Australian woman killed by police in US after dialing 911 to report disturbance

[Hamartia Antidote]

Oh really ! Have you followed reports of most of the "trigger happy" incidents? The areas were not trigger happy , police had received 911 phone calls , they dashed to the spot and shot any random suspect.

Yes, pretty much every high profile case involves a shooting in some poor high crime area inner city neighborhood.

As somebody who grew up and lived in a major city for ~30 years I never witnessed a police officer actually holding a weapon in his hand (and I have seen people being arrested). The cops in my area were not trigger happy. But my area wasn't a poor area (it wasn't a rich one either). If I traveled to the south side of the city where the poor are concentrated things were much much different. There non-police shootings were a pretty common occurrence. It would be on the news almost every night. If you looked at the crime map of the city it was heavily skewed towards that end.

Homicide chart
BTW downtown (where all the skyscrapers are) is where the word "Boston" is. Relatively quiet. However the section considered the "inner city" ( http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=inner+city ) is actually significantly to the south. Nobody goes there unless they have to. In fact I'm quite sure plenty of people who have lived in Boston their entire lives have NEVER ventured into this area.

 

[jhungary]

Firstly , not many of us knew about his religion.
Secondly, when a report is about a cop , no one pays attention to his faith and race , black or white.
Thridly, even after knowing he is a muslim,we people would take him more as a cop and would not consider it a terror attack because we dont assume terrorists are picked for doing cops work.

What point are you trying to make here? Are you implying that any muslim who kills someone is a terrorist hether a cop or a janitor? Or terrorists are only those who are muslims?

An atheist or non muslim cop shoots someone then noone will even consider labelling him a terrorist and here you are saying since he was a muslim there could have been a possibility of this attack to be a terrorist one? Or people should have also screamed a terror attack as he was a muslim?

Do you realize how mentally disturbed you sound?

First, the terrorist bit is a joke, it is not directed at you, so I can understand if you cannot get the drift behind the joke. If you do want to get why I said that, go back and read the whole post and the post I quoted.

Second, even so if this is what I think of a terrorist act, this is not the first time a Muslim government employee go on a terrorist spree, it happened before, the term "TERRORISM" is not related to religion or race, but the action of a person, no where did I say all Muslim are terrorist or something like that in my passage, if the cop shot that woman for no apparent reason, but solely to inspire fear to the public, cop or no cop, Muslim or not Muslim, that act itself is a terrorist act regardless of who shot who and what is the official motivation of the shooting.

I think you are correct. He was the first Somali-American on the Minneapolis Police force and the Mayor even announced it. There is a big Somali population in Minneapolis and of course I'm sure they'd love to have more connections with the community. He has an incident with another woman 911 caller and they let it slide because of his background. Now another is dead.

I think the city of Minneapolis have something to answer as to why they are keeping this particular person on the beat, even after 3 (I was wrong before, 2 this year 1 last) complaints about excessive use of force and assaults. Those are not small charges, and he is a rookie no less.

The problem is that he (Noor) have a tendency to react in a hostile fashion, and he should have been force to take administrative leave or at least place in a non-front line capacity (like 911 call centre) but neither was done and he was on the beat and on the street carrying weapon, this smelled fishy if you asked me. In Fact, depending on the 2016 complaints, I am pretty sure he is still under probation at that period and a civil complaint should have at least initiate a internal review and he should have not be a Police Officer had he was complained during his probation period.

 

[Dai Toruko]

The police in the US seem to have a free pass to shoot whomever they want, black, latino, or caucasian from Australia. Even the flimsiest of excuses is not bad enough to them for taking lives. In case of doubt police officers are to be trusted more than most citizens with a clean record. Actually, some goverment officials even try to criminalize a movement like Black Lives Matter, because they dare to point out that the police violence is excessive and unjustified.

 

[patero]

i hate australians with passion , i celebrated this last night with a champagne .

You have something in common with these Australians you have grievance with: you are all human beings equally deserving of respect and empathy. Yes you may have encountered racism whilst you lived in Australia, but two wrongs do not make a right.

Remember the healing power of forgiveness.

 

[Gothic]

You have something in common with these Australians you have grievance with: you are all human beings equally deserving of respect and empathy. Yes you may have encountered racism whilst you lived in Australia, but two wrongs do not make a right.

Remember the healing power of forgiveness.

well , to be entirely honest , i hate the entire white race , australian , american , european. any sane middle easterner who's lived there for even a couple of months would quickly realize how we are scape goats in their fights with black people in america and in places like australia dumb pacific islanders and to a lesser degree aboriginal people . there's no pleasure and forgiving in the dirty tricks white people use on you.

and of course there are always the limp , lame jews visually everywhere who enjoy trolling their fights. and i'm not talking about the iraq war just mere societal issues. australians are disgusting , they're worse than the most hic of texan rednecks !

Remember the healing power of forgiveness.

well , maybe jesus taught you to turn your cheeks when someone slaps you .. but he should have instead taught you to not make fun of people for stupid minor reasons , that's more sensible .

 

[Gothic]

of course i was talking about any sane , well to do middle easterner . not those poor immigrants who are blinded by the hair color of your women

well at least this australian woman experienced true platonic love in non other than the united states ! unlike the kind of love she would experience in australia at the bar

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Unless they employ blind officers as part of some positive affirmation programme how exactly would they mistake a blond female for a black man?

It actually happened... US cops slammed (and broke her arm and than arrested her for resisting arrest) a 13 year old 5'3 skinny black girl.. coz they suspected her of being a 6ft 300 pound bald black man..

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

It actually happened... US cops slammed (and broke her arm and than arrested her for resisting arrest) a 13 year old 5'3 skinny black girl.. coz they suspected her of being a 6ft 300 pound bald black man..

I don't remember this...can you provide a link to this? Is this the girl on the cell phone?

 

[Mugwop]

Western atheists are nuttier than westboro church goers.
Bad police behavior must be condemned but western atheists love to profile and label others as criminals based on their color and religion.

 

[Chhatrapati]

the nigga cop knew perfectly who to avenge on , a racist australian with the most possible redneck accent on earth

Ironically you used the N word to justify a crime committed by a black officer. And giving a false victimhood to the cop, as black man killed a white women.
Slow clap!

 

[Dai Toruko]

The police in America are out of control, and their Gestapo tactics blindly supported by right-wing conservatives. Shoot first, then sort it out later, seems to be the extent of their training. How many more innocent deaths will it take, before cops are held accountable?

 

[gambit]

The police in America are out of control, and their Gestapo tactics blindly supported by right-wing conservatives. Shoot first, then sort it out later, seems to be the extent of their training. How many more innocent deaths will it take, before cops are held accountable?

Do not associate our police with the well known brutality of yours.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Why give it a religious twist, a police officer is a police officer, the discussion is about the urgency to pull the trigger multiple times on women and children, especially when it s a domestic dispute call and not a gang/street war.

That Cop was investigated for Forcibly Detain a woman before, and that investigation is still under investigation, he should NOT be on the beat with that charge hanging over his head.

The problem I suggest is that he was released for temporary duty (RTD) because he is a minority and possibly Muslim and the line needed his service, the call that trigger the shooting is a domestic violence call, which mean he would have been dispatched by the control room.

If he is a normal cop, that does not process unique skill, he would probably on administration leave, the Minnesota Police Department need to tell people why he was allowed on the street when he have 2 outstanding complaints for false imprisonment, battery, assault, negligence, and violating civil rights.

but yes, this news have been quite rampant in Oz because she Ruszczyk, was considered middle-upper class, and this have apparently have no reason or out of the blue.

The full detail of the case probably need a clearer picture before anyone can be commented tho.



The people who started this thread probably have no idea the police officer is a Muslim to begin with, let alone the detail of the case, they sees the headline and think "oh, American Cops shot another innocent, let's put it on PDF...) Strange no one started to scream "terrorist attack" because a Muslim shot and kill a white woman. Regardless if he was a cop on duty or not.

Anyway, we need more info on this, for example, why Noor was back on the line when he have 2 outstanding complaints over his head, and all that he IS a rookie. No offence to the Muslim here but I think he got some special treatment because of that, otherwise if a White Cop or Asian Cop with2 y ears under and got 2 serious complaints over their head, he would have put into Administrative leave already. He is still on the line for a reason.

Also we need to know what motivate him to shoot Justine Ruszczyk, early report suggest she came out of her home toward the police car with a mobile phone on her hand. But that may not be contribute to anything.

In short, we need more info.

 

[jhungary]

Why give it a religious twist, a police officer is a police officer, the discussion is about the urgency to pull the trigger multiple times on women and children, especially when it s a domestic dispute call and not a gang/street war.

I was not the one that played the religion card... I was replying to a person who in turn reply to a joke I made to another member from where he does not know why I said what I said to begin with.

However, the religion card is actually on the table, because if he is a normal officer (Not what he is, a Somalian Muslim) he would most likely being suspended or at least send to the rear because of the 3 complaints for less than 2 years experience, he would not have been on the front line, which in turn shoot this woman. I know cop with 20 + years experience having a complaint out of the blue, he would still have been suspended or if his rank allowed, took a job back at station. I cannot figure out how a rookie cop with less than 2 years on the job could otherwise still be allowed on the street when he received 3 complaints over 2 years. That's abnormal if you ask me or any police officer.

There are something the City of Minneapolis have to explain, both the circumstance leading to the shooting and the reason why they retain Noor on the front line. Even if this shoot is legit, the question is still there as to why he was left on the front line when he was just a rookie and already received 3 complaints over a less than 2 years career.

PS, regardless of whether the cop shoot that poor woman is legit, the city is going to cop a punch on this, and I can see the family will sue the City of Minneapolis and they will get a wad of cash in return, regardless on whether or not the shoot is legit.

 

[Gomig-21]

The problem is that he (Noor) have a tendency to react in a hostile fashion, and he should have been force to take administrative leave or at least place in a non-front line capacity (like 911 call centre)

Very true. But not a call center since that's a totally different skill set, but definitely a desk job, if not a paid administrative leave until the investigation is completed. You are right, though.

So far they're saying that when they showed up, she came running to the driver's side and as she approached, they heard a loud noise or bang and this guy sitting in the passenger seat fired his weapon across the front of the driving cop. The guy freaked out and thought she was either firing a gun or it came from her so he reacted.

They're also saying that dispatch always gets the information from the caller and lets the units know who is the caller so they can distinguish them when they show up. But the dispatcher never gave them that info so when they showed up and saw her in her pajamas, they had no idea she was the caller. Once they realized they messed up, they got out and performed CPR and tried to save her but she was shot in the abdomen and didn't last long, unfortunately.

As somebody who grew up and lived in a major city for ~30 years I never witnessed a police officer actually holding a weapon in his hand (and I have seen people being arrested). The cops in my area were not trigger happy. But my area wasn't a poor area (it wasn't a rich one either). If I traveled to the south side of the city where the poor are concentrated things were much much different. There non-police shootings were a pretty common occurrence. It would be on the news almost every night. If you looked at the crime map of the city it was heavily skewed towards that end.

What are you doing living in my city? I've actually been through Dorchester many times in the past 32 years. Although you know what they say about "Lynn Lynn the city of sin, you never come out the way you went in."