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Iran has been on the wrong side of history since the past many decades now. It's actions has made it clear that it is not to be trusted in any way. It is like a snake which bites you whenever you are off-guard.

Iran has openly aligned itself with Pakistan's number 1 enemy and now Iran can not and should not expect Pakistan to forget the mischief and fitnah that Iran has been up to during past years. Time for pay back for this firnah-regime.

Because of Iran's actions, we Pakistanis now strongly believe that Iran is in the pocket of zionists and working to further their agenda. All this rhetoric against Israel is nothing but hogwash - a noora kushti.

To prove it's sincerity towards Pakistan, Iran has no option but to take tangible visible steps which confirms that it considers Pakistan as it's ally, else, things will be difficult for Iran vis-a-vis Pakistan in the coming days.

Time of Iran to come to it's senses and realize that it's capability is nothing more than a country which is only best at effectively using proxy communities and proxy militia to create problems for it's neighbouring countries.
Actually Paksitan supported Taliban to behead Iranian diplomats and when Iran wanted to do trade with Pakistan by building gas pipeline between Iran and Pakistan, Pakistan decided to listen to saudi terrorists and their US master. In that, India doesnt differ much from Pakistan.
However we Iranians never cry about these things (we had 8 years war against west and soviet union and europe backed saddam). We don't mention these things because the battle to make our country plus our region great will continue as usual.
 
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Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan,Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan
We should have an active policy. If SCO's progress is slow then we can build alliance along with these countries we do offer expertise, equipment and experience required in alliance environment. If somehow someway we can get them to rally together you will see not only these countries but Pakistan too will weild more power in the region.
Theses countries are not big fan of Russia nor China except for certain interest but with Pakistan a security and strategic interest. If we can pull this off you will see Arabs, Iranians and Afghans will get on baord eventually.
I mean if Armenia knew that provoking Azerbaijan will provoke many other they will yield to certain areas as well and will face further pressure espically in NATO Russia context.
 
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We don't mention these things because the battle to make our country plus our region great will continue as usual.
Iran's dream of making it's country great again will never become a reality if it doesn't align itself completely within the new regional bloc : Turkey-Pakistan-China-Russia

Till now, Iran is stuck in it's past mistakes - a situation which Pakistan has lately taken itself out from successfully. It has stopped aligning itself with wahabbi extremist opportunist Saudi regime and broken itself out of that fake "Islamic brotherhood" chain which tied it's feet till recently. Pakistan has effectively shown the middle finger to US and it's allied middle eastern countries and strategically aligned itself within the above-mentioned new regional power bloc.

Iran also has to come out of it's past and start afresh with it relationship with Pakistan, with a clean heart. This is the message which the Pakistani political and military leadership gave directly to Iranian leadership few months back, in person.
 
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Iran's dream of making it's country great again will never become a reality if it doesn't align itself completely within the new regional bloc : Turkey-Pakistan-China-Russia

Till now, Iran is stuck in it's past mistakes - a situation which Pakistan has lately taken itself out from successfully. It has stopped aligning itself with wahabbi extremist opportunist Saudi regime and broken itself out of that fake "Islamic brotherhood" chain which tied it's feet till recently. Pakistan has effectively shown the middle finger to US and it's allied middle eastern countries and strategically aligned itself within the above-mentioned new regional power bloc.

Iran also has to come out of it's past and start afresh with it relationship with Pakistan, with a clean heart. This is the message which the Pakistani political and military leadership gave directly to Iranian leadership few months back, in person.
Basic Facts about your fantasy and non-existing regional bloc:

Turkey is Nato and half-west and has no energy and murdered russian ambassador and supports pan-turkism and separation of parts of Russia and China and also worked many times against Russian interests in Syria and are totally on the opposite in Libya. They also give CIA agents/pan-turkist separatists refuge in Turkey.

Iran is Asia and non-nato and has energy and candidate for eurasian economic union (already made agreements with) and did not kill Russian ambassador and sees separatism and pan-turkism as cancer just like what China mentioned. Iran is neutral in Libya and not working against Russian interests in Libya. Iran has eternal peace with China since and before and after Tang Dynasty-Sassanid Dynasty era. The ties are cultural and historical.

China is not interested in pan-turkism/uygurism and Russia put Turkey in its place different times in Syria and told turkey you killed my ambassador, you're going to listen from now on.
 
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Lol

Traxtor vi va.

@zartosht must be a perpolisi :D

On topic, its unfortunate. Specially given the fact Azerbaijan Army has Upper hand and yet they must Wait for receiving the First punch. Its just sad

Armenian Army is not that strong, Azerbaijan can Take its lands back in a blink of an eye.

The problem is Aliev government is busy with suppressing their religious Community. Instead of focusing on Armenian, they are killing their own people. He has destroyed remaining Honor of Aliev family.

listen dadash I understand you are younger and with youth comes irrational emotion sometime.

im not sure what your trying to do really by going against Iranian national interest, putting your support behind a zionist puppet bully state against a country that has been nothing but friendly towards Iran in its entire modern history.

When Azerbaijan became a country after seperating from USSR in 1991. Iran was literally the first country to recognize it.

Iran saw Azerbaijan as a natural shia muslim ally.

Azeri dictators (former KGB operatives) saw this as a threat to their own personal power. An Azerbaijan that embraces islam means an Azerbaijan that would be close to and dominated by Iran. with heavy power in the clergy base.

instead they specifically went on an ANTI-islam agenda and heavily promoted a pan turkic fascist view. Their president openly said Iran is a failed state whos azeri regions will join Azerbaijan after Iran was giving them an open hand..

in spite of all this, Iran still took the dignified neutral positon, and helped out both sides. preventing civilians from starving to death. Azeris are furious that Iran didnt let the Armenians starve to death.

today azerbaijan is the only Iranian neighbour that openly allows zionists to operate against Iran.

lastly i urge you to take some self reflection. You are extremely mad that the US is a bully state that violates Iranian rights.. Yet you support a bully state like azerbaijan and openly say you dont care about history or facts..

that makes you a complete hypocrite and loses any moral authority you have when condemning american behaviour. i highly suggest further along in life, you try to take positions based on some research and thought. instead of primitive tribal instincts.
 
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listen dadash I understand you are younger and with youth comes irrational emotion sometime.

im not sure what your trying to do really by going against Iranian national interest, putting your support behind a zionist puppet bully state against a country that has been nothing but friendly towards Iran in its entire modern history.

When Azerbaijan became a country after seperating from USSR in 1991. Iran was literally the first country to recognize it.

Iran saw Azerbaijan as a natural shia muslim ally.

Azeri dictators (former KGB operatives) saw this as a threat to their own personal power. An Azerbaijan that embraces islam means an Azerbaijan that would be close to and dominated by Iran. with heavy power in the clergy base.

instead they specifically went on an ANTI-islam agenda and heavily promoted a pan turkic fascist view. Their president openly said Iran is a failed state whos azeri regions will join Azerbaijan after Iran was giving them an open hand..

in spite of all this, Iran still took the dignified neutral positon, and helped out both sides. preventing civilians from starving to death. Azeris are furious that Iran didnt let the Armenians starve to death.

today azerbaijan is the only Iranian neighbour that openly allows zionists to operate against Iran.

lastly i urge you to take some self reflection. You are extremely mad that the US is a bully state that violates Iranian rights.. Yet you support a bully state like azerbaijan and openly say you dont care about history or facts..

that makes you a complete hypocrite and loses any moral authority you have when condemning american behaviour. i highly suggest further along in life, you try to take positions based on some research and thought. instead of primitive tribal instincts.
I don't like this debate. Countering my own coumtryman is idiotic to me, forgetting the Armenian genocide is treason to my kin and Blood, i hope you understand my situation.

My advice, don't lose your soft power with idolizing One side and demonizing the other side. I don't hate Armenian people, Azeris built historical artifacts in Iran especially Isfahan with Armenian help. Azeris gave shelter to this namak be haram people when ruthless Ottomans killed them in cold blood. If they have a footprint in Isfahan then its because of Safavids mercy to this namak be haram people.

Safavids faked their seyed ancestry, facts remain facts (read what professor Savory mentioned about that). Mods don't be biased and leave my comment, else also delete the opposite comments against the fact which I'm mentioning, else I will open a topic about Iranian ancestry of safavids, to combat history falsification here.
Dude Kurds are Sunnis. How did you Come to this cinclusion is debateable.
 
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I don't like this debate. Countering my own coumtryman is idiotic to me, forgetting the Armenian genocide is treason to my kin and Blood, i hope you understand my situation.

My advice, don't lose your soft power with idolizing One side and demonizing the other side. I don't hate Armenian people, Azeris built historical artifacts in Iran especially Isfahan with Armenian help. Azeris gave shelter to this namak be haram people when ruthless Ottomans killed them in cold blood. If they have a footprint in Isfahan then its because of Safavids mercy to this namak be haram people.


Dude Kurds are Sunnis. How did you Come to this cinclusion is debateable.
Sunnis can change into shia. Also not all Kurds are sunnis. In Turkey and Iran many Kurds are shia and alevi. In Iran I think 40-50% of Kurds are Shia. Further I'm just repeating what Iranologists have said about Safavids. I don't want to go off-topic, we can talk about this in Iranian section.
 
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Sunnis can change into shia. Also not all Kurds are sunnis. In Turkey and Iran many Kurds are shia and alevi. In Iran I think 40-50% of Kurds are Shia. Further I'm just repeating what Iranologists have said about Safavids.
It doesnt really matter who was their father of father of fathers bro, thing is they were Shias and their Army was by 99 percent Azeri people. Qizilbash is a Pure example for it. I know that Turkish language is not what Azeris spoke in the past as people of Caucaus and it was due to Mongol rule in Azerbaijan of Iran. An other example is alphabet of Persian language, the words are from Arabic origins. But are Persians Arabs? No Obviously not so we are Iranians with a different language.
 
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Iranians ruining yet another thread with their 5000 year old we-wuzzery. No different from the Israelis who think their state deserves to exist because of a Jewish kingdom thousands of years ago.
 
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You should stop killing them flies around here... Let them be.. They have their own truth and are almighty lmfao
Professor Savory who? A Muslim scholar who knows every aspect of Islam. What did he say about Karbala? Just curious
Oh wait he is not. Does Professor Savory take Prophet Muhammad to be as a true prophet? If he did he would be Muslim. What Professor knows about is squat. He knows better about the family than family itself wow what a logic.
Can we apply the same logic for current jews and say that they are not the desendants of Jacob and merely faked their ancestry when in reality they are the residents of Guals and Barbaric tribes who now claim to be Jews?
And Bible says they are GOG and MAGOG.
Remember i didn't say holy quran says it but Bible consider them to be Gog magog.
ABHRHAM (A.S) was not blue eyes nor green eyed. Then how come today???????
He wasn't Caucasian looking then how come today ???????
Are Khizari Jews really descendant of Abraham? I wonder what Professor got to say about that.
 
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Rarely seen such a disgusting, lying pic like him ... nothing but lies!
Azerbaijan derives from the Turkic People of the 'AZ' and means 'reign of the AZ' ... The first settlements of Turkish ethnic groups in the area of what is now Azerbaijan have been documented since the 2nd century - AZ an early Hun tribe! first of all!
Secondly! Temur Khan is yalls father - a Turk by blood - now please CRY AS LOUD AS YOU CAN ... they should wonder why 40% of the Iranian population consider themselves as Turkic... LMFAO!
Third: from the 4th century at the earliest, the Sabirs (Turks) settled in Azerbaijan, north of the state of Albania - which was already waging war against the Armenians!
F*** Iranian exiled Shah Gypsies


well almost half of asia is turk, most of iran, some of pakistan (previously known as khurasan) and some of afghanistan along with other states recieved independance from russia, most of the early settlements in the south asia are turkic based,
 
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well almost half of asia is turk, most of iran, some of pakistan (previously known as khurasan) and some of afghanistan along with other states recieved independance from russia, most of the early settlements in the south asia are turkic based,
Hahahahahahaha thz I had a very good one.


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


I'm dying.

Hahahahahahahahahaha








PS* not meant to derail the thread, just stating I find this post extremely funny.

That's all.

Thanks.
 
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Nonsense pan-turk theory and falsification of history. What's next? Chinese come originally from Chili because both have CH as first letters for their country?

Timur lame had mongolian ancestors, not turkic. Also Altaic hypothesis theory is debunked by most linguists nowadays, so Turkics are not related to both Cengiz and Timur who were Mongolians by blood.

This is not about exiled shahis or anything, this is about the ant-eater look-a-like president aliyev who is in pocket of Israel.
Its the same story with all of them, as every other post soviet "nation", they are all ancient people with a massive history, only God knows why noone heard of it before 1917 and the bolsheviks...
 
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