Resorting to personal insults. Congratulations BlackEagle you won the debate.
Honestly mate I think you lot are in cult like club where any critical analysis of your leaders is seen to be blasphemous. You are no neutral judge that you can just state something and it is.
Do you not realise that like Osama tried using terrorism and force, you irrationally and illogically suggesting a winner or loser has the same thin strand running in you genes?
I am beginning to realise why Israelis manage to keep you lot under their boots. Until you learn that you can not force people whether that is rule people or win hearts and minds with insults and force you and your lot will remain in the self created dessert