Bangladesh rally attracts tens of thousands to demand new elections - BBC News

[bluesky]

You spoke about inspirational Zia - now you are shamed because that name is linked to an indefensible family.

Unfortunately for you and your chamcha @Bilal9, Hasina's legacy is pretty much solidified.

With the Padma setu, MRT, nuclear plants she has initiated an era of works that will echo for decades. Even in 100 years, children will have to be told that Hasina built their main infrastructure. Just like we talk about Ershad and his public works.

What can be said of khaleda and tareks 2 terms? Nothing to show whatsoever - and you want to hand them the largest budget in history - a budget built up slowly, steadily by Hasina?

Why do you tie up legacy with democracy as if they are linked. Since when have great legacies needed democracy? Mahatir or Soeharto ring a bell?

And to talk about democracy and BDs opposition - BNP, Jamaat - in the same breath is the biggest joke of all. Those parties literally had to be militarily ousted because of their vote rigging.

Ps. A BA is not proof of intelligence - but watching your child die slowly from drug abuse - while being the most powerful person in the country is definitely proof of dumbness.

A small nut without thinking power remains a small nut throughout his life history. So, keep on defaming Ziaur Rahman.

History writers will love you for this.

 

[VikingRaider]

BD future should be Presidential. Two parties' system has been proven not suitable for BD. Presidential system with multi-party system.

Decentralization with free election for every Governor as well.

Also presidential system is the key to test someone's popularity in a country!

Also president doesn't have to rely on lackeys , and elected by direct vote of people , so he/she has more scopes to do something good for people!

Im sure if we had presidential form of election , Hasina would be president conservatively several times , specially after the disastrous 2001-2006 BNP Jamat regime.

But due to parliamentary system her reputation is now almost gone.

There are still time , if she stop paying attention to her lackeys and transfer the power to a non political technocrat govt and let the govt run the country 3/4 years .

And again presidential system restored ,and even if she want to contest in the election , she still has better chance to win , as people would like to elect her without voting for the heinous BAL criminals!

But it looks her safe exit is becoming impossible because of her corrupted lackeys!

However, she is also not free from corruption ( but lesser evil ) ,as no politicians is firishta in Bangladesh, but the corruption of her lackeys' really have no limit!

 

[Indos]

Also presidential system is the key to test someone's popularity in a country!

Also president doesn't have to rely on lackeys , and elected by direct vote of people , so he/she has more scopes to do something good for people!

Im sure if we had presidential form of election , Hasina would be president conservatively several times , specially after the disastrous 2001-2006 BNP Jamat regime.

But due to parliamentary system her reputation is now almost gone.

There are still time , if she stop paying attention to her lackeys and transfer the power to a non political technocrat govt and let the govt run the country 3/4 years .

And again presidential system restored ,and even if she want to contest in the election , she still has better chance to win , as people would like to elect her without voting for the heinous BAL criminals!

But it looks her safe exit is becoming impossible because of her corrupted lackeys!

However, she is also not free from corruption ( but lesser evil ) ,as no politicians is firishta in Bangladesh, but the corruption of her lackeys' really have no limit!

Intermezo for our BD friends

Anti Government demonstration in Thailand

 

[fallstuff]

None of us (including @Nergal bhai or @bluesky bhai) are BNP sycophants.

BNP itself has gone through plenty of bad phases, including bad decisions taken by Khaleda and her sons.

But to blame a dead guy for what his wife and sons did after the fact is just plain "bhondami" by fifth columnists.

Zia himself was a thousand times better as an administrator than the Sheikh. Most importantly

I don't understand this sychofancy type of behavior of the folks supporting AL.
Who cares about who runs Bangladesh as long as it runs decent !
I left Bangladesh decades ago, it doesn't matter to me who runs it as long as it improves the lives of the poor people.

As they say in America, i don't have a dog in this fight other than seeing poorer folks do better.

 

[Destranator]

The most acceptable option to all the people in Bangladesh is an unelected technocratic Govt.

So now you are against democracy?

Zia himself was a thousand times better as an administrator than the Sheikh.

To be fair to "Sheikh", so was everyone else after him.

 

[Destranator]

Intermezo for our BD friends

Anti Government demonstration in Thailand

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[UKBengali]

BD future should be Presidential. Two parties' system has been proven not suitable for BD. Presidential system with multi-party system.

Decentralization with free election for every Governor as well.

BD is around a decade away before this can become a reality.

There is no real appetite from the common public to replace a government that has produced stability and high economic growth.

 

[fallstuff]

So now you are against democracy?


To be fair to "Sheikh", so was everyone else after him.

There is a difference between what I think and what people want.
Bangladesh belongs to the people, not to me or any party.

 

[Indos]

BD is around a decade away before this can become a reality.

There is no real appetite from the common public to replace a government that has produced stability and high economic growth.

The chance to do some sort of revolution can only happened during difficult economic condition

I believe BD people can produce good leader if Presidential election is held fairly

You can have your dream leader

This is the moment to make history

 

[Destranator]

There is a difference between what I think and what people want.
Bangladesh belongs to the people, not to me or any party.

Unfortunately, majority of the BD population are still too delusional to be able to assess current options and determine what is best for them in the long term.

Your idea of a technocratic government is a good one.
We need such a power to take over before Hasina retires.
Unfortunately, until such a power rises, the least chaotic option is to tolerate BAL.

 

[EasyNow]

None of us (including @Nergal bhai or @bluesky bhai) are BNP sycophants.

BNP itself has gone through plenty of bad phases, including bad decisions taken by Khaleda and her sons.

But to blame a dead guy for what his wife and sons did after the fact is just plain "bhondami" by fifth columnists.

Zia himself was a thousand times better as an administrator than the Sheikh. Most importantly

Here you go looking foolish again. Your friend has already revealed his party allegiance - were you not aware of his "direct cousin" the BNP Mayor? Everything he and you have been accusing others of - turns out you are guilty of. Bhondami was it!?

Everyone else is straight about their outlook on elections - except you 2 party shills.

And to your idiotic point - what does it matter whether Zia or sheikh was a better administrator ?? The fact youre trying to score points for BNP with that says everything about your neutrality.

Still dining off 50 year old 'inspirations' - when the choice is between the current administration and the previous one. The records of BNP - khaleda and Tarek Vs Hasina are there to see.

 

[Indos]

Unfortunately, majority of the BD population are still too delusional to be able to assess current options and determine what is best for them in the long term.

Your idea of a technocratic government is a good one.
We need such a power to take over before Hasina retires.
Unfortunately, until such a power rises, the least chaotic option is to tolerate BAL.

Dont need to make baseless assumption in order to uphold current regime

BD has universities that can make simulation over possible Presidential election. Rather than preserving baseless assumption, better make survey on BD population and see who will come up as the favorite leader.

India is also democratic and so far their development is quite good.

 

[VikingRaider]

Your idea of a technocratic government is a good one.
We need such a power to take over before Hasina retires.
Unfortunately, until such a power rises, the least chaotic option is to tolerate BAL.

Bhai @Destranator , few people believe that Hasina wants honorable exit ( or retirement) , do you remember what Hasina said after 2018 farcical election?

Perhaps you would like to review it! The news is about the reaction on one of her lackeys' !

Here is the news !

But why she is still silent? I believe that it's hard for her to declare directly! Her lackeys are extremely corrupted , also Bangladesh is actually under the rule of bureaucrat and police, as they are the key people who arrenged the farcical election in 2018 !

I still feel that Hasina wasn't fully aware of the rigging! Yes she will rig election for sure ,but she isn't a fool who will give BNP only 6 seats!

So now I'm afraid that if she directly declare her retirement , she will be in trouble by these people!

I observed that many intellectuals also think Hasina should have a safe exit , but they can't speak it directly because of fear of people.

If you watch two recent talk shows of colonel oli Ahmed ( one with Kanak sarwar , and the other with Hasina akhtar of Table talk UK ) , also talked about her safe exit , later slightly changed his tone due to public reaction!

Dr Jafrullah and even Mirza fakhrul ( recently before arrest) also suggested Hasina for safe exit!

That mean not only BNP sided intellectuals , but even BNP general secretary want the same!

So why she is still silent? I don't think she is so greedy ( although not a firishta as well ) , she just failed to manage proper way to exit!

So yes a chaos ( by BNP or other party ) and then military takeover ( like 1/11 ) and then handover the power to a technocrat , can give her a safe exit!

( Already head of the technocrat is proposed by Dr Jafrullah long ago and it's Dr Younus, and recently VP Nur also said so )

It's the only way for her safe exit I think. And I think Bangladesh is going to the path soon!

A technocrat govt is still not democracy , but at least non political , hence no chance of family dynasty!

So yes it can be the cool down period.

Later if any atmosphere of democracy created that's fine. If not then such national unity Govt can be continued with all party representatives included in the Govt !

So such national unity govt can continue forever , like after Younus we can find another one.

And since no other people in our family dynasty even dare to think of becoming PM even in their dream , so I don't think that it will be any issue for other party folks!

 

[EasyNow]

My choice is the one where there is rule of law and respect for property rights, I am sure you agree with me even as an AL fanboy on those criteria as these are the essential ingredients for building a nation.

Something we do not have an iota worth.

There are only 2 main sides in BD elections - is there any point arguing over make-believe alternatives?

The actual choice is binary - BNP or AL - neither are perfect and neither fulfil your criteria. Unless you believe BNP will respect rule of law and property rights.

Like most neutrals you will have to decide which devil is better.

 

[VikingRaider]

Dont need to make baseless assumption in order to uphold current regime

Unfortunately his claim isn't completely baseless! But also there is no way now to defend the current BAL dynastic regime.

So yes a national unity govt is the solution , at least as cool down period of 3/4 hours!

By this time we can rewrite our constitution , or at least can make a major amendment like 1991 and can revive presidential form of democracy!

But before cool down , if you arrange and election even under caretaker govt , still BAL wins the election , as because the state machinery is completely under control of BAL.

So a traditional caretaker govt can't solve the problem under 3 months!

So in order to create atmosphere of a free and fair election , at least a technocrat for 3/4 years at least is necessary!

@Indos