Bangladesh Army

[mb444]

Agreed.

But as no violation of our sovereign border occured Armed forces won't get involved.

But the slightest bit of violation will get an quick reaction. After border violation by Myanmar last August, Air force and Navy were deployed on the border. Army responded by transferring Main battle tanks in Ramu cantonment. Ramu cantonment has been kept on high alert since, any misadventure from the monkeys will recur an swift response.

I hope you are right but in my opinions BD military are full of cowards.... they Did not do anything when the Burmese flooded us with a million refugees ...., why would they do anything if the monkeys was to directly intrude in our territory.... what is left for the animals to do.... BD military is full of excuses.... they know how incompetent they are and there is no line that they won’t let our enemies cross.... pilkhana proved it.... rohingya debacle has removed any lingering doubt that BD military is anything but a drain on resources and a complete and utter waste of time.

 

[Michael Corleone]

I hope you are right but in my opinions BD military are full of cowards.... they Did not do anything when the Burmese flooded us with a million refugees ...., why would they do anything if the monkeys was to directly intrude in our territory.... what is left for the animals to do.... BD military is full of excuses.... they know how incompetent they are and there is no line that they won’t let our enemies cross.... pilkhana proved it.... rohingya debacle has removed any lingering doubt that BD military is anything but a drain on resources and a complete and utter waste of time.

You do understand that the military is heavily influenced by the govt now and has no autonomy right? The prime minister calls the shot, not the Chief if staff... which is why pilkhana murderers got away with whatever happened, which is why BSF gets away with killing people and which is why Burma gets away with pushing refugees. Hasina has done good things, including making military stronger, but no use of that if she’s not willing to use it when necessary.

 

[Bengal Tiger 71]

BD armed forces need to keep all types of sophisticated arms in the Ramu cantonment.They have to prepare all time. MBT, APC, FM 90, Howitzer etc.

 

[Beast]

VT4 and MBT 2000 has very little difference. Anyways tanks based on t72 chassis all have the same hazard which made t72 a poor performing tank... (t90s are also based on that chassis buyback the difference is that t90 has lengthened chassis)

VT-4 is not based on T-72. That is a lot of misconception about people unknown of the tank. It is a brand new concept that is far more advance. Just the chassis is enough to tell the different. The tank is driven in fully automatic transmission. An automatic car driver has no prOblem drive VT-4 straight. The network level and data sharing of VT-4 is far more than any previous generation of Chinese tank produced. UCAV and helo can feed info to this tank and allowed the know the enemy armour units ahead.

The tank hunter system is far superior even than western counter part. Standard hunter system, the captain spot the enemy and feed info to gunner. Gunner then search for the target and once located. He will proceed to shoot at commanders call. But the VT-4 tank hunter system can auto log on by captain once spotted on and gunner proceed to shoot without the need to search the target himself and waste few seconds of previous time.

 

[sazzad99]

VT-4 is not based on T-72. That is a lot of misconception about people unknown of the tank. It is a brand new concept that is far more advance. Just the chassis is enough to tell the different. The tank is driven in fully automatic transmission. An automatic car driver has no prOblem drive VT-4 straight. The network level and data sharing of VT-4 is far more than any previous generation of Chinese tank produced. UCAV and helo can feed info to this tank and allowed the know the enemy armour units ahead.

The tank hunter system is far superior even than western counter part. Standard hunter system, the captain spot the enemy and feed info to gunner. Gunner then search for the target and once located. He will proceed to shoot at commanders call. But the VT-4 tank hunter system can auto log on by captain once spotted on and gunner proceed to shoot without the need to search the target himself and waste few seconds of previous time.

Does the new ZTZ-99A2 (type 99 A2) tank uses a different chassis? if yes can u post pictures of it here?

 

[TopCat]

You do understand that the military is heavily influenced by the govt now and has no autonomy right? The prime minister calls the shot, not the Chief if staff... which is why pilkhana murderers got away with whatever happened, which is why BSF gets away with killing people and which is why Burma gets away with pushing refugees. Hasina has done good things, including making military stronger, but no use of that if she’s not willing to use it when necessary.

YOu do not attack unless you have an 3:1 advantage. Unless its a big no. Avoid the conflict.

 

[UKBengali]

YOu do not attack unless you have an 3:1 advantage. Unless its a big no. Avoid the conflict.

Who told you that?
As long as you are well equipped and well trained you can win.

 

[bluesky]

Who told you that?
As long as you are well equipped and well trained you can win.

@TopCat is correct. An offensive warfare requires an advantage of about 3:1 in military strength. It is not only the number of manpower that counts. It is also the equipment. When an adversary country attack us, it will be easy for us to defend with a limited strength.

 

[UKBengali]

@TopCat is correct. An offensive warfare requires an advantage of about 3:1 in military strength. It is not only the number of manpower that counts. It is also the equipment. When an adversary country attack us, it will be easy for us to defend with a limited strength.

Depends if limited objective or complete invasion.

 

[TopCat]

Depends if limited objective or complete invasion.

If you dont want to hold the territory then its ok. But to hold the territory then it will be a full scale war.

Who told you that?
As long as you are well equipped and well trained you can win.

I was talking about strength not numeric advantage.
We lack in every front to wage an offensive war.

 

[Zabaniyah]

VT4 and MBT 2000 has very little difference. Anyways tanks based on t72 chassis all have the same hazard which made t72 a poor performing tank... (t90s are also based on that chassis buyback the difference is that t90 has lengthened chassis)

I do not know how far the Chinese take that chassis. They take inspiration from Russian and Western tanks and basically try to mold them together. The Type-96 was a lower-profile turret while the MBT-2000 has a boxier one with better armor packages.

With the T-72, the auto-loader takes up a whole lot of space which is obviously a big hazard and claustrophobic. The absence of a separate blowout compartment in those vehicles is a hazard too. And no, the MBT-2000 doesn't have it. The Russians fixed that with the T-14 along with a revolutionary unmanned turret. I do not know about the Chinese though.

I hope you are right but in my opinions BD military are full of cowards.... they Did not do anything when the Burmese flooded us with a million refugees ...., why would they do anything if the monkeys was to directly intrude in our territory.... what is left for the animals to do.... BD military is full of excuses.... they know how incompetent they are and there is no line that they won’t let our enemies cross.... pilkhana proved it.... rohingya debacle has removed any lingering doubt that BD military is anything but a drain on resources and a complete and utter waste of time.

You do understand that the military is heavily influenced by the govt now and has no autonomy right? The prime minister calls the shot, not the Chief if staff... which is why pilkhana murderers got away with whatever happened, which is why BSF gets away with killing people and which is why Burma gets away with pushing refugees. Hasina has done good things, including making military stronger, but no use of that if she’s not willing to use it when necessary.

Who told you that?
As long as you are well equipped and well trained you can win.

You guys really need to study some stuff about war. Doctrine is important.

Bangladesh Army never had any offensive doctrine because it didn't need any in the first place. But now, we can agree that it is really needed. But for that to happen, it needs support, key changes, money and time. And yes, justice too even if we have to go to the ends of the earth.

We are a small country. The only way for us to have an advantage is having the high ground.

 

[Bilal9]

I do not know how far the Chinese take that chassis. They take inspiration from Russian and Western tanks and basically try to mold them together. The Type-96 was a lower-profile turret while the MBT-2000 has a boxier one with better armor packages.

With the T-72, the auto-loader takes up a whole lot of space which is obviously a big hazard and claustrophobic. The absence of a separate blowout compartment in those vehicles is a hazard too. And no, the MBT-2000 doesn't have it. The Russians fixed that with the T-14 along with a revolutionary unmanned turret. I do not know about the Chinese though.







You guys really need to study some stuff about war. Doctrine is important.

Bangladesh Army never had any offensive doctrine because it didn't need any in the first place. But now, we can agree that it is really needed. But for that to happen, it needs support, key changes, money and time. And yes, justice too even if we have to go to the ends of the earth.

We are a small country. The only way for us to have an advantage is having the high ground.

Most reasoned observation I've seen in this forum re: war doctrine in a while. Bravo!

 

[UKBengali]

If you dont want to hold the territory then its ok. But to hold the territory then it will be a full scale war.


I was talking about strength not numeric advantage.
We lack in every front to wage an offensive war.

Nope, as long as BAF has 1-2 squadrons of modern fighters soon, BD will have complete superiority in Arakan. Arakan is an infrantry engagement and the far better trained BD infantry will easily rout the sandal-wearing Barman army.
Once BD has captured Northern Arakan, a lot of Barman weaponry like tanks will be useless for a counterattack in the forests and mountains of the area.

 

[Avicenna]

Nope, as long as BAF has 1-2 squadrons of modern fighters soon, BD will have complete superiority in Arakan. Arakan is an infrantry engagement and the far better trained BD infantry will easily rout the sandal-wearing Barman army.
Once BD has captured Northern Arakan, a lot of Barman weaponry like tanks will be useless for a counterattack in the forests and mountains of the area.

Why do you consistently underestimate your adversary? AND overestimate yourself?

Thats the exact opposite of what you need to do.

 

[UKBengali]

Why do you consistently underestimate your adversary? AND overestimate yourself?

Thats the exact opposite of what you need to do.

You obviously have a different opinion. Does not mean that makes you right.
Wars are won by believing in yourself and not by overestimating the enemy. Read about WW2 where Germany easily beat the UK/French combined in 1940.
If we use logic here, how can a tiny 2 billion US dollar defence budget even remotely adequately train 400,000 soldiers and use competently the huge amounts of hardware that is always being purchased?
As long as BD sticks to Arakan and the BAF gets 1-2 new squadrons of fighters, then BD has a good chance of imposing a solution favourable against Myanmar.