Bangladesh in uproar over Vijay Diwas tweets

[livingdead]

I think most of the Indians don't know anything about how bravely Bangladeshis fought for liberation. You glorify your soldiers but never gave tiniest credit to the freedom fighters of Bangladesh. I agree 100% that it was also Indo-Pak war but the main war was fought between West Pakistan and East Pakistan (Bangladesh). Just give credit to Bangladeshis while celebrating Vijay Diwas. Nobody will have problem with it. Just say Pakistan surrendered to Indian and Bangladeshi joint forces.

why would BJP give credit to muktis in an tweet. They are not historians.. they dont have to look for accuracy in 140 letter sentese.. they are simply celebrating Indian victory. It does not negate role of bangladeshis.
this is getting annoying.

 

[Areesh]

There is nothing for uproar here. It is a fact that it is because of IA and IAF that BD is a separate country, Hundreds and hundreds of Indian soldiers and officers died to make BD a reality. Or else Mukti Bahini terrorists could have fought next 100 years and nothing would have changed.

Take example of BLA terrorists. Poor b@stards with money and support from India and Afghanistan tried their best but couldn't even free an inch of Balochistan. A paramilitary like FC balochistan massacred them and put them in their real place and today BLA terrorists are surrendering in groups.

So this Vijay Diwas thing is all logical and BD people should have no problem to be angry over it.

 

[livingdead]

There is nothing for uproar here. It is a fact that it is because of IA and IAF that BD is a separate country, Hundreds and hundreds of Indian soldiers and officers died to make BD a reality. Or else Mukti Bahini terrorists could have fought next 100 years and nothing would have changed.

Take example of BLA terrorists. Poor b@stards with money and support from India and Afghanistan tried their best but couldn't even free an inch of Balochistan. A paramilitary like FC balochistan massacred them and put them in their real place and today BLA terrorists are surrendering in groups.

So this Vijay Diwas thing is all logical and BD people should have no problem to be angry over it.

mukti vahini made huge contribution and it will be stupid to say India won the war on its own. I dont think people deny that, but the occasion is celebration of our victory.
Those tweet do not negate mukti role, rather emphasize our role, am sure in bd, its the other way @MBI Munshi @Riyad

 

[Areesh]

mukti vahini made huge contribution and it will be stupid to say India won the war on its own. I dont think people deny that, but the occasion is celebration of our victory.
Those tweet do not negate mukti role, rather emphasize our role, am sure in bd, its the other way @MBI Munshi @Riyad

Well even BLA, TTP etc have also fought and lost. In fact tried much harder than Mukiti Bahini terrorists and got massacred by Pakistan. Without Indian soldiers, mukti bahini could have fought next 100 years and nothing would have changed. We had enough biharis and patriotic bengalis to keep things in control on political front too.

It is because of Indian army. Rejoice the victory.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I think most of the Indians don't know anything about how bravely Bangladeshis fought for liberation. You glorify your soldiers but never gave tiniest credit to the freedom fighters of Bangladesh. I agree 100% that it was also Indo-Pak war but the main war was fought between West Pakistan and East Pakistan (Bangladesh). Just give credit to Bangladeshis while celebrating Vijay Diwas. Nobody will have problem with it. Just say Pakistan surrendered to Indian and Bangladeshi joint forces.

And that is the correct position.

It was a indo-pak war that india won and muslims lost. BJP is stating facts on the face of gullible bangladeshis whose mind is stuck on a indo-awami created bubble.

What a bigoted way of putting it!

 

[livingdead]

Well even BLA, TTP etc have also fought and lost. In fact tried much harder than Mukiti Bahini terrorists and got massacred by Pakistan. Without Indian soldiers, mukti bahini could have fought next 100 years and nothing would have changed. We had enough biharis and patriotic bengalis to keep things in control on political front too.

It is because of Indian army. Rejoice the victory.

I am not saying muktis would have own the war on their own. I am simply stating their contribution. east pakistan was also quite far from west pakistan(balochistan is right there), so muktis enjoyed some advantage.

without them, 71 would have been another stalemate. PA would not have surrendered in east.

 

[Areesh]

I am not saying muktis would have own the war on their own. I am simply stating their contribution. east pakistan was also quite far from west pakistan(balochistan is right there), so muktis enjoyed some advantage.

without them, 71 would have been another stalemate. PA would not have surrendered in east.

Mukiti Bahini role was supporting. They were supporting actors. The real actor was Indian military.

 

[livingdead]

Mukiti Bahini role was supporting. They were supporting actors. The real actor was Indian military.

in the eastern front they were main actors for quite long.. of course in grand scheme, they were supporting actors. They played decisive role, remove muktis and you got another 65. Infact it would have been tough to get russian backing and americans would have forced a stalemate.

 

[Areesh]

in the eastern front they were main actors for quite long.. of course in grand scheme, they were supporting actors. They played decisive role, remove muktis and you got another 65. Infact it would have been tough to get russian backing and americans would have forced a stalemate.

They had a role. Supporting role. No they didn't play decisive role. Decisive role was of Indian army's eastern command and 11 squadrons of IAF that were attacking East Pakistan.

You are unnecessarily trying hard to sugar coat the events for Mukiti Bahini lovers in BD.

 

[Indian_Devil]

Not going to learn Bangla just to read a thread, very ardent tweets by the way, ... Proud ...

 

[Joe Shearer]

They had a role. Supporting role. No they didn't play decisive role. Decisive role was of Indian army's eastern command and 11 squadrons of IAF that were attacking East Pakistan.

You are unnecessarily trying hard to sugar coat the events for Mukiti Bahini lovers in BD.

Not so.

It would have been impossible to win the victory as it was won without the active cooperation and support of the Mukti Bahini. They were never able to stand up to regular troops, but made life very difficult for the regulars, and allowed the Indian Army a huge amount of freedom of manoeuvre. Intelligence was, of course, superb, and uniformly of very high quality.

I agree that they could not have won it on their own. I also agree that the IAF (you forgot the Navy) had key roles to play. But the actions of the MB were a huge help.

 

[livingdead]

They had a role. Supporting role. No they didn't play decisive role. Decisive role was of Indian army's eastern command and 11 squadrons of IAF that were attacking East Pakistan.

You are unnecessarily trying hard to sugar coat the events for Mukiti Bahini lovers in BD.

am not sugarcoating, its how you look at it... nobody in their right mind would say muktis would have got independence on their own by defeating PA.
anyway, we are just splitting hair.

 

[Areesh]

Not so.

It would have been impossible to win the victory as it was won without the active cooperation and support of the Mukti Bahini. They were never able to stand up to regular troops, but made life very difficult for the regulars, and allowed the Indian Army a huge amount of freedom of manoeuvre. Intelligence was, of course, superb, and uniformly of very high quality.

I agree that they could not have won it on their own. I also agree that the IAF (you forgot the Navy) had key roles to play. But the actions of the MB were a huge help.

I never rejected their supporting role. They were supporting actor in the movie. And they played their supporting role very well. B@stards got lucky. Since they were lucky unlike BLA and TTP that main actor (Indian military) was there to save their as$.

Poor BLA and TTP wasn't that lucky.

am not sugarcoating, its how you look at it... nobody in their right mind would say muktis would have got independence on their own by defeating PA.
anyway, we are just splitting hair.

You are trying to sugar coat the reality for MB lovers. Everyone knows without Indian army what would have happened to them.

 

[sharma1111]

Bangladesh Song by George Harrison

Bangladesh came at cost of Millions of bengalis lives lost and brutal rape of 300,000 women. Contribution of mukti bahini was paramount in bangladesh independence movement. Role of India was limited but swift. Pak had no chance

 

[Sugarcane]

It is funny when you say it like that. Not just funny, but it shows lack of depth too.

It is the Bengalis of East Pakistan, whose support created Pakistan. Otherwise it was simply not possible.

It may sound very weird to you, owing to years of brainwashing that you have gone through, but there was little popular support for creation of Pakistan, among the common masses of Punjab or Sind or NWFP. Most of the people in fact, did not even know what was happening.

Just to give you and idea, in the 1937 general elections, Muslim League was outvoted 1:7 (That's when Jinnah got spited and became more keen on registering a victory over his adversary than fulfilling the goal).
Muslim League could not get more than even 1 seat in Punjab (1:18), none in Sind(7 went to Congress), and wiped out in NWFP, where 19 seats went to Congress and the remaining 7 went to HIndu-Sikh Nationalists.

It was only Bengal where Muslim League could register a decent number of seats (54:37). It is the support from Bengal that created Pakistan for you. How easily they obscure these chapters for you there.

And then, it was Bengal that got the boot the first time independent Pakistan had a chance of general election. Ironic, isn't it ? Or is it poetic justice ?

You are stating some facts but drawing conclusion as per your wish. It's true that struggle started from east and had no support in west. But the Indians and Bangladeshis who chant that line never try to understand why it was so. ML flopped in western frontier because their agenda i.e. More rights for Muslims and reservations in jobs etc. were not of interest for people here as they being majority in western states were already leading state governments, were not being discriminated for civil jobs and had significant presence in military. Their problems were totally different and parties who won here focused on those issue. People of western province supported only when ML played "Muslim Homeland" card in response to arrogant attitude of congress leaders. And ML was accepted as representative of all Indian Muslims only when Muslims of western province voted for it, otherwise it would have remain regional party. So, without western provinces support Pakistan was impossible not the other way, and people here started their struggle from Pakistan cause while in Bangladesh they started from Quota and ended up with Pakistan.