Bangladesh is way ahead of India: Amartya Sen

[LaBong]

^Yes and Keralites immigrate all around the world for want of better job.

 

[DelhiDareDevil]

Well done Bangladesh

 

[pmukherjee]

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I dont agree on this except when the case is voluntary......

If it is voluntary, no one will go to the villages. Let them go to the villages first and really honor the oath of serving mankind which they all take. They can come to the cities to earn wealth later.

 

[desioptimist]

NO NO NO!
You missed my point,i said the GDP per capita income,which shows the average income of a person in that country,Bangladesh,i said was still very very low at 600 USD

GDP per capita is not the only parameter to judge quality of life. We are discussing about other parameters in which Bangladesh is ahead of us. We need to learn from them.

 

[Wounded-Monk]

If it is voluntary, no one will go to the villages. Let them go to the villages first and really honor the oath of serving mankind which they all take. They can come to the cities to earn wealth later.

Too much asumptions I guess......Serving mankind is a big word actually....speecially in country like ours who does not respect their soldiers and neither doctors.....trust me serving mankind is the last thing in many docs mind these days......call it bad but that the way it is......This is what one of my friend had opined earlier......Why I want to serve thankless people,, ever ready to find my mistakes,, never to say thanks if I cure them,, coz thats my duty and I am being paid for it.......

Medicine is far too commercialised now to expect such unrealistic ideas from young doctors....I for one strongly condemn such moves....specially for those meritorious students who spend decades to learn medicine.....if u wanna send then send those from reserved categories.....for every second doctor has some reservations.......I hope u will get plenty of them......but for God sake spare the meritorious students.....and allow them to choose what they like to do with their carreer......

 

[Wounded-Monk]

It should be made compulsory to work a fixed period of time in rural areas for the doctors whose studies were subsidised by govt. They should be made to agree to this condition beforehand. For those who paid for themselves, it is upto them.

Dude govt does susidise for medicine only....they do for other institutes like IITs etc they happily go US......and they dont go rural service do they.....I am not against rural service but against enforced rural service......if at all enforce it on reserved classes for they have achieed the degree cheaply....

 

[Wounded-Monk]

I think for the case of Bangladesh if they join in the government job....they initially are posted in a thana or upazilla level... for a certain period of time... then they are posted in cities..

What do they do for security of female docs and specially against quacks coz in our case it's pretty bad and pose danger for safety of docs themselves....these quacks dont want anyone to come in their area of practice.....

 

[Wounded-Monk]

Any sub-continent govt spends a few million Rupees to bring out an MBBS doctor. The money govt spends come out of the pockets of very poors of the country. So, it is imperative that these know-nothing new graduate doctors take care of our rural population for a few years under compulsion, if needed.

On the other hand, if a new graduate does not want to work for the people, his/her parents must pay back the money the country has spent to educate him/her. And these doctors should not be allowed to work in any govt job. There was a time when doctors thought themselves as the saviors of humanity in their respective countries, specially in the sub-continent.

A fresh graduate is only good for working under guidence of seniors not among rude villagers....for second point dude medicine has always been cut throat competition....people always try to be on the top and that does not comes through social service but through intense intra-competition and I assure you money is not important at young age......though u do make a decent money in the process......such things as you mentioned above (in bold) are only done by people after their retirement when hopefully most of them have no responsibilities any more.....definately not from young docs......it is immature and naive to do so and impractical to expect so......

Now, these people do not think they belong any more to a backward and poor society. Their snob minds now try to curve out a place among the rich by manupulating their healing power. They go after money. It is ok a few years after the graduation. But, they must pay back to the country what its poors have given to them. Working among the rural population is one such way.

While society thinks that they are giving some special status and hence owe an obligation......docs thinks they are brightest of them.....again money is not a very important primary factor; fame and the desire to be on the top is......and yeah parents expectations also become a top priority.....

And I agree that rural service is one of the way other way be going US to do some research......and hence serve the whole mankind.....and also send some money to your country back home......

 

[Wounded-Monk]

What I want to say is that let the doc decide.....he/she is in a better position to do that....

 

[Hulk]

Given that they got freedom in 1971, they are really doing well. I wish they become a strong and mature nation.

 

[fallstuff]

What I want to say is that let the doc decide.....he/she is in a better position to do that....

If you ever applied for federal student loan there are questions you have to answer about "Selective Services", essentially that is when you are 18 yrs old you as a male you make yourself available for military draft. If you never signed up, you may find it difficult to obtain fed loan.

 

[ashok321]

This thread is misleading and should be closed after this factual post...

http://www.prosperity.com/ChartAxd....g&_guid_=50c1d104-036b-4376-ada2-7ec7cd57302b

India is Blue...
BD is beige colour...

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Bangladesh is heading towards what is called kerala model!!!!!and its really dangerous for the economy!!!

More precisely, the Kerala model has been defined as:

* A set of high material quality-of-life indicators coinciding with low per-capita incomes, both distributed across nearly the entire population of Kerala.
* A set of wealth and resource redistribution programmes that have largely brought about the high material quality-of-life indicators.
* High levels of political participation and activism among ordinary people along with substantial numbers of dedicated leaders at all levels. Kerala's mass activism and committed cadre were able to function within a largely democratic structure, which their activism has served to reinforce.



British Green activist Richard Douthwaite interviewed a person who remembers once saying that "in some societies, very high levels — virtually First World levels — of individual and public health and welfare are achieved at as little as sixtieth of US nominal GDP per capita and used Kerala as an example".[20]:310–312 Richard Douthwaite states that Kerala "is far more sustainable than anywhere in Europe or North America".[21]Kerala's unusual socioeconomic and demographic situation was summarized by author and environmentalist Bill McKibben:[22]

Kerala, a state in India, is a bizarre anomaly among developing nations, a place that offers real hope for the future of the Third World. Though not much larger than Maryland, Kerala has a population as big as California's and a per capita annual income of less than $300. But its infant mortality rate is very low, its literacy rate among the highest on Earth, and its birthrate below America's and falling faster. Kerala's residents live nearly as long as Americans or Europeans. Though mostly a land of paddy-covered plains, statistically Kerala stands out as the Mount Everest of social development; there's truly no place like it.

Yes, you make good points here. In social reforms I think Kerala is a head then most parts of India, but economically its poor. Bangladesh needs both, not just changes in it's society.

 

[Wounded-Monk]

If you ever applied for federal student loan there are questions you have to answer about "Selective Services", essentially that is when you are 18 yrs old you as a male you make yourself available for military draft. If you never signed up, you may find it difficult to obtain fed loan.

Fortunately I do not need to go US for Surgery anymore....I am gonna do it in my own country now....

 

[eastwatch]

NO NO NO!
You missed my point,i said the GDP per capita income,which shows the average income of a person in that country,Bangladesh,i said was still very very low at 600 USD

I think you are almost to the point about Bangladesh per capita GDP.　But, GDP is a function of many industrial activities whereby more and more values are added to the original cost of a raw material. Let us cite the example of a modern vehicle, say a 1300 cc car of any make. Let us assume the weight of the car is 1.1 ton and the weight of its steel is just 1 ton.

The cost of a ton of iron ore is somewhere between $50 and $100. A ton of steel ingot may be somewhere in between $400 to $500. This price is higher than the price of iron ore is because many more amount of values have been added to the basic cost of iron ore. Now, this ingot is again heated to produce steel sheets or is melted to make a heavy engine. Many thousand other body parts are also produced with the same or different grade of steel, and finally a car is assembled.

The thing is every additional activity that I have described above raises the value. When a 1 ton car is fanally built, its cost becomes, say, $10,000 to $15,000. It means the value of a car is about 150 times more than the value of the basic cost of iron ore. Again, when this valuable car is crushed due to old age, its value again is reduced to $200 to $300.

In case of India or also Pakistan their economy has reached a stage whereby they are capable to produce many value added goods than BD can produce. This is why there is a difference of per capita GDP is much lower in BD than it is in Pakistan or in India.

An economy is like a machine in the factory. If all the parts do not work together it does not function. In case of BD, it is taking time to come out strong with a better per capita GDP. It is because whatever monetary capital we have formed have been stolen by a far away island country and by a country we shared our history for 22 years.

Only in recent years we have been able to produce goods that we have not consumed ourselves, but have exported overseas. So, this is how only recently we have accumulated the monetary capital.

Our educated population is another of those engine parts. Educated population are more at ease with a new product or a new type of society, less in fundamentalism jargon and more in substance. So, wait for a few more years, you will see our industrial expansions increasing our per capita GDP, hopefully. We are still in the preparatory stage.