Attack on PNS Mehran Base - PAF Faisal Base

[T-Faz]

are you serious??? why wouldnt they? Doesnt it suit their interests 100%

they want Pakistan isolated, and Chinese defence cooperation with Pakistan causes them much discomfort and upset stomach problems.

I am very serious and you must be realistic in your assessment too.

The Indians do not have the capability, the links and the audacity to go attack a Pakistani base where Chinese and Americans are based.

Any such move could easily be linked back to them based on the groups being utilized and the use of weaponry.

Its not a simple matter, getting Uzbeks, Afghans to collaborate with the locals who are affiliated with Harkat-ul-Islam, TTP and LEJ.

The mission was to kill the Chinese and Americans and also damage the naval assets there.

It won't help us to blame India when it clearly is not them and everything points towards our Jihadi assets.

 

[huzihaidao12]

Yes, I know that the Indian intelligence agencies have activities in Pakistan, but, according to available information. Do not underestimate the intelligence capabilities needed for the special operations, which requires a very deep intelligence, is very familiar with Pakistan, around the base, the base of internal and timing. India has not the ability.

 

[huzihaidao12]

Terrorists also do not have this ability, I am the first to rule out those terrorist, if not get external support, any terrorist can not.

 

[humanfirst]

they want Pakistan isolated, and Chinese defence cooperation with Pakistan causes them much discomfort and upset stomach problems.

India or U.S attacking china through proxies in pakistani soil will only enhance the cooparation between china and pakistan,instead of isolating pakistan.

 

[T-Faz]

Lets be honest here, no nation in the world would want to approve an attack by proxy on Americans and Chinese.

This would have so many repercussions that it would be unbelievable.

The anti-state elements that are found within Pak's institutes have greatly increased since the inception of Pakistan. These Jihadi elements have sworn their allegiance to their religion over the state and they will hurt the nation as and when the see fit.

The internal elements probably pick targets based upon their orders, this was probably scouted some time ago and a plan hatched. The local clerics are helpful in getting the message across to the groups who are capable of attacking, the groups then bring in the people according to skill and the plan is worked upon.

Their training is aided by ex or serving members of our armed forces, the logistical routes are also prepared for weaponry to arrive and the plan is implemented once the time has come, the terrorists take shelter in local Madrassa's before launching their attack.

The cancer of Jihadi extremism has seeped so deep into the nation that it is the biggest threat to this state.

Lets see if our establishment wants to tackle it.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Because China and America are NOT dumb, they will find out eventually.

That will only work against us.

Also, terrorists attacking Chinese in Pakistan is NOT going to deter China at all, thats some seriously immature way of thinking you are crediting us with, so much adventurism, smells Pakistani.

if I look at your statement in Isolation then I agree but sadly I have very bad experience and I tell you why.
see my sir name?
think Balochistan and then think BLA
ring any bells?

this is a terrorist organisation your country supports something that fugitive bramdagh Bughti so proudly announces in his speeches and interviews…The BLA & company has a policy of kidnapping and killing foreign workers and have killed many Chinese.

another case in point is IRA. which was supported by Americans although they claim to be bosom buddies of the British. And they knew it that British intelligence knew who was funding IRA. I can quote many more but that will be taking the debate off topic. Point is, the whole idea and premise of covert operations is never to be found out and use the ambiguity, confusion and lack of evidence to deny any knowledge of such thing. Both Americans and Chinese have their stakes in this issue anyway and
WE WILL FIND OUT the culprits.

I hope its not the Indians, I really do because that will really mess up a lot of things. Our peace process is like 1 step forward and 5 steps backwards.

So….
This all happens my friend, the . state policies are not that simple for us mere mortals to understand what they say and what they do are two different things all together.

 

[sab]

Lets be honest here, no nation in the world would want to approve an attack by proxy on Americans and Chinese.

This would have so many repercussions that it would be unbelievable.

The anti-state elements that are found within Pak's institutes have greatly increased since the inception of Pakistan. These Jihadi elements have sworn their allegiance to their religion over the state and they will hurt the nation as and when the see fit.

The internal elements probably pick targets based upon their orders, this was probably scouted some time ago and a plan hatched. The local clerics are helpful in getting the message across to the groups who are capable of attacking, the groups then bring in the people according to skill and the plan is worked upon.

Their training is aided by ex or serving members of our armed forces, the logistical routes are also prepared for weaponry to arrive and the plan is implemented once the time has come, the terrorists take shelter in local Madrassa's before launching their attack.

The cancer of Jihadi extremism has seeped so deep into the nation that it is the biggest threat to this state.

Lets see if our establishment wants to tackle it.

It is nice to see atleast some people are trying to counter the Jihadi propaganda machines which are infesting PDF, nowadays. Thanks for your neutrality which most of us lack.

The Jihadis have a motive that is Pakistan should wage war against America-Israel-India. When Pakistan government is not doing that they are bent upon capturing powerin Pakistan. They have their own way to reach their goal, that is threat. If any reason, there is more problems in the region, say a foreign invasion, you must be sure these Jihadis will try their best to capture Pakistan claiming they are the sole defender of the nations. It is a fqact, some Pakistani members have acknowledged too, that there are supporters of these terrorists in PDF too who are busy in distract the attention of the people from the root cause of the problem.

 

[huzihaidao12]

First, a number of points.

1, all the analysis is based on the existing Pakistan news.

2, all of our analysis is subjective, everyone has their own methods, my method is exclusion

3, to determine suspicious targets, the United States, India, Israel, terrorists. I did not put China on the table, because the Indians always imagined too much, not worth to a serious.

4, if it is joint action, it is pointless to discuss, we assume that he is not a joint action, we are talking about a single action, at least, only one party dominates.


Then implemented to the exclusion for those who suspect object.


First, forget Israel, they already have enough trouble, do not give yourself an additional big trouble.


Second, the terrorists do not have this ability, I have already explained, from a military accomplishment, intelligence, and equipment, have not had this ability. Even there is a careful plan. Dive base, designated attack target P3C, destroying targets, trying to kidnap Chinese people as hostages, in order to spread the attention of security guards to create opportunities for escape, and finally succeeded in escaping. This line is so clear, religious fanaticism of the terrorists do not have this ability, and even I think they do not have the will. If there is no less of Israel possible objects, my first rule out the terrorists.

Then, the suspect in India and the United States. We first have a look to India.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Lets be honest here, no nation in the world would want to approve an attack by proxy on Americans and Chinese.

This would have so many repercussions that it would be unbelievable.

The anti-state elements that are found within Pak's institutes have greatly increased since the inception of Pakistan. These Jihadi elements have sworn their allegiance to their religion over the state and they will hurt the nation as and when the see fit.

The internal elements probably pick targets based upon their orders, this was probably scouted some time ago and a plan hatched. The local clerics are helpful in getting the message across to the groups who are capable of attacking, the groups then bring in the people according to skill and the plan is worked upon.

Their training is aided by ex or serving members of our armed forces, the logistical routes are also prepared for weaponry to arrive and the plan is implemented once the time has come, the terrorists take shelter in local Madrassa's before launching their attack.

The cancer of Jihadi extremism has seeped so deep into the nation that it is the biggest threat to this state.

Lets see if our establishment wants to tackle it.

far fetched but still one angle and I wont dissmiss anything untill proven otherwise
the Methodology is too differrnt to any high profile terrorist attack which had a TTP/ AL Qaeda signature , the only resemblance is attack on Sri Lanken team

in both cases the core assailants differed the journey to meet up with 72 virgins and escaped.

 

[T-Faz]

far fetched but still one angle and I wont dissmiss anything untill proven otherwise
the Methodology is too differrnt to any high profile terrorist attack which had a TTP/ AL Qaeda signature , the only resemblance is attack on Sri Lanken team

in both cases the core assailants differed the journey to meet up with 72 virgins and escaped.

What else do you want for proof?

They have picked up a cleric from Faisalabad, Dr Usman's brother has also been apprehended.

The Tableeghi Jamaat has been banned from entering Cantts and Defence areas.

Naval officers have pointed towards internal help.

Its a Jihadi mission all the way and the people involved are all from Jihadi groups, local and asiatic.

 

[Hammy007]

the attack wouldnt have been without inside help

the attack was carried out not by militants but by professional army trained people

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

It is not the issue of someone contesting the jihadi terrorists' ideology.

It is a question of survival.

It is time for common Pakistanis to take stock and 'rework' Pakistan and save it from the daily mayhem that it is suffering.

Why should the common Pakistani suffer not only by being killed and why should they be a butt of ridicule?

I am being serious.

The world is advising and commenting on Pakistan in most derogatory terms.

What has the common Pakistan done to deserve this?

Are the Pakistanis any less than anyone in the world?

Have they no right to live with honour and safety?

Who are these terrorists to hold Pakistan at ransom on their interpretation of religion?

 

[sab]

First, a number of points.

1, all the analysis is based on the existing Pakistan news.

2, all of our analysis is subjective, everyone has their own methods, my method is exclusion

3, to determine suspicious targets, the United States, India, Israel, terrorists. I did not put China on the table, because the Indians always imagined too much, not worth to a serious.

4, if it is joint action, it is pointless to discuss, we assume that he is not a joint action, we are talking about a single action, at least, only one party dominates.


Then implemented to the exclusion for those who suspect object.


First, forget Israel, they already have enough trouble, do not give yourself an additional big trouble.


Second, the terrorists do not have this ability, I have already explained, from a military accomplishment, intelligence, and equipment, have not had this ability. Even here there is a careful plan to sneak into to determine the target to complete the goal to try to spread Chinese hostages kidnapped Note to escape, and finally succeeded in escaping. This line is so clear, religious fanaticism of the terrorists do not have this ability, and even I think they do not have the will. If there is no more possible target of Israel, my first rule out the terrorists.

Then, the suspect in India and the United States. We first have a look to India.

Terrorists dont have the capability? I dont think you keep track of events. The attackers needed training similar to special force of a country, and they can easily have that. Weapons, no problem at all. Inside information- There may be people in PN rank who have sympathy to the cause of Jihad. Pointing fingers to US , India or any other country is just divertinf people's attention.

 

[Paan Singh]

First, a number of points.

1, all the analysis is based on the existing Pakistan news.

2, all of our analysis is subjective, everyone has their own methods, my method is exclusion

3, to determine suspicious targets, the United States, India, Israel, terrorists. I did not put China on the table, because the Indians always imagined too much, not worth to a serious.

4, if it is joint action, it is pointless to discuss, we assume that he is not a joint action, we are talking about a single action, at least, only one party dominates.


Then implemented to the exclusion for those who suspect object.


First, forget Israel, they already have enough trouble, do not give yourself an additional big trouble.


Second, the terrorists do not have this ability, I have already explained, from a military accomplishment, intelligence and equipment, those terrorists have not had this ability. Even here there is a careful plan to sneak into to determine the target to complete the goal to try to spread Chinese hostages kidnapped Note to escape, and finally succeeded in escaping. This line is so clear, religious fanaticism of the terrorists do not have this ability, and even I think they do not have the will. If there is no more possible target of Israel, my first rule out the terrorists.

Then, the suspect in India and the United States. We first have a look to India.

we are already affected from terrorism.......and some internal issues..we were also attacked by same style in mumbai..
btw i can also say..

1)china could gain a lot from this attack..not only in closeness to pakistan but also making pakistan more reliable on it.
2)I can also say,the usa is behind this..
3)May be ISI behind it,to divert the attention of the abbotabad operation from the world and from their ppl..

btw..

, the suspect in India and the United States. We first have a look to India

this shows that u have india phobia..

 

[huzihaidao12]

we are already affected from terrorism.......and some internal issues..we were also attacked by same style in mumbai..
btw i can also say..

1)china could gain a lot from this attack..not only in closeness to pakistan but also making pakistan more reliable on it.
2)I can also say,the usa is behind this..
3)May be ISI behind it,to divert the attention of the abbotabad operation from the world and from their ppl..

btw..


this shows that u have india phobia..

Give me some time, OK? do not compare Mumbai and this action, you'd better understand why.