have slapped, challenged and beaten up policemen since long...

 

[VCheng]

The thoughts of the author were to initiate discussions with the holders of real power to implementation.

Why would the holders of real power do anything to jeopardize their own hold on power?

When enough people are convinced they will bring Islam in the country.

I agree with you here. Except that it has not happened for a long time despite all the fervent claims and enforcements, and it likely will not happen for a long time to come, either.