BAF Has Settled for SU-30

[asad71]

Seriously, you think BD will be a threat to India ever? In case of conflict, it will barely take 8 hours for Indian Forces to conquer Dhaka.

Not ever, BD is already a threat to the WW II vintage mercenary colonial military army of Bharat. Our military is the most well equipped and best trained in SA. Let's see how many Divs you can deploy against our eleven? Thirty three. You have only thirty one. And who will protect your ar$$$ in the West and your head in the North?

Yes or no?

@asad71 are you sharing insider information or your own opinion. I don't want to look stupid on other forums.

This report is all over the media. Bd Mily Form covered it couple of months back when it was known BAF pilots were flying these with PLAAF.

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""Bangladesh Air Force and the ministry of defence announced plans to procure one squadron of Su-30MK2s after the delivery of 16 Yakovlev Yak-130 in 2015.[12]""

Wikipedia

 

[bdslph]

the tittle is misleading
there is no contact or article on su30 purchasing
mig29 m2 m mig35 su30 are only discussing in the forums

 

[UKBengali]

BAF will go for newer Mig-29s or Mig-35 for that matter, given their past acquisition and recent purchase of Yak-130. Exaggerated acquisition and running cost of Su-30s doesn't make sense for such tiny nations.

Lol. BD is not tiny as it has 160 million people and 220 billion dollar US GDP.

SU-30 is affordable in numbers up to around 50 aircraft if BD was wants it.

 

[bongbang]

By near future plannings.
For maritime strike, 1 squadron of SU30 MK2
For air superiority, 1/2 squadron of Mig29 second generation
And Myanmar is the threat.

 

[Ragnar]

We got a bouncing economy. We manage our money well. We don't squander funds in maha-mega projects like Mars trips etc while half the people are without toilet and live on only one meal. We don't have thousands of farmers committing suicide due hunger. We have plenty of money, and can raise funds beyond your dreams.

The incredible bouncing economy of Bongolodesh..

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Congratulations to Bangladesh

 

[danger007]

Not ever, BD is already a threat to the WW II vintage mercenary colonial military army of Bharat.

lolz....

Our military is the most well equipped and best trained in SA.

BD armed forces are laughing stock in SA..
MBT-2000-44
Type 69II MK2G-50
Type 59-174
Eurocopter AS365 Dauphin-2
Bell 206-3
Bangladesh first got tanks in 1974 during Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman's trip to Egypt. The then Egyptian president Anwar Sadat presented Bangabandhu with 44 tanks that were in good shape. The army's armor regiments in the mid-1980s were equipped with Type 59, Type 54/55, and, its most recent acquisition, Type 62 light tanks (not to be confused with Soviet Type 62 medium tanks). The Type 59 main battle tank and Type 62 light tanks were supplied directly by China. Details regarding the terms of purchase, the training of Bangladeshi tank crews, and maintenance arrangements were never publicized. Following the series of coups and mutinies that erupted between 1975 and 1977, Zia removed the army's tanks from Dhaka in order to guard against further coups. The appearance of Type 59 and Type 62 tanks at the Victory Day parade in Dhaka in 1987, however, marked the first time that any tanks had appeared in a Victory Day parade and suggested that tanks may again be deployed in the vicinity of the capital.

The government took initiatives in 2003 to buy tanks for the army, but that initiative did not see the light of day due to budgetary limitations. The government was supposed to buy seven tanks in 2010 and seven more in 2011. But only a Chinese company took part in the tender, the government cancelled it, and re-invited tender in which four companies from China, Russia, Ukraine, and Pakistan participated. Later the army requested the government to buy 44 tanks instead of 14. Chinese company Norinco was selected as the lowest bidder in June 2011 for the Main Battle Tanks (MBT-2000) for $160 million for the tanks and three armored recovery vehicles (ARV). The tanks were to be delivered in phases over a span of 27 months. In the first phase 24 tanks will come within 20 months of the contract award [by early 2013], and the rest would come in the second phase over the following 7 months [by the end of 2013].

The first artillery unit of Bangladesh Army was formed on July 22, 1971 in Konaban of India with six cannons (3.7 inch Howitzers) including the two presented by India. The newly formed artillery was named after Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman. The Mujib Battery took part in the Liberation War under the “K Force” in Sector-2 and used the cannons in the battlefield.

Other army weapons included 105mm and 122mm howitzers, 60mm and 120mm mortars, and 57mm, 76mm, and 106mm antitank weapons. The weapons had been acquired from a variety of sources, including as spoils of war from the Pakistan Army. In 2011 the Army signed a draft deal with the countries concerned to purchase 18 new cannons.

A report of the Army, analysing the allocations and expenditures of the past four fiscal years was placed before the parliamentary standing committee on defence ministry on 28 May 2009. The report identifies insufficient funding as the “key problem” to starting replacement of outdated weaponry. “Most of our weapons are from the 1960s and ’70s, which belittles our overall military prowess,” it said. According to the report, 90.3 percent small arms and 89 percent field artillery guns used by the army were bought during 1960s-80s while all the tanks are from that period.

The Bangladesh Army has begun inducting fourth-generation China-made MTB-2000 tanks. Bangladesh has placed an order for 44 MBT2000 tanks. The deal is worth $162 million. In January 2014 it was erroneously reported that the Bangladesh army was in the process of procuring "2,000 Main Battle Tanks" from China at the cost of 162 million dollars. The MBT2000 is the Al Khalid tanks, in the service of the Pakistan army since 2001. This was the first time Bangladesh has obtained newly assembled Main Battle Tanks (MBTs). The existence of the main battle tank Type 90-II MBT (also called MBT 2000) was first revealed in late 1991. China's MBT2000 tank performance close to the India T90S

guns-Heckler & Koch G3
Type 81 assault rifle
Daewoo K1
Daewoo K2
Steyr AUG
M4 Carbine (Army Special Forces Officers)
Heckler & Koch HK416 (Special Forces)
M16A4 (Special Forces)
Type 56 assault rifle (Naval Infantry)

anti air defence, ship gun...
Category:Ships of the Bangladesh Navy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Let's see how many Divs you can deploy against our eleven? Thirty three. You have only thirty one. And who will protect your ar$$$ in the West and your head in the North?

are you kidding... our defence budget is 40Billion $ and yours 4B$

This report is all over the media. Bd Mily Form covered it couple of months back when it was known BAF pilots were flying these with PLAAF.

"

""Bangladesh Air Force and the ministry of defence announced plans to procure one squadron of Su-30MK2s after the delivery of 16 Yakovlev Yak-130 in 2015.[12]""

Wikipedia

we are flying SU-30 for years...

@Imran Khan your views please

 

[MilSpec]

And what exactly do you find funny in that?



Nope BAF will not train/cooperate with IAF. After all IAF is the top potential threat for BAF. And for some time our pilots are already flying these in China and Russia. In future not IAF, but BAF shall be training RMAF and Indonesian AF. pilots.

lol

 

[danger007]

lol

 

[Imran Khan]

lolz....



BD armed forces are laughing stock in SA..
MBT-2000-44
Type 69II MK2G-50
Type 59-174
Eurocopter AS365 Dauphin-2
Bell 206-3
Bangladesh first got tanks in 1974 during Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman's trip to Egypt. The then Egyptian president Anwar Sadat presented Bangabandhu with 44 tanks that were in good shape. The army's armor regiments in the mid-1980s were equipped with Type 59, Type 54/55, and, its most recent acquisition, Type 62 light tanks (not to be confused with Soviet Type 62 medium tanks). The Type 59 main battle tank and Type 62 light tanks were supplied directly by China. Details regarding the terms of purchase, the training of Bangladeshi tank crews, and maintenance arrangements were never publicized. Following the series of coups and mutinies that erupted between 1975 and 1977, Zia removed the army's tanks from Dhaka in order to guard against further coups. The appearance of Type 59 and Type 62 tanks at the Victory Day parade in Dhaka in 1987, however, marked the first time that any tanks had appeared in a Victory Day parade and suggested that tanks may again be deployed in the vicinity of the capital.

The government took initiatives in 2003 to buy tanks for the army, but that initiative did not see the light of day due to budgetary limitations. The government was supposed to buy seven tanks in 2010 and seven more in 2011. But only a Chinese company took part in the tender, the government cancelled it, and re-invited tender in which four companies from China, Russia, Ukraine, and Pakistan participated. Later the army requested the government to buy 44 tanks instead of 14. Chinese company Norinco was selected as the lowest bidder in June 2011 for the Main Battle Tanks (MBT-2000) for $160 million for the tanks and three armored recovery vehicles (ARV). The tanks were to be delivered in phases over a span of 27 months. In the first phase 24 tanks will come within 20 months of the contract award [by early 2013], and the rest would come in the second phase over the following 7 months [by the end of 2013].

The first artillery unit of Bangladesh Army was formed on July 22, 1971 in Konaban of India with six cannons (3.7 inch Howitzers) including the two presented by India. The newly formed artillery was named after Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman. The Mujib Battery took part in the Liberation War under the “K Force” in Sector-2 and used the cannons in the battlefield.

Other army weapons included 105mm and 122mm howitzers, 60mm and 120mm mortars, and 57mm, 76mm, and 106mm antitank weapons. The weapons had been acquired from a variety of sources, including as spoils of war from the Pakistan Army. In 2011 the Army signed a draft deal with the countries concerned to purchase 18 new cannons.

A report of the Army, analysing the allocations and expenditures of the past four fiscal years was placed before the parliamentary standing committee on defence ministry on 28 May 2009. The report identifies insufficient funding as the “key problem” to starting replacement of outdated weaponry. “Most of our weapons are from the 1960s and ’70s, which belittles our overall military prowess,” it said. According to the report, 90.3 percent small arms and 89 percent field artillery guns used by the army were bought during 1960s-80s while all the tanks are from that period.

The Bangladesh Army has begun inducting fourth-generation China-made MTB-2000 tanks. Bangladesh has placed an order for 44 MBT2000 tanks. The deal is worth $162 million. In January 2014 it was erroneously reported that the Bangladesh army was in the process of procuring "2,000 Main Battle Tanks" from China at the cost of 162 million dollars. The MBT2000 is the Al Khalid tanks, in the service of the Pakistan army since 2001. This was the first time Bangladesh has obtained newly assembled Main Battle Tanks (MBTs). The existence of the main battle tank Type 90-II MBT (also called MBT 2000) was first revealed in late 1991. China's MBT2000 tank performance close to the India T90S

guns-Heckler & Koch G3
Type 81 assault rifle
Daewoo K1
Daewoo K2
Steyr AUG
M4 Carbine (Army Special Forces Officers)
Heckler & Koch HK416 (Special Forces)
M16A4 (Special Forces)
Type 56 assault rifle (Naval Infantry)

anti air defence, ship gun...
Category:Ships of the Bangladesh Navy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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are you kidding... our defence budget is 40Billion $ and yours 4B$





we are flying SU-30 for years...

@Imran Khan your views please

mazy main hain janab ALLAH ka shuker hai

 

[extra terrestrial]

you never know ... If AL stays in power.. india might give them there old SU's.. Now india don't feel any threat from Bangladeshi's because of there control on them.. It's a win win situation for both .. Bangladesh getting more modern aircraft then they have in there inventory.. and india getting money for there older Su's..

There will be no defence purchases from India for strategic reasons...

 

[Imran Khan]

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leny do bhai bachy ki jaan lo gay kya ? intenet per hi liya hai na konsa asli main le liya hai

 

[mb444]

Asad with respect my souces tell me BAF is putting together a proposal for several squardans of Migs as an immediate acquisition with a squad of twin engine jets for maritime duties (model unspecified) for acquisition by 2020. Immediate plan is to get more Migs.

The navy is also looking for maritime Helios but that is like to be shelved for proposal of further surface ships with definite one more sub up to possibility of 3 more subs by 2020 from China. Again unfortunately second hand Chinese subs modified for BN.

It's from a fairly reliable source. BAF aquisition to be funded 30percent directly by GOB and rest via Russian credit.

BN aquisition to be fully funded by GOB.

 

[Viper0011.]

1. Considering BVR, the SU 30 is the best in SA. Should aim for four Squadrons fast.

2. Normal BVR range is said to be min 20 miles and max 50 miles.

3. This is a large plane. Stealth not so effective. Spot-able with the naked eye.

4.For dogfights we should complete two Sqns of Mig - 29s and have them fully/constantly upgraded.

5. IAF is flying SU-30 - which is not good news.

6. Since logging hours is so very essential we ought to tie up with oil rich Malaysia and Indonesia for joint training at their location..

Instead of SU's, if I was in BAD, I'd pick the J series (11 or 16), if those were the only two options. Otherwise, I'd try to get the -16 (B-60) or -18 from the US. Next option, the EFT or Rafale. But back to SU or J series, the Chinese have started to focus on quality a LOT from the what I've been learning. Their manufacturing process is becoming very precion based like the US (albeit they are and will always be a few years behind and so will Russia). So between China and Russia, BD should look to China as their technology base is newer, and more focused on the current generation.

Russians have more experience but maintenance has always been an issue for anything they produce.
So why not get the same thing from China with less maintenance issues, plus cost effectiveness too as they are probably looking into getting more customers, so you get a better deal overall. In some assessments, Chinese, in quality wise, will start to leave Russia behind in the next 3-5 years as they are adapting a more precision, automated manufacturing processes. They learned that the hard way when trying to produce jet engines. But such QC based manufacturing helps everything an industry produces.

 

[mb444]

Instead of SU's, if I was in BAD, I'd pick the J series (11 or 16), if those were the only two options. Otherwise, I'd try to get the -16 (B-60) or -18 from the US. Next option, the EFT or Rafale. But back to SU or J series, the Chinese have started to focus on quality a LOT from the what I've been learning. Their manufacturing process is becoming very precion based like the US (albeit they are and will always be a few years behind and so will Russia). So between China and Russia, BD should look to China as their technology base is newer, and more focused on the current generation.

Russians have more experience but maintenance has always been an issue for anything they produce.
So why not get the same thing from China with less maintenance issues, plus cost effectiveness too as they are probably looking into getting more customers, so you get a better deal overall. In some assessments, Chinese, in quality wise, will start to leave Russia behind in the next 3-5 years as they are adapting a more precision, automated manufacturing processes. They learned that the hard way when trying to produce jet engines. But such QC based manufacturing helps everything an industry produces.

I would agree with you. BD should buy Chinese..... I think BD is China's second biggest defense related customer.

BD is considering Russians purely due to the maturity of their platform. China is not far from producing reliable engines but these are still early days with China just now inducting their home grown birds in to their airforce. BD has financial constraints, we simply can not buy something that is still working through kinks..... Additionally I do not believe China is in a position to offer these for sale given their own requirements and constrains with production capability.

BAF has urgent needs but is limited by what it can afford. This only leaves the Russians. BAF has experience with Migs, has developed competency to fully service them in BD and although there may be other platforms that are attractive I believe Migs have been selected and BAF will follow through with sizeable acquisition of these birds.

In the medium term BAF wants Maritime capability and without doubt Chinese offering would be evaluated then.