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That's veeryy late!
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That's veeryy late!
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That was an old post published in BD Military first. You,Me,
Homosapians or somebody else shared it here too. Lets not talk about this further as it may start another argument here and some trolls will find it amusing.
I am not allowed to talk about it
"কিছু বললে চাকরি থাকবে না!!"
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Now for something fun, an ultralight, air transportable, ultra maneuverable armored platform.
Yagu – An Ultralight Special Ops Armored Vehicle
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Tamir Eshel
Apr 24, 2018
The air-transportable Yagu is positioned to meet the needs of special operations, border patrols, urban warfare as well as special missions in crime-fighting, where light and agile platforms are required. According to Plasan, Yagu provides such high protection level at an exceptionally low weight. As its outdoors sibbling, Yagu can move on rocky and muddy terrain, on sand dunes and in forest environments, climbing extreme sloping roads. In urban scenes Yagu’s compact size comes handy, as it is able to move through narrow passages (its width is merely 162 cm), crossing jammed or blocked roads on sidewalks and stairss.
One of the Yagu advantages is the use General Robotics Pitbull – an ultralight remotely operated weapon station,integrating hostile fire and anti-drone, ‘point and shoot’, and remote control functions. Photo: Plasan
Plasan’s new Yagu ultralight Armored Vehicle has all around protection, including belly and roof protection, providing effective protection in an urban environment and counter IED. The wheels use larger tires, compared to the light civilian version of the Wildcat. Approach and departure angles are exceptionally high, enabling the driver to negotiate steep obstacles. The belly is extremely low, adding to the vehicle’s road stability but with adverse off-road and blast countering effects. Given Plasan’s excellent knowhow in this field, Yagu is likely to have other blast protection measures to protect the crew. Photo: Plasan
Even with full armor, three fully equipped troops and 350 kg payload (a gross vehicle weight of more than five tons!), Yagu maintains a power/weight ratio in excess of 53 HP/Ton, thus maintaining much of the agility and mobility of the Wildcat. The platform retains the original 1000 H2 V- Twin, S0HC 4 – stroke, 4 – valve w/EFI 951cc engine with electronic fuel injection, coupled to an automatic transmission with HI/LO gear, 2 or 4 wheel drive and the long-travel front and rear suspension used in the original Wildcat. To support the added weight and improve mobility, Yagu uses bigger tires (28 X 10r14 instead of the civilian version’s 26x9R14 and 26x11R14).
In addition to the powerful 95HP engine Yagu also has an independent power generator and integral air condition systems, maintaining continuous electrical power for the mission systems and comfortable climate inside the protected crew capsule. Photo: Plasan.
Yagu – An Ultralight Special Ops Armored Vehicle
By
Tamir Eshel
Apr 24, 2018
The air-transportable Yagu is positioned to meet the needs of special operations, border patrols, urban warfare as well as special missions in crime-fighting, where light and agile platforms are required. According to Plasan, Yagu provides such high protection level at an exceptionally low weight. As its outdoors sibbling, Yagu can move on rocky and muddy terrain, on sand dunes and in forest environments, climbing extreme sloping roads. In urban scenes Yagu’s compact size comes handy, as it is able to move through narrow passages (its width is merely 162 cm), crossing jammed or blocked roads on sidewalks and stairss.
One of the Yagu advantages is the use General Robotics Pitbull – an ultralight remotely operated weapon station,integrating hostile fire and anti-drone, ‘point and shoot’, and remote control functions. Photo: Plasan
Plasan’s new Yagu ultralight Armored Vehicle has all around protection, including belly and roof protection, providing effective protection in an urban environment and counter IED. The wheels use larger tires, compared to the light civilian version of the Wildcat. Approach and departure angles are exceptionally high, enabling the driver to negotiate steep obstacles. The belly is extremely low, adding to the vehicle’s road stability but with adverse off-road and blast countering effects. Given Plasan’s excellent knowhow in this field, Yagu is likely to have other blast protection measures to protect the crew. Photo: Plasan
Even with full armor, three fully equipped troops and 350 kg payload (a gross vehicle weight of more than five tons!), Yagu maintains a power/weight ratio in excess of 53 HP/Ton, thus maintaining much of the agility and mobility of the Wildcat. The platform retains the original 1000 H2 V- Twin, S0HC 4 – stroke, 4 – valve w/EFI 951cc engine with electronic fuel injection, coupled to an automatic transmission with HI/LO gear, 2 or 4 wheel drive and the long-travel front and rear suspension used in the original Wildcat. To support the added weight and improve mobility, Yagu uses bigger tires (28 X 10r14 instead of the civilian version’s 26x9R14 and 26x11R14).
In addition to the powerful 95HP engine Yagu also has an independent power generator and integral air condition systems, maintaining continuous electrical power for the mission systems and comfortable climate inside the protected crew capsule. Photo: Plasan.
Batmobile.
ps: not a big fan of special effects. war is too raw to look like hollywood movies
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This was developed in Israel probably to counter Hamas unorganized terrorist elements. Every country has a need for this type of recon/light armored vehicle since all countries have belligerent rogue elements, no matter which side of the political spectrum you support.
How else would you provide the advanced performance needed for Special Reconnaissance, Counterinsurgency Operations, Long Range Surveillance, Site Seizure and Direct Combat? The platform in the case above was made for insertion and is air transportable and super maneuverable.
Started with the Renault Light recon tankette back in WWI, Renault FT-17,
And has evolved to wheeled Infantry Mobility Vehicles nowadays, such as the OshKosh M-ATV. We can easily modify existing commercial SUV's - strip them, add armor and modify with extremely pliable all terrain suspension. Voila, Otokar Cobra!
I don't know why we have to go overseas and fork over precious dollars to buy these things. Can be our first armor project and talent/expertise exists locally to make them.
Here is the M-ATV, which I understand is based on a heavily modified small Chevy SUV.
The suspension system has been heavily modified (you can buy this suspension system off the shelf from auto parts dealers locally here, a vehicle called a sand-rail uses these) which is proven to maximize mobility over rugged off-road terrain. The lightweight configuration was specifically designed to allow both external and internal helicopter transportability, meaning force insertion into rugged territory (think Chittagong Hill tracts).
The S-ATV features plug and play C4I capacity, integrated ready mounts for a multitude of armaments and ballistic and blast protection upgrades – which is modular, rapidly reconfigurable and extremely capable platform.
These are hallmarks of a smaller MRAP compliant mobility vehicle. You can't take cargo truck based MRAP platforms everywhere. The majority of terrain in our country does not resemble that of Afghanistan. too much water to operate 15 ton vehicles.
How else would you provide the advanced performance needed for Special Reconnaissance, Counterinsurgency Operations, Long Range Surveillance, Site Seizure and Direct Combat? The platform in the case above was made for insertion and is air transportable and super maneuverable.
Started with the Renault Light recon tankette back in WWI, Renault FT-17,
And has evolved to wheeled Infantry Mobility Vehicles nowadays, such as the OshKosh M-ATV. We can easily modify existing commercial SUV's - strip them, add armor and modify with extremely pliable all terrain suspension. Voila, Otokar Cobra!
I don't know why we have to go overseas and fork over precious dollars to buy these things. Can be our first armor project and talent/expertise exists locally to make them.
Here is the M-ATV, which I understand is based on a heavily modified small Chevy SUV.
The suspension system has been heavily modified (you can buy this suspension system off the shelf from auto parts dealers locally here, a vehicle called a sand-rail uses these) which is proven to maximize mobility over rugged off-road terrain. The lightweight configuration was specifically designed to allow both external and internal helicopter transportability, meaning force insertion into rugged territory (think Chittagong Hill tracts).
The S-ATV features plug and play C4I capacity, integrated ready mounts for a multitude of armaments and ballistic and blast protection upgrades – which is modular, rapidly reconfigurable and extremely capable platform.
These are hallmarks of a smaller MRAP compliant mobility vehicle. You can't take cargo truck based MRAP platforms everywhere. The majority of terrain in our country does not resemble that of Afghanistan. too much water to operate 15 ton vehicles.
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Heavy MRAPs actually failed in Afghanistan and in FATA,Pakistan...This was developed in Israel probably to counter Hamas unorganized terrorist elements. Every country has a need for this type of recon/light armored vehicle since all countries have belligerent rogue elements, no matter which side of the political spectrum you support.
How else would you provide the advanced performance needed for Special Reconnaissance, Counterinsurgency Operations, Long Range Surveillance, Site Seizure and Direct Combat? The platform in the case above was made for insertion and is air transportable and super maneuverable.
Started with the Renault Light recon tankette back in WWI, Renault FT-17,
And has evolved to wheeled Infantry Mobility Vehicles nowadays, such as the OshKosh M-ATV. We can easily modify existing commercial SUV's - strip them, add armor and modify with extremely pliable all terrain suspension. Voila, Otokar Cobra!
I don't know why we have to go overseas and fork over precious dollars to buy these things. Can be our first armor project and talent/expertise exists locally to make them.
Here is the M-ATV, which I understand is based on a heavily modified small Chevy SUV.
The suspension system has been heavily modified (you can buy this suspension system off the shelf from auto parts dealers locally here, a vehicle called a sand-rail uses these) which is proven to maximize mobility over rugged off-road terrain. The lightweight configuration was specifically designed to allow both external and internal helicopter transportability, meaning force insertion into rugged territory (think Chittagong Hill tracts).
The S-ATV features plug and play C4I capacity, integrated ready mounts for a multitude of armaments and ballistic and blast protection upgrades – which is modular, rapidly reconfigurable and extremely capable platform.
These are hallmarks of a smaller MRAP compliant mobility vehicle. You can't take cargo truck based MRAP platforms everywhere. The majority of terrain in our country does not resemble that of Afghanistan. too much water to operate 15 ton vehicles.
They get stuck off-road and have to be pulled out by recovery vehicles.. atleast according to Pak Army’s experience.
That’s why you keep seeing light armoured vehicles popping up for NATO & PA..
Till mid late 2000s ... Pak used to import blank guns from France for AK & AZ... which were costly.You'd need specialized grades of steel for defense usage, especially tanks and howitzer gun barrels. Usually countries like us starting out can use heavy bore preform steel tubes, which can be rotary forged (then machined to spec) as shown in the second Watervliet video above. This reduces vertical integration somewhat, but saves processing time. For making say 500 or so tanks (i.e. barrels for them), you don't need to go all the way back to blast-furnace-level of integration. Sourcing quality ready-made preform steel tubes from a company like Aubert & Duval (UK) is fine. You can see below in the following brochure and video on what is needed.
https://www.aubertduval.com/wp-media/uploads/2017/05/Defense_Brochure_Aubert_Duval_GB.pdf
This is what Indians are doing for their AEQUS facility at Belgavi in Karnataka which does forging and machining work in steel, aluminium and alloys for defense and aerospace applications.
https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x3bc09998898cb31f:0xc189b2c710c82266!2m22!2m2!1i80!2i80!3m1!2i20!16m16!1b1!2m2!1m1!1e1!2m2!1m1!1e3!2m2!1m1!1e5!2m2!1m1!1e4!2m2!1m1!1e6!3m1!7e115!4shttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipM0t6e8-tx1YwMCBZCB1XKdAimFiteNOvEukNIF=w213-h160-k-no!5saequs+-+Google+Search&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipM0t6e8-tx1YwMCBZCB1XKdAimFiteNOvEukNIF&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiPxajk6uzaAhUJ_IMKHd5yDZUQoioIkQEwCg
Some videosfrom AEQUS in India (steel-forging facility like this can be quite easily duplicated in Bangladesh given there is demand for the output of the facility from defense). Maybe a Pakistan Army expert (@waz ?) can kindly confirm if HIT does similar gun barrel forgings.
AEQUS also has a joint venture with Aubert & Duval called SQUAD.
10,000 ton hot-forging closed-die presses like above can be sourced from China (Tianduan Corp.) or better, from Italy (Hydromec). Here's a video on how they build these spectacular things and how forged gun tubes are produced.
Than they started making their own... the 125mms on AK & AZ today are Pakistani made:
https://www.dawn.com/news/621771
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ISLAMABAD, April 17: The first locally-produced tank gun is ready for delivery to the Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT) for Al-Khalid and Al-Zarar tanks.
So far the HIT used to get 125 millimetre 'blanks' from France for the two main battle tanks (MBTs) of the Pakistan Army. Blanks are the final shape of the gun barrel prior to its finishing and its fitting into the tank is done at the HIT.
The first blank has been jointlyi produced at the Heavy Mechanical Complex (HMC) in Taxila by experts of the HIT, the Peoples Steel Mills Limited (PSML) of Karachi and other defence-related organisations, in coordination with the army -- the end-user.
An HIT official told Dawn that the army had given a go-ahead for the production of 50 125mm barrels for the two MBTs at the HMC after a joint team assured it of meeting strict standards.
According to sources, the army and the HIT wanted the barrels to fire at least eight rounds a minute, and for the automatic ammunition handling system, with 24-round ready-to-fire magazine of Al-Khalid tank.
The official said that the manufacturing of the first 125mm tank gun was an achievement of the Strategic Plans Division (SPD) set up in 2000 to improve the control of nuclear operations and monitor and develop coordination among various defence production and research organisations in the country.
The specialised weapons grade steel was manufactured at the PSML and the block of metal was retreated at the HMC which has such facilities under the heavy forge and foundry section. The block of specialised metal is pressed to become a five-metre-long square bar that is forged into a smooth bore 125mm barrel.
The HMC also has specialised facilities of large vertical furnace where the blanks are given heat treatments several times. Since it was the first job for the HMC, experts from other defence organisations monitored the process which took almost two to three months to complete.
The HIT has finalised a deal Rs200 million for 50 barrels which is slightly less than the cost of each barrel procured from France.
The official said that after the completion of 50 tank barrels, the HMC would consider producing artillery guns for the Pakistan Army.
Al-Khalid is a product of a joint venture between Pakistan and China. It has been in use of the army since 2001. Al-Zarar is an upgradation of T-59 tanks. The new barrels are likely to be part of the project for upgraded variants of Al-Khalid II and III now under way at the HIT.
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True. You can get a lot more bang for the buck from light and medium sized MRAPs. They don't however hold up well against heavier weapons like RPGs.
Thanks for the tipoff. Great achievement by the way!
The French are obviously in this to milk it to all it's worth and it is good to become self-sufficient, even if the cost was going to be a tad higher.
Gun barrels for tanks and howitzers up to at least 125mm bore should be in the industrial capability list of almost every country the size of Bangladesh (and up). I doubt Bangladesh has this capability yet, but it has plans I'm sure and can make do with Pakistani and Chinese barrels in the interim if available.
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İf we go by the map, then it's wrong as Pakistan doesn't operate any CG.Looks like we are really buying these, look at the map.
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We both left home at 18,
You cleared university admission,
I cleared ISSB.
You got BUET,
I got BMA.
You persuaded your degree,
I had the toughest training.
Your day started at 7 and ended at 5,
Mine started at 4 till 9 and
Some nights also included.
You had your convocation ceremony,
I had my Passing Out Parade.
Best company took you and
Best package was awarded,
I was ordered to join my unit
With stars piped on my shoulders.
You got a job,
I got a way of life.
Every eve you got to see your family,
I just wished i got to see my parents soon.
You celebrated festivals with lights and music,
I celebrated with my comrade in bunkers.
We both married,
Your mom got to see you everyday,
My mom just wished i was Alive.
You were sent to business trips,
I was sent Front line.
We both returned,
Both mom and wife couldn't control their tears,
You wiped their tears, but..
I couldn't...
You hugged them, but..
I couldn't...
Because I was lying in the coffin,
With medals on my chest and,
Coffin wrapped with green and red flag
My way of life ended.
Your continued....
Remember, We both left home at 18
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Thanks to the brave sons of our Motherland...
We both left home at 18,
You cleared university admission,
I cleared ISSB.
You got BUET,
I got BMA.
You persuaded your degree,
I had the toughest training.
Your day started at 7 and ended at 5,
Mine started at 4 till 9 and
Some nights also included.
You had your convocation ceremony,
I had my Passing Out Parade.
Best company took you and
Best package was awarded,
I was ordered to join my unit
With stars piped on my shoulders.
You got a job,
I got a way of life.
Every eve you got to see your family,
I just wished i got to see my parents soon.
You celebrated festivals with lights and music,
I celebrated with my comrade in bunkers.
We both married,
Your mom got to see you everyday,
My mom just wished i was Alive.
You were sent to business trips,
I was sent Front line.
We both returned,
Both mom and wife couldn't control their tears,
You wiped their tears, but..
I couldn't...
You hugged them, but..
I couldn't...
Because I was lying in the coffin,
With medals on my chest and,
Coffin wrapped with green and red flag
My way of life ended.
Your continued....
Remember, We both left home at 18
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A member of the Bangladesh Army delegation stands in front of the Type A GMLRS. I will leave it up to members to decode the model of this GMLRS. Clue - it has a range of 280 km.
BDMILITARY.COM EXCLUSIVE PHOTO.
**Tender for long range GMLRS is already afloat.
BDMILITARY.COM EXCLUSIVE PHOTO.
**Tender for long range GMLRS is already afloat.
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