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No one can cut our border with Armenia.
Firstly: No, this is not the original borders

2ndly, there is nothing about the change of borders that you have shown above, so you put completely nonsense things in discussion. Read post #30

5. Armenia Already Agreed To A Regional Corridor Across Its Territory


The final fact to draw attention to is that the aforesaid ceasefire agreement’s last point stipulates the creation of a regional corridor across Armenia’s territory that’ll be protected of Russia’s Border Guard Service. Therefore, Azerbaijan’s desire to connect with its Nakhchivan Region across Armenia’s Syunik Province isn’t “imperialist” like some have claimed, but is the embodiment of regional geo-economic processes agreed to by all three parties during the Moscow-mediated ceasefire nearly three years ago.

 
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Firstly: No, this is not the original borders

2ndly, there is nothing about the change of borders that you have shown above, so you put in discussion completely nonsense things.
Do you think we are kid and you can fool us?

Your real plan is cutting our border with Armenia with occupying Armenian lands.
 
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Ah...a sort of weird historical claim to. Like Pakistan and Kashmir for example. Or Palestinians and the Holy Land,let's say.


Would you have agreed to sell your homeland? They feel like they finally liberated their lands after heavy persecutions and massacres in the early 20th century. How easy do you think it is for them to just say "no,we're leaving"?


You don't,Turks don't,some other muslims don't. Many people do though.

As for Israelis...guess who supports Israeli and gets support from Israel in return? Azerbaijan ;)



Too weak? They smashed the Azeris in the 90's war. They were outnumbered and outgunned and they won great victories. Even before 2020,in various small skirmishes and "wars" that last a few days,the Armenians would win.

And we're talking about a tiny country with a 3 or 3,5 million population total (Armenia and NKR together). Up until Pashinyan's rule and the war,they did pretty well.
Population of azeris in 6 districts was 95%
So not sure what are you talking about??
None of those people who came to live in ruins of 6 districts (mostly mined and in ruins) were local to area

Bringing ancient staff doesn't change anything

Armenians should have armend themselves rather then playing victim card

Israeli couldn't get any sympathy with victim card either; they used force to eject local population and defend it

If you are going to do ethnic cleansing be ready to defend your self when the victims come back with vengeance


Are you suggesting kashmiris aren't local to Kashmir??

Your argument stands for karbakh not the sourrounding 6 districts no matter how you spin it.. those were azeris populated areas

The discussion should start from those 6 region which had more area and more population then karbakh in 1990
 
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Estagfirullah, why would I think that? Are you illiterate, read the peace treaty for once, at least read post number 30, please.
I hope you are educated well, you should read peace treaty once again.

Because i don't see any thing like that in peace treaty.
 
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Population of azeris in 6 districts was 95%
So not sure what are you talking about??
None of those people who came to live in ruins of 6 districts (mostly mined and in ruins) were local to area

Bringing ancient staff doesn't change anything

Armenians should have armend themselves rather then playing victim card

Israeli couldn't get any sympathy with victim card either; they used force to eject local population and defend it

If you are going to do ethnic cleansing be ready to defend your self when the victims come back with vengeance
You claim NKR legally belongs to Azerbaijan. You say the UN has recognized it as such,right?

Are you suggesting kashmiris aren't local to Kashmir??

Your argument stands for karbakh not the sourrounding 6 districts no matter how you spin it.. those were azeris populated areas

The discussion should start from those 6 region which had more area and more population then karbakh in 1990
Azeris weren't local there. When did they come to those areas? 50 years ago? 100? 150? If you say "it doesn't matter,they are locals if they even had one parent live there",one could say "Well then,so are Israelis who came after the '50s. So are Israeli settlers who are in their 20s or 30s right now.

So what's the deal? Azeris came and settled in that area way later than Armenians had been living there. Are they locals? If they are,why can't that apply to Israelis in Palestine,to the Spanish in Andalusia,to the Indians who grabbed the biggest part of Kashmir?
 
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You claim NKR legally belongs to Azerbaijan. You say the UN has recognized it as such,right?


Azeris weren't local there. When did they come to those areas? 50 years ago? 100? 150? If you say "it doesn't matter,they are locals if they even had one parent live there",one could say "Well then,so are Israelis who came after the '50s. So are Israeli settlers who are in their 20s or 30s right now.

So what's the deal? Azeris came and settled in that area way later than Armenians had been living there. Are they locals? If they are,why can't that apply to Israelis in Palestine,to the Spanish in Andalusia,to the Indians who grabbed the biggest part of Kashmir?
Agree current isrealis are local so it wouldn't be fair to dismantle tele Aviv and would amount at ethnic cleansing if Palestinians do so
It has be two state solution

Same way it was ethnic cleansing what Turks did in 1800 and Armenians did in 1990s

But azeris retaking their own region doesn't account to any war crime since first those districts were mostly empty and second non of the people were born or raised there

It's pretty simple unless you have screw loss in your mind

Pretty sure non of Palestinians solution has kick out all the isrealis out in it because that will be wrong

Just how what Turks and Armenians did was wrong!

Regardless my advise to Armenians is if you play bold then b ready to fight

Allah give victory to our Azeri bros.
War is pretty much over
It's just cleaning op
 
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Same way it was ethnic cleansing what Turks did in 1800 and Armenians did in 1990s
With the difference that Armenians were brutally killed in the hundreds of thousands,left to die in long marches or work batallions and forced to flee on a way larger scale. And it happened in the early 20th century,not 19th century. A lot of Azeri villages evacuated on their own rather before Armenians even got there. And the scale was a lot smaller.

What Tel-Aviv? If you consider Israelis local even if they arrived there after the 50s or 60s,then it's the majority of them. Then then came the settlers,they had children. Are they locals too or not?

But azeris retaking their own region doesn't account to any war crime since first those districts were mostly empty and second non of the people were born or raised there
It's their own region on paper only. Historically and culturally it had for literally,thousands of years non-stop,been part of Armenian principalities,kingdoms,Villayets and autonomous principalities,then taken over by Russia,then the Bolsheviks gave it to Azerbaijan. Yes,the whole area,the 6 districts that you keep talking about too.

Did you know that a UN resolution actually gave all that part of land to Israelis? Now,was that legal? Was it illegal? For the Arabs it was illegal,they could not accept Israelis given a bit more than 50% of the land just like that. But the UN decided that. So was it good or bad? Was it legal or illegal? If Arabs won the 1948 War,would that have made them the bad guys for settling in terrority recognized by the UN as Jewish and not theirs?

What about Kosovo? Important part of Serbia since the medieval times,slowly by Albanians after the 17th century with Ottoman blessing. Later Albanians were kicked out at a big part. Then were invited back in. Then slowly became the majority under Tito's rule of Yugoslavia. Kosovo was given to the Albanians by the Americans and the international community,even though it was part of Serbia. Was that right or wrong? If it's part of Serbia,then why allow Albanians to declare independence unilaterally and treat NKR as a different case. For example,if Serbs say they want to liberate their land of Kosovo and Metohija,Turks say "no,no". When Azeris say "we want to liberate our land of Qarabagh they shout "yes,yes".


Politics. It's late. I'm tired.
 
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With the difference that Armenians were brutally killed in the hundreds of thousands,left to die in long marches or work batallions and forced to flee on a way larger scale. And it happened in the early 20th century,not 19th century. A lot of Azeri villages evacuated on their own rather before Armenians even got there. And the scale was a lot smaller.

What Tel-Aviv? If you consider Israelis local even if they arrived there after the 50s or 60s,then it's the majority of them. Then then came the settlers,they had children. Are they locals too or not?


It's their own region on paper only. Historically and culturally it had for literally,thousands of years non-stop,been part of Armenian principalities,kingdoms,Villayets and autonomous principalities,then taken over by Russia,then the Bolsheviks gave it to Azerbaijan. Yes,the whole area,the 6 districts that you keep talking about too.

Did you know that a UN resolution actually gave all that part of land to Israelis? Now,was that legal? Was it illegal? For the Arabs it was illegal,they could not accept Israelis given a bit more than 50% of the land just like that. But the UN decided that. So was it good or bad? Was it legal or illegal? If Arabs won the 1948 War,would that have made them the bad guys for settling in terrority recognized by the UN as Jewish and not theirs?

What about Kosovo? Important part of Serbia since the medieval times,slowly by Albanians after the 17th century with Ottoman blessing. Later Albanians were kicked out at a big part. Then were invited back in. Then slowly became the majority under Tito's rule of Yugoslavia. Kosovo was given to the Albanians by the Americans and the international community,even though it was part of Serbia. Was that right or wrong? If it's part of Serbia,then why allow Albanians to declare independence unilaterally and treat NKR as a different case. For example,if Serbs say they want to liberate their land of Kosovo and Metohija,Turks say "no,no". When Azeris say "we want to liberate our land of Qarabagh they shout "yes,yes".


Politics. It's late. I'm tired.
Blah blah blah
What was the population of these 6 districts in 1990 and were these people living their for generations??! It's not that complicated

International law and UN were created for reason to end this stupid argument of what happened 10,000 or 200 years ago.

No one cares about Solomon and old stories or what happened 100-200 or 1000 years a ago.

If you want to say no I want people to care then learn from Israel bring a gun as might is also right
 
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I hope you are educated well, you should read peace treaty once again.

Because i don't see any thing like that in peace treaty.
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We, President of the Republic of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev, Prime Minister of the Republic of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan and President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin, state the following:
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6. The Republic of Armenia shall return the Kalbajar District to the Republic of Azerbaijan by November 15, 2020, and the Lachin District by December 1, 2020. The Lachin Corridor (5 km wide), which will provide a connection between Nagorno-Karabakh and Armenia while not passing through the territory of Shusha, shall remain under the control of the Russian Federation peacemaking forces.

As agreed by the Parties, within the next three years, a plan will be outlined for the construction of a new route via the Lachin Corridor, to provide a connection between Nagorno-Karabakh and Armenia, and the Russian peacemaking forces shall be subsequently relocated to protect the route. The Republic of Azerbaijan shall guarantee the security of persons, vehicles and cargo moving along the Lachin Corridor in both directions.

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9. All economic and transport connections in the region shall be unblocked. The Republic of Armenia shall guarantee the security of transport connections between the western regions of the Republic of Azerbaijan and the Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic in order to arrange unobstructed movement of persons, vehicles and cargo in both directions. The Border Guard Service of the Russian Federal Security Service shall be responsible for overseeing the transport connections.

Subject to agreement between the Parties, the construction of new transport communications to link the Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic with the western regions of Azerbaijan will be ensured.

 
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Well done my brothers great to see the Azeri nation united again. I remember the painful memories from the 1980's to 1990's and the Azeri setbacks.

It was heartwarming to see them utterly destroyed forever. The Khojaly massacre was never forgotten and now there is ultimate victory.
 
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Well done my brothers great to see the Azeri nation united again. I remember the painful memories from the 1980's to 1990's and the Azeri setbacks.

It was heartwarming to see them utterly destroyed forever. The Khojaly massacre was never forgotten and now there is ultimate victory.
I'm facepalming on this post and I'm like "you too waz?"

Oyyy veeey
 
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I'm facepalming on this post and I'm like "you too waz?"

Oyyy veeey
It's a problem because noone including Armenians (Armenia) themselves recognize them as independent

This is very bad..they should have accepted or integrated them way back
 
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