Babri Masjid Case Ruling Today

[KS]

Ah! I see, giving in to a wild RSS *mob* that demolished a mosque and letting them get away scot free while rewarding their violence with 1/3rd o the Babri masjid is NOT religious appeasement? You have ventured deep into the land of incredulity.

FYKI..this is just a title suit as to who gets the ownership of the land decided in a civil court and not a criminal case of what should be done against thise who demolished the mosque which is a separate case to be tried in a criminal court.

There is a difference.

 

[PakShaheen79]

Open your eyes, dont relate justice with religious appeasement.

No justice in this case all religious appeasement of majority.

Majority of muslims in India as well as Pakistan are aryans too.

Wrong. There are hardly any visible number of Aryans in India. Most of 99% of Indian Muslims are converts.


In Pakistan too most of Muslims are converts whereas some parts including Northwest Pakistan is Aryan.

But lets not drag it here in this thread that has nothing to do with Babri Mosque

 

[cybertron]

@techlahore
what do you expect would have happened at that time wen a train filled with hindus (including children) wer burnt which later instigated the riot

 

[Markus]

The court has NOT accepted that it's Ram bhoomi, what it HAS accepted is that a Hindu temple existed on that spot

First go and read then talk.

The court has accepted that the disputed site is indeed the birthplace of Lord Ram and even after the divisions are made in the 3 parts, the main disputed sections must be given to Hindus.

 

[Bang Galore]

The last part of your sentence makes no sense to me, but as for "feeling injustice", the whole point is that the muslims DID feel wronged and they DID appeal to the courts, who proceeded to trample on their rights and snatch 2/3rd of what was rightfully theirs from them. What has happened in meting out justice to the Gujrat murderers? Or soldiers in Kashmir who have killed Kashmiri children in cold blood? How can you expect that a wronged minority that is constantly being pushed around will trust the supreme court when previous wrongs against it have gone unaddressed?

I'm really sorry to see you carrying on this way. Many of us have pointed out that this issue is a civil case predating the events that you keep bringing up. The Sunni Waqf Board filed a case in 1961 about 12 years after the idols were placed. The court has ruled that their suit is not maintainable due to limitation( the suit should have been filed within 6 years under the old law which was applicable then, the new law allows only for 3 years).

 

[PakShaheen79]

So its clear now--

2/3 of the land goes to Hindus
and
1/3 to Muslims

Yes and the 1/3 land given to Muslims is infact not Mosque land rather it is outside the mosque

 

[Jade]

So its clear now--

2/3 of the land goes to Hindus
and
1/3 to Muslims

No, it not clear to you. Before coming to such a definite conclusion I suggest you to do some basic research

 

[Anonymous_Clown]

I don't know what you are on about but where I live minorities are the some of the richest and most powerful around. Perhaps not in all of Pakistan but certainly in Karachi.

Our three richest groups are Ahmadi's, Agha Khani's and Parsis. In my area alone we have many businesses owned by people from these groups. I have many hindu neighbors who reside in an up scale area and my doctor and dentist both are hindu's.

I guess you have been limited by what you have been fed.

Replace all the minority names with Muslims/Christians, replace Pakistan with India, and I can do a search-replace and type the same post back. Where will I stop if I start naming all the successful Muslims in Indian society? And I mean, really, hugely successful.

The point is, there is no black and white. It is all shades of gray. But then we have some Pakistani posters who sarcastically talk about "peace loving Hindus" and rant on about 3 incidents (always these three): Babri Masjid, Gujrat and Orissa. Then they are bound to get authentic links from genuine neutral and Pakistani sources about oppression of minorities in Pakistan.

Anyhow, the point in this case is, the court's judgement has not favoured anyone. They have provided reasoning as to why the title is to be jointly held. The reasoning is available in the judgement summary posted some pages above. This is a good middle-path which ought to be acceptable to all parties. We need to move on, and there should be some compromise from both sides.

 

[justanobserver]

The court has accepted that the disputed site is indeed the birthplace of Lord Ram

No, it hasn't , that was just a statement give by the Hindu Mahasabah lawyer Ravi Shankar and the mainstream media picked it up

 

[Jade]

Yes and the 1/3 land given to Muslims is infact not Mosque land rather it is outside the mosque

Where did you get this information? Any credible resource

 

[riju78]

They have no choice other than accepting decisions imposed on them by hindu majority.

The Indian Muslims could not got justice in Gujrat massacre by hindus how can they not be ok when they have no clout to get justice

so the hindu majority could have said no land at all for muslims....
did the gujarat riots spread anywhere outside gujarat???

 

[T-Faz]

Replace all the minority names with Muslims/Christians, replace Pakistan with India, and I can do a search-replace and type the same post back. Where will I stop if I start naming all the successful Muslims in Indian society? And I mean, really, hugely successful.

The point is, there is no black and white. It is all shades of gray. But then we have some Pakistani posters who sarcastically talk about "peace loving Hindus" and rant on about 3 incidents (always these three): Babri Masjid, Gujrat and Orissa. Then they are bound to get authentic links from genuine neutral and Pakistani sources about oppression of minorities in Pakistan.

Anyhow, the point in this case is, the court's judgement has not favoured anyone. They have provided reasoning as to why the title is to be jointly held. The reasoning is available in the judgement summary posted some pages above. This is a good middle-path which ought to be acceptable to all parties. We need to move on, and there should be some compromise from both sides.

But you see that minorities always suffer from some kind of discrimination in any country they reside in. It all depends on the social phase of the country. Pakistan is no champion of rights for minorities and no one claims for it to be. We have a long way to go, however India is not all that much better in terms of rights for its minorities.

 

[marcos98]

Yes and the 1/3 land given to Muslims is infact not Mosque land rather it is outside the mosque

the status quo is to be maintained for the next 3 months,
after which their will be the division of 2.7 acre land.

 

[TechLahore]

Because the Aryan invasion theory is not yet fully or even marginally proved ,but the invasion by foreign looter Babar has been proved beyond any doubt.

Get the difference?

The fact that you are calling Babar, who laid the foundation for the most glorious line of monarchs to rule and unify the subcontinent, a "foreign looter" speaks to the many biases you are living with. How friggin' ungrateful. If the "foreign looter" mughals are so despised, please disassemble the Red Fort, Taj Mahal, Qutb Minar and numerous other monuments which earn revenue for you till today and grace the front cover of every tourist book about India, and ship them to us. Or Afghanistan. I am sure they (or we) will happily relieve you of these monuments to the "foreign looters" who lived in India, made India their own, brought cultural sophistication and the highest art forms to India, united India and made it strong.

And while you're at it, take a pickaxe and undo Victoria Terminus, Le Martinier and all the other buildings the European "looters" built in India. Pick apart all the bridges and train lines they laid and return yourself to pre-Aryan times.

Calling the glorious mughals "foreign looters" is not only hateful, but also ludicrous. But I am glad you came out and said this, because now we all know what kind of biases and hate we are dealing with here... It is statements like yours that make all muslims believe that they were never accepted and will never be accepted by hindus. Very pathetic.

 

[JonAsad]

No, it not clear to you. Before coming to such a definite conclusion I suggest you to do some basic research

what basic research? Nirmohi Akhara are jains or hindus?