Bangladesh Air Force received Yak-130 Aircraft from Russia.

[The Great One]

Comes down to money and political strings.

Russia offers easy financing and their platform comes with no strings attached. On top of that BAF has developed technical expertise to maintain Russian jets.

Grippen with associated costs and political stranglehold will constrain BAFs operational flexibility.

Does Bangladesh plan on doing any activity that will invite sanctions? If not, it shouldn't be a real problem operating a Swedish aircraft. Russian jets are useless against your primary threat as the primary threat has far more strings to pull with the Russian government, moreover it already operates the stated Russian equipment. Gripen is as cheap as they come and Sweden plans to replace old Gripens with Gripen E/F.

 

[Stannis Baratheon]

Why not Gripen. It is cheap, but more importantly built with a similar threat scenario as Bangladesh- facing a larger powerful enemy, in a country devoid of strategic depth. It can operate from highways and has very fast turn-around rates.

The Fly-Away cost of a Grippen (the low cost one) is equivalent to a US F-15 Silent Eagle. We can't afford that.

Dude J10 is not for sale to BAF. Pakistan will be the first to get it outside China. Delivery date unclear.

BAF with limited budget will never induct a plane without history. It may come sometime in future but for the time being expect BAF inventory to be Russian.

Migs and SU-27 would be a fantastic and potent fit for BAF.

We should go for Migs if we want to destroy our economy. Also, Su-27 isn't sold anymore, it's the Su-30MK2. The 2 engine jet with AL-31F engines are also high maintenance.

China has sold us corvette (Type-56) that are quite similar to the Chinese one and also F-22 frigate, both of which came later than the J-10. The J-10 has more history than those 2 types. Mig-29 themselves have poor combat history themselves and require high maintenance.

 

[BDforever]

The Fly-Away cost of a Grippen (the low cost one) is equivalent to a US F-15 Silent Eagle. We can't afford that.


We should go for Migs if we want to destroy our economy. Also, Su-27 isn't sold anymore, it's the Su-30MK2. The 2 engine jet with AL-31F engines are also high maintenance.

China has sold us corvette (Type-56) that are quite similar to the Chinese one and also F-22 frigate, both of which came later than the J-10. The J-10 has more history than those 2 types. Mig-29 themselves have poor combat history themselves and require high maintenance.

Talking about Mig 35, much cheap and cost effective and no Mig-29 does not have poor record, the one u r referring to. are downgraded versions.

 

[Stannis Baratheon]

Talking about Mig 35, much cheap and cost effective and no Mig-29 does not have poor record, the one u r referring to. are downgraded versions.

Mig-29's don't have any record of wins against planes of the same class that I know of. Mig-35's also have 2 engines, the
RD-33MK ones. Only benefit would be that we have training with our Air Force has training with the Migs.

Moreover we would require a loan for buying these and Russia don't have the ability (right now) to give use one.

 

[mb444]

The Fly-Away cost of a Grippen (the low cost one) is equivalent to a US F-15 Silent Eagle. We can't afford that.


We should go for Migs if we want to destroy our economy. Also, Su-27 isn't sold anymore, it's the Su-30MK2. The 2 engine jet with AL-31F engines are also high maintenance.

China has sold us corvette (Type-56) that are quite similar to the Chinese one and also F-22 frigate, both of which came later than the J-10. The J-10 has more history than those 2 types. Mig-29 themselves have poor combat history themselves and require high maintenance.

We can afford grippen. It was assessed and discarded by BAF. We simply do not have funds to set up many differing technical support infrastructure. BAF is seeking to reduce the types of aircraft in its inventory. It wants to increase overall numbers and operational efficiency by having one make and model of aircraft in each area.

Russian was chosen as we already have technical know how and setup.

 

[Stannis Baratheon]

We can afford grippen. It was assessed and discarded by BAF. We simply do not have funds to set up many differing technical support infrastructure. BAF is seeking to reduce the types of aircraft in its inventory. It wants to increase overall numbers and operational efficiency by having one make and model of aircraft in each area.

No, we can't. The cost of a Gripen is $110 million and this excludes training and maintenance. That's 3 times the cost of a Mig-35 and J-10B

 

[BDforever]

Mig-29's don't have any record of wins against planes of the same class that I know of. Mig-35's also have 2 engines, the
RD-33MK ones. Only benefit would be that we have training with our Air Force has training with the Migs.

Moreover we would require a loan for buying these and Russia don't have the ability (right now) to give use one.

MiG-35 Fulcrum-F Multirole Fighter - Airforce Technology
MiG-35/MiG-35D

 

[Arthur]

Does Bangladesh plan on doing any activity that will invite sanctions? If not, it shouldn't be a real problem operating a Swedish aircraft. Russian jets are useless against your primary threat as the primary threat has far more strings to pull with the Russian government, moreover it already operates the stated Russian equipment. Gripen is as cheap as they come and Sweden plans to replace old Gripens with Gripen E/F.

You have a good point their.But you have to consider some other thing too.

If BAF goes with Russian platforms,the supply and logistics lines will be more open.
Suppose if even the Russians cuts of supply of spare and support they can always opt to china,which is their primary weapon supplier and has good and well developed support services of their own,and not to mention they operated Russian planes for years. And there is available facility to maintain Russian platforms all over the world.Like BAF has recently refurbished MIG-29's with Ukrainian help.And there is countries who will be happy to go with Back door deals and a option in Black Market.

But for Gripen it's a different story.There is western tech involved and west will tie BAF down hard if the primary threats succeed in pulling that string with the west.And Sweden will not be as generous as the Russians on financial terms.

And there is the cost of induction and training.BAF have to buy new weapons and missiles,raise new infrastructure and train crew on the new platform,which will cost them $$$$.
For Russian or Chinese platforms BAF already has them in place,so it will be much cheap and cost effective to buy and induct them.

 

[mb444]

No, we can't. The cost of a Gripen is $110 million and this excludes training and maintenance. That's 3 times the cost of a Mig-35 and J-10B

Really , I thought they cost about 50 million a piece, basic model excluding the cost of weapons, training and maintenance. The 110 cost is it the fully loaded cost? Either way beyond the capability of BAF at present.

 

[Stannis Baratheon]

Really , I thought they cost about 50 million a piece, basic model excluding the cost of weapons, training and maintenance. The 110 cost is it the fully loaded cost? Either way beyond the capability of BAF at present.

No, that's for European countries ($56 million) and it was for a bigger order (85 jets). Most European jets are sold at a lower rate to European NATO nations than to others outside it.

This applies for both Rafale and Typhoons as well.

Also, weapon cost. Our current Chinese and Russian missiles can't be operated from these. Thus we need to buy the more expensive European missiles.

MiG-35 Fulcrum-F Multirole Fighter - Airforce Technology
MiG-35/MiG-35D

The engines seem to produce a lot of smoke. This kind of bad, as the planes have a higher radar/heat signature.

This does have the specs of J-10B
Expert: China's J-10B Fighter Superior to Main Fighters of Neighbors

 

[BDforever]

The engines seem to produce a lot of smoke. This kind of bad, as the planes have a higher radar/heat signature.

This does have the specs of J-10B
Expert: China's J-10B Fighter Superior to Main Fighters of Neighbors

you have lots of miss information, Mig29 used to have that kind of smoke, Mig 35 solved the problem

 

[Stannis Baratheon]

you have lots of miss information, Mig29 used to have that kind of smoke, Mig 35 solved the problem

That's a Mig-35 and it is producing a lot of smoke.

 

[BDforever]

That's a Mig-35 and it is producing a lot of smoke.

this is better for you to get it

 

[Stannis Baratheon]

this is better for you to get it

Dual engines = Twice the number of engines than single engines, thus twice the cost of maintenance.

Most of maintenance cost of a plane are its engines, thus single engines benefits us more. Also, the J-10B airframe is derived from both the F-16 and Eurofighter Typhoon, 2 of the best air superiority fighter jets.

 

[BDforever]

Dual engines = Twice the number of engines than single engines, thus twice the cost of maintenance.

Most of maintenance cost of a plane are its engines, thus single engines benefits us more. Also, the J-10B airframe is derived from both the F-16 and Eurofighter Typhoon, 2 of the best air superiority fighter jets.

Mig 35 maintenance cost 1/3 of Mig 29 ( claimed by official site)
bold part: agree but twin engines maintenance cost less than European single engines cost.
and J10B is not as much as good Mig 35' maneuverability.