Awami League led government's procurement plan for BANGLADESH MILITARY

[dbc]

And yes, we are capable for buying some F-22s aswel but the Russian jets are now superior to them... So, currently we're not looking for any US-made jets at this moment but other military products...

Raquib, I may not be able to tell the difference between an F-22 and a flying mule but even a military aviation dunce like me finds the above statement laughable.

 

[BanglaBhoot]

Point taken, Bangladesh's location between China and India is not ideal. But realistically does Bangladesh stand a chance against either of the two in an armed conflict. Hi tech military hardware may only delay the inevitable. A better approach is perhaps to focus on better relations with all the important regional players in South Asia including Pakistan.
Ideally, get these countries to invest in Bangladesh and so a stable progressive Bangladesh is in the best interest of all concerned. It may not be a bad idea for Bangladesh to take advantage of regional rivalry between China and India.

Bangladesh faces few difficulties in its relations with China. The main obstacle to peace in South Asia remains India. A strong BD military would still not be able to defeat India directly but the repercussions for New Delhi would be devastating and massive as its entire eastern part would become instantaneously unstable and Kashmir would look tame in case of such a regional conflict. India would also not be able to effectively counter challenges from either Pakistan or China in event of a war with Bangladesh. An effective BD military deterrent would make war less likely as the biggest loser in the long run would be India.

BD has always stressed good relations with India but that sentiment has never been reciprocated. BD would be happy to get investment from China and Pakistan but India's focus on transit and its regime of trade barriers will keep Dhaka distrustful of its nearest neighbour.

Playing India off China and vice versa would simply play into the hands of the US and make things even more complicated. This suggestion does have possibilities but there are no statesman in BD to carry through such a policy.

 

[dbc]

Bangladesh faces few difficulties in its relations with China. The main obstacle to peace in South Asia remains India.

Is it the administration or public opinion in India that is not desirous of good relations with Bangladesh? I find this strange considering India played such a pivotal role in the formation of Bangladesh. As for military procurement, I consider this to be a lesser priority for any nation particularly a nation like Bangladesh that is still in its infancy. In the absence of an immediate threat I’d much rather the money was invested on internal development instead of it being spent on purchasing military hardware from a foreign arms manufacturer. Of course the prospect of using this money to build a defense industry in Bangladesh is much more enticing. At least you are creating jobs and developing an infrastructure for future business opportunities.

 

[BanglaBhoot]

Is it the administration or public opinion in India that is not desirous of good relations with Bangladesh? I find this strange considering India played such a pivotal role in the formation of Bangladesh. As for military procurement, I consider this to be a lesser priority for any nation particularly a nation like Bangladesh that is still in its infancy. In the absence of an immediate threat I’d much rather the money was invested on internal development instead of it being spent on purchasing military hardware from a foreign arms manufacturer. Of course the prospect of using this money to build a defense industry in Bangladesh is much more enticing. At least you are creating jobs and developing an infrastructure for future business opportunities.

It is the political administration in India that has maintained a domineering attitude towards Bangladesh. India assisted in the formation of Bangladesh provided it remained a vassal state to India. The idea of a defence industry in Bangladesh sounds like the way forward.

 

[Raquib]

Raquib, I may not be able to tell the difference between an F-22 and a flying mule but even a military aviation dunce like me finds the above statement laughable.

well, its natural 4 a "military aviation dunce"(or a military dunce) to find it laughable. What are you refering as a flying mule?? the Sukhoi fighter jets?? delete that line or I may not but the others are surely gonna laugh at you behind the monitors!! You should keep it in mind that every US-made products are not the best in nowadays...

 

[Patriot]

Point taken, Bangladesh's location between China and India is not ideal. But realistically does Bangladesh stand a chance against either of the two in an armed conflict. Hi tech military hardware may only delay the inevitable. A better approach is perhaps to focus on better relations with all the important regional players in South Asia including Pakistan.
Ideally, get these countries to invest in Bangladesh and so a stable progressive Bangladesh is in the best interest of all concerned. It may not be a bad idea for Bangladesh to take advantage of regional rivalry between China and India.

It's called minimum deterrence.Economic strength is directly connected to defense..You cannot become economic powerhouse without strong military unless you have protection from states like US or your country is in Europe.If Pakistan did not have strong military India would have performed Surgical Strikes immediately after Mumbai Saga.

 

[khaled_m_ali]

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[khaled_m_ali]

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[Raquib]

In a purely ground army, Bangladesh Army is far superior to the Indian Army; the Indians could be easily pushed back and we could even capture some Indian territory along the Indian front (including the Shiliguri Corridor to cut off the 'Seven Sisters to create a buffer zone. But we will have to face them in the air; that is why Bangladesh is getting advanced weapons such as SAMs, guided missile frigates and atack submarines to defend our weak areas. India is actually just full of hot air, something our Pakistani friends know too well.

Brother, I read it somewhere on the bdmilitary forum that the AL govt has already canceled the procurement of SAMs for the BAF... well, i'm just confused...

 

[Jihad]

Is it the administration or public opinion in India that is not desirous of good relations with Bangladesh? I find this strange considering India played such a pivotal role in the formation of Bangladesh. As for military procurement, I consider this to be a lesser priority for any nation particularly a nation like Bangladesh that is still in its infancy. In the absence of an immediate threat I’d much rather the money was invested on internal development instead of it being spent on purchasing military hardware from a foreign arms manufacturer. Of course the prospect of using this money to build a defense industry in Bangladesh is much more enticing. At least you are creating jobs and developing an infrastructure for future business opportunities.

Trust me, myself or any other person living in Pakistan or Bangladesh.
We'd like for our countries to entirely focus on our economies and on the well-being for our people.
But the fact of the matter is, it's just not possible, Bangladesh MUST maintain a credible deterrence in order for it to not be pushed around or treated like a vassal state by India.
Every big country or regional power desires to project it's power across the region or atleast across her own borders, and Bangladesh is often the victim of India's powerplay.
I personally think Bangladesh's policy should focus on a deterrence that would make India think a second before trying to do something stupid on Bangladeshi soil, while at the same time, increasing and continuing to develop her economic infrastructure.
Same goes for Pakistan, it would've been an Israel-Libanon or Israel-Gaza like situation if it wasn't for Pakistan to have a minimum amount of deterrence to keep India out.
The people representing Bangladesh in the government simply have no choice but to make good and sometimes expensive strategic purchases, afterall, what's 4-5 % economic growth worth for years if Bangladesh's infrastructure was destroyed or the Indian army marched straight into their country?
What would be better, to sustain a slightly lesser growth and at the same time being able to defend your country, or to give up one and go for another.
Pakistan and Bangladesh are masters at using what is at their disposal, even with the minimum amount of money they are able to do something to ensure their survival, and these countries have my utmost respect for that, both my own country Pakistan and our neighbour Bangladesh.

 

[BanglaBhoot]

Brother, I read it somewhere on the bdmilitary forum that the AL govt has already canceled the procurement of SAMs for the BAF... well, i'm just confused...

Nothing to be confused about. For the AL the nations security is of no importance.

 

[Raquib]

Nothing to be confused about. For the AL the nations security is of no importance.

...but India.

 

[Raquib]

Bangladesh and Pakistan could jointly embark upon breaking new grounds on defense technology. These two nations could be very close friends if you focus on it. In addition to buying Russian or US-made products, we should be habituated to using our self-made products. And another thing thats eating away at me is AL is looking for the things which India already has... eg. the Su-30 and Mi-24/35 Hind attack helicopter... In case of war, its quite demoralizing to fight with the same stuffs... So, we should look for something which our enemy does not even have!! Correct me if Im wrong...

 

[dbc]

well, its natural 4 a "military aviation dunce"(or a military dunce) to find it laughable. What are you refering as a flying mule?? the Sukhoi fighter jets?? delete that line or I may not but the others are surely gonna laugh at you behind the monitors!! You should keep it in mind that every US-made products are not the best in nowadays...

A mule is a mule (not a Sukhoi) you can't turn it into a stallion no matter how hard you stroke it. By the way I think the Su-30 looks cool, but I don't think it will last very long in combat against an F-22 at least that is my conclusion from reading some of the posts on this forum. I and the other members may be wrong please enlighten us.

 

[dbc]

Trust me, myself or any other person living in Pakistan or Bangladesh.
We'd like for our countries to entirely focus on our economies and on the well-being for our people.
But the fact of the matter is, it's just not possible, Bangladesh MUST maintain a credible deterrence in order for it to not be pushed around or treated like a vassal state by India.
Every big country or regional power desires to project it's power across the region or atleast across her own borders, and Bangladesh is often the victim of India's powerplay.
I personally think Bangladesh's policy should focus on a deterrence that would make India think a second before trying to do something stupid on Bangladeshi soil, while at the same time, increasing and continuing to develop her economic infrastructure.
Same goes for Pakistan, it would've been an Israel-Libanon or Israel-Gaza like situation if it wasn't for Pakistan to have a minimum amount of deterrence to keep India out.
The people representing Bangladesh in the government simply have no choice but to make good and sometimes expensive strategic purchases, afterall, what's 4-5 % economic growth worth for years if Bangladesh's infrastructure was destroyed or the Indian army marched straight into their country?
What would be better, to sustain a slightly lesser growth and at the same time being able to defend your country, or to give up one and go for another.
Pakistan and Bangladesh are masters at using what is at their disposal, even with the minimum amount of money they are able to do something to ensure their survival, and these countries have my utmost respect for that, both my own country Pakistan and our neighbour Bangladesh.

Understood, I promise to shut up now