The reality is that Pakistan is the 6th largest nation .. Projected as one the largest economies of the future,a regional power with one of the largest and best armies in Asia armed with nuclear weapons .. We are simple too big to fail..
There is no such thing as too big to fail. A superpower failed and came down to its sustainable size. No reason why Pakistan cannot or will not fail or lose further territory before it comes to a natural equilibrium size bro. You lost Bangladesh remember? In spite of a nuclear US parked in the Bay of Bengal. This time you have only China And China is no US. We do not need to do a thing. You guys are doing a better job than any Indian military or proxy strategy ever could. Of course that does not mean we would sit idle either. We do not appreciate your meddling in Kashmir. And if the opportunity presents itself to make you spend your limited and fast depleting resources elsewhere to protect our turf, we will do what any stronger state will do to a meddlesome hostile weaker state. Count on it.
Simply because it's trolling .. There are several thread on Balochistan on PDF .. But it hurts you guys when somebody opens a thread on Kashmir and all the indians try to divert the topic which has nothing to do with them simply because they can't handle the reality ?
I do agree there is a degree of trolling. But not every Indian who wants to engage you on Balochistan is a troll. Just as not every Pakistani who engages us on Kashmir is a troll. But if you guys can start a gazillion inane threads on Kashmir, on a flareup that has been fueled and orchestrated by you, and then you clamp down on Indians turning around to uestion you on your really dubious record in Balochistan, then you will agree that it would be one-way traffic.
Let's be honest .. Not a single forum related to defence of any nation will give you even freedom to talk crap about their country...
I agree with you here. Does not mean I need to either like it or go along. If I cannot have my say, then I rather not say anything. I am not here to only play defense. Not here to troll either. There is a difference. On Balochistan, your management loses balance and cannot judge the difference.
I surely would ... But whose "raping" and killing anybody ??
Can you even point out 1 incident of rape in Balochistan by the army (which doesn't operate there ... Rather FC Paramil which itself comprises of locals)... In the past 5 or even 10'years ?
Who was Dr. Shazia Khalid. Granted it happened in 2005, so just out of your 10 year period. Is the current uprising not linked back to that incident?
There are many other reports, of official torture cells, and something called "rape cells" (sic). Number of of rape/zina cases from Balochistan (dera bugti, bala kot, jaferabad, quetta). AHRC reports. Your own NCMC reports.
Surely not. Its a lot worse, as we see shocking things come to light.
Unlike Indian army our soldiers don't rape .. For multiple reasons .. Because the soldiers aren't aliens .. They come from the same people.. They are not occupying a Foriegn area or Foriegn people .. Or even people belonging to a different religion !
Fuk there was even a time when the soldiers or army didn't want to fight Taliban whom were considered disgruntled Muslims and fellow countrymen!!
Many of your own people have spoken out openly refuting the holier than thou image of your forces that you are portraying. Facts seem to say that the insurgencies (South Asia's oldest) have totally alienated the people of Balochistan from the rest of Pakistan. And your forces do see the people as aliens. Our forces do not torch villages like yours do. Our forces do not use fighters and gunships to straffe our people as yours do. Lets not take the discussion to Fata and Khyber Pakhtunwa. Let's discuss Balochistan. Since you are a Baloch, I am trying to understand how you are ok with what is happening to your people. You sound as if you are in denial. Either due to lack of information on the ground or institutionalized denial. Probably the latter, cause you seem pretty clued in otherwise.
You people don't even know the real issue ... Yet you are ready to jump to conclusions ..
Balochistans main issue (which India is taking advantage of) isn't seperatism .. It has always been development .. And the insurgency isn't wide spread rather it's was lead in the past by 3 tribes including mine ... But the funny thing is that even the so called insurgent leaders own brothers and families are sitting in the govt or they themselves have been in power as ministers or chief ministers!
You talk about brahamdagh bugti ? His brothers and cousins are in the govt !! He himself is pretty much disowned by his family or tribe...
He's not even a chieftain .. He also has given indication of peace talks within the framework of the state.. What more ? Because he knows killing labourers,doctors or professors only earns him hatred.
His own tribe is rally against India .. Wonder why?
The sub tribe of Bugtis kalpars want the entire family dead for their attrocities ..
The mengal gang lead by Javaid mengal his own brother is a sitting parliamentarian lol... And has been a minister several times ...
South Asia has a long history of haves and have nots. Of Jaichands and Mir jafars. Of internal rotten apples bringing about the downfall of a people. What's so different to what you describe that is not seen across the sub-continent? The only difference here is that the people do not want to live within the union. And never did. They are not just against the Jaichands and Mir Jafars. They see the Pakistani state as occupiers.
If the people hate the state than why is it that they are welcoming the state initiatives when it comes to development ? Why are dozens of thousands of young Baloch guys joining the evil army every year ? 12,000 from Balochistan alone each year .. ?
Why is FC the evil Paramil composed of Baloch youth?
Same reason as in Kashmir bro. Jobs. Money. Food on the table. Same reason 2 million Indians fought the British war under the British flag across the globe.
If the terrorist BLA or BRA has support why do they live in the mountains and kill innocent Baloch villagers when they don't give them shelter ? Why do they live in Afghanistan and seek help from India or afghan govt?
Same way terrorists in Kashmir hide in caves and come out to rape and plunder and kill at night bro. Village sarpanches. Village girls.
As for picking up the gun .. Now you know why Kashmiris have picked up the gun and there are mass protests against the Indian occupation in IOK..
I have no issue with Kashmiris picking up the gun bro. Our conversation has only proven how your Balochistan is no different.
And will herefore be treated as such.
Cheers.
