Balochistan: 5 missing persons reach home after years of disappearance

[Safriz]

Indians and PMLN supporters are the same . Both hate Pakistan army.
Some butt hurt Nooona venting his frustration of armed forces,

 

[alee92nawaz]

Whosoever challenges the writ of the state shall pay.

Even if in the long term it kind of destroys national security? Creates hatered for the state and its armed forces? Come out of american action films.

 

[alee92nawaz]

If you dont know about procedures, doesn't mean they dont exist


wrong example.

They way you're talking about procedure looks like you designed it?

 

[Samlee]

So khlai makhlooq is definitely helping PTI. I hope sardar akhtar mengal keeps fighting for rights of balochi people

Nobody Has Any Problem With Anyone Fighting For Baloch Rights Within The Constitution and Federation Of Pakistan.But If He Goes The Way Of His Brother State Will React With Full Force.

 

[alee92nawaz]

Nobody Has Any Problem With Anyone Fighting For Baloch Rights Within The Constitution and Federation Of Pakistan.But If He Goes The Way Of His Brother State Will React With Full Force.

Exactly .

 

[Signalian]

They way you're talking about procedure looks like you designed it?

Few days back, some anti state elements were killed by CMI. There was a Balochi woman acting as their guide, helping those anti state elements in providing recon and intel. She had to be dispatched along with them.

Something aren't easy but have to be done.

 

[alee92nawaz]

Few days back, some anti state elements were killed by CMI. There was a Balochi woman acting as their guide, helping those anti state elements in providing recon and intel. She had to be dispatched along with them.

Something aren't easy but have to be done.

So then there should be transpercy about it. Some people are missing for years now. Pakistan is not properly puttupu forward its case

 

[qamar1990]

Few days back, some anti state elements were killed by CMI. There was a Balochi woman acting as their guide, helping those anti state elements in providing recon and intel. She had to be dispatched along with them.

Something aren't easy but have to be done.

Any links or more details??

 

[Signalian]

Any links or more details??

Thats all. CMI ops. you wont get any details in media also.

So then there should be transpercy about it. Some people are missing for years now. Pakistan is not properly puttupu forward its case

Intel Ops are carried out in all provinces. MI, FIU, CMI, IB, SB, FIA are active at many places. so why is that Baluchistan is linked with disappearance of people only?
why is the title of this thread about missing people of Baluchistan? why not Punjab, Sindh, KPK, FATA or kashmir.

Because when people go missing, its linked with genocide, national conspiracy to eradicate certain ethnic or regional group linking such acts to same which were shown in East Pakistan. India, Afghanistan and to some extent Iran wants Baluchistan separated from Pakistan.
And mind you its not the intel agencies kidnapping people 90% of the time, the people who go missing are those who have to under go training, paid by enemies of Pakistan and then return with a new identity to Fight PA.

As for putting the case forward, isn't Yadav enough proof ? He was operating in Baluchistan.

 

[Ziel]

Good news MA

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Welcome back to home. Hope they have good time with family

 

[qamar1990]

Thats all. CMI ops. you wont get any details in media also.


Intel Ops are carried out in all provinces. MI, FIU, CMI, IB, SB, FIA are active at many places. so why is that Baluchistan is linked with disappearance of people only?
why is the title of this thread about missing people of Baluchistan? why not Punjab, Sindh, KPK, FATA or kashmir.

Because when people go missing, its linked with genocide, national conspiracy to eradicate certain ethnic or regional group linking such acts to same which were shown in East Pakistan. India, Afghanistan and to some extent Iran wants Baluchistan separated from Pakistan.
And mind you its not the intel agencies kidnapping people 90% of the time, the people who go missing are those who have to under go training, paid by enemies of Pakistan and then return with a new identity to Fight PA.

As for putting the case forward, isn't Yadav enough proof ? He was operating in Baluchistan.

state shouldnt be able to just pick up people and kill them with due process that is too much power in the hands of too few.... basically these guys can pick up who ever they have a grudge against and do an encounter.

 

[Signalian]

state shouldnt be able to just pick up people and kill them with due process that is too much power in the hands of too few.... basically these guys can pick up who ever they have a grudge against and do an encounter.

The usual rhetoric against ISI surfacing again.

 

[Azog]

Senate panel okays idea of criminalising enforced disappearances
ISLAMABAD: A Senate committee on Tuesday approved the idea of criminalising enforced disappearances.

Chairman of the Senate’s Functional Committee on Human Rights Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar gave the Ministry of Human Rights a month to engage all stakeholders to draft a bill for criminalising enforced disappearances and making it a punishable offence.

The directive came after the Chairman of the Commission of Inquiry on Enforced Disappearances, retired Justice Javed Iqbal, urged the committee to go for legal sanctions to recover all missing persons. The meeting was informed that at present all cases of enforced disappearances were registered under Section 365 of the penal code which dealt with kidnapping.

Mr Iqbal was critical of parliament and the provincial governments for failing to criminalise enforced disappearances. “In the last 18 years no serious efforts have been made by the state to address the problem of enforced disappearances. There is no will, dedication or law brought into force by provincial governments either to address the issue,” Mr Iqbal said.

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Missing persons commission chief says issue has been politicised and blown out of all proportion

However, Mr Iqbal informed the committee, which met for a briefing by the Commission of Inquiry on Enforced Disappearances, that out of the 5,290 cases received by his office, 3,462 cases had been disposed of from March 2011 to July 2018. There were as many as 1,828 cases under investigation out of which several more would be disposed of in the near future.

He argued that the matter of missing persons had been politicised and blown out of all proportion by those elements, including international non-governmental organisations, which wanted to discredit and defame Pakistan.

“In many cases the people still missing are living abroad such as associates of Mangal Bagh, Brahamdagh Bugti and Sufi Muhammad. In other cases, investigations showed that persons declared missing are living in other cities. Their names have not been removed from the fake lists of missing persons with the United Nations,” Mr Iqbal told the committee.

The only effort made by the government was the formulation of two reports by Justice Kamal Mansoor and Justice Noor Muhammad on the sensitive matter. “These reports have never been made public and are sitting in a drawer of a section officer. Sections of the reports... should be made public. The reports would provide guidance and point relevant platforms, including this committee, in the right direction to recover the missing persons,” said Mr Iqbal who is also the chairman of the National Accountability Bureau (NAB).

According to Mr Iqbal, responsibility for enforced disappearances had been fixed on more than 150 individuals from every walk of life. He also defended internment centres where all detained individuals had been accounted for.

However, some members did not agree with the retired judge of the Supreme Court when he defended security agencies for allegedly picking up and detaining individuals.

Senator Muhammad Usman Khan Kakar suggested that certain organisations were as much responsible for enforced disappearances as they were for creating militants like Sufi Muhammad and Mangal Bagh.

“All departments are subservient to parliament but some refuse to acknowledge its supremacy while we watch helplessly,” Mr Kakar said.

MNA Mohsin Dawar, who had specially been invited to the meeting, alleged that security agencies were involved in enforced disappearances more than anyone else.

Senator Sassui Palijo told the committee that she was answerable to the families of missing persons.

“It is imperative that all missing persons are produced in court for the law to take its course. This will bring relief to their family members who do not know if their loved ones are alive or dead,” said Ms Palijo.

Published in Dawn, August 29th, 2018

 

[qamar1990]

The usual rhetoric against ISI surfacing again.

I don’t care what u call it..... what kind of country gives justification for its armed forces to pick up citizens and execute them?