Attack on PAF Base Minhas

[karan.1970]

Ironically, i find the same with Indian members, when it comes to Insurgency in India thread. In contrast just check how many are keenly engaged in this thread..... such a shame when fresh incidents of violence in Assam are taking place.

It IS after all Pakistan Defence Forum... Just like you wouldnt talk about attacks in Pakistan on an Indian forum, the same applies in reverse..

But talks about attacks on Pakistan in a Pakistani defence forum is nothing to shy away from..

 

[S.M.R]

In pure defence point of view, its amazing that the TTP can recognise an AWAC from a regular plane, ....

I thought the most simple logic would be them saying to each other " dekh uss plane ke upar kuch ajeeb sa machinery hain, chalo attack karein".

The SSG type trained terrorists using night goggles must have been told that how those planes look like. It is not like that the plane seems alien, attack it.

 

[karan.1970]

SAAB Target before PC3 Target..... We'r not using AWACS against terrorist so who is actually want to destory ? everyone knows "INDIA"

Or USA to blindside Pakistan as they send in their special forces/helis to take out militant hideouts in North Waziristan.. Is it that far fetched??

 

[Haseebullah]

 

[Abingdonboy]

In pure defence point of view, its amazing that the TTP can recognise an AWAC from a regular plane, ....

I thought the most simple logic would be them saying to each other " dekh uss plane ke upar kuch ajeeb sa machinery hain, chalo attack karein".

Mate I'd go as far to say they had access to Google! With the radar on top it is a pretty big give away- JMHO.

 

[Ark-Angel]

Serious failure of Air Force Intelligence directorate to follow up the Intelligence passed to them.... Where the heck they were able to obtain Military uniforms and badges which allowed them to cross 3 check posts

You can buy military uniform from practically anywhere....

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Guys it is clear we should wait for more details to emerge before jumping to conclusions. Before balking the "boogy man" India one should control oneself. No link with India and terror groups has ever been proved and anyone who says it it has talking nonsense because if so where I'd the evidence and where is the official protest by the GoP? India has given thousands of pages of evidence to Pksitan over 26/11 and other attacks so surely this would be sweet revenge for the GoP? Addtionally for those inferring tht the attack had foreign finger prints just because they targeted AWACs are drawing conclusions they want to be true to absolve them of the real and more bitter truth. The TTP's motives for attacking AWACS are clear- they now see the GoP and thenPaksitani military as their enemy and hence want to inflict as much damage to their adversary as possible and hence it makes sense to attack an AWACS over say an F-16 or JF-17 in the same way it made sense to attack P-3s. The P-3s and AWACS are strategic assets, assets which Paksitan has relatively few hence taking out an Orion or Erieye would have a much larger effect on the PAF/PN and Paksitan as a whole given they are fewer in number, are much more expensive per unit to procure and replace and are "force multipliers" in themselves. Taking out an F-16 or Thunder would be damaging but clearly not as damaging as taking out a P-3 or AWACs. This is clear to any rational person so the TTP don't need to be CIA/Mossad/RAW trained or backed or Einsteins to peruse this line of attack, do they?

thats ok mate

its only natural to suspect the most obvious beneficiaries and the culprits as the time passes and the information is gathered then one can drop the suspects until the real culprit is found. India would do the same if such thing happens in India.

what people are doing is speculating and you shouldn't mind that. the fact that these high profile attacks have actually targeted specialized and strategic aircraft's points at foreign states which might be proven to be untrue but until that happens people will continue to speculate and point fingers at India

but the points from many India are not lost that terrorists would do anything to cause an all out conflict between India and Pakistan. that will mean even a bigger playing field for them. just like in the Middle East Al Qaeda is actually following the civil unrest.

 

[Leviza]

Ok, this is not a good day, you all seemed so volatile about everything, but calm down before making comments on us....Be civil, I already apologized for my behavior, may be its time you people should show some restrain especially the way you are referring to India and Indians.....

If you have proof, show us otherwise check your language.....I hope MODs will also look into this just like they did for Indians comments....

OFF TOPIC
you need to understand our feeling right now, there are proofs of RAW involvement as this sort of attacks needs the backup, the equipment used by the attackers were not just available to people like these, there is either RAW or CIA or both helping across the border.

anywayz if you dont agree then do no reply, proofs like these can not be disclosed over internet forums ,
No one is going to give any proofs like indians didnt gave any proofs for mumbai attacks just some mobile sim, tooth paste tubes etc

ON TOPIC
PAF and Army should now, take these people accountable, and launch attacks inside afghanistan from where these dogs are coming up, even if they have to attack their supporters ...

 

[karan.1970]

after successfully defending a militant attack on an airforce bases where security is nothing compared to security of nuclear assets, if they still have any doubts, we can do nothing but laugh at there stupidity.

Again, all attackers were killed, No target achieved by militants, no damage done to any assets!!
This mission is a success story from start to end!!

regards!

I have no contention with the fact that this was a resoundingly successful defense by Pakistani sec forces and have said it in so many words in this thread.. However, the line USA would take on this is not that the sec forces successfully repelled the attack, but the fact that Pakistan is the only Nuclear power in the world where such attacks on large military establishments happen at such a frequency
Timeline of Pakistan

After all, there just needs to be one successful bid by the terrorists to negate all past failures..

 

[itaskol]

this news also reported in china. at least 11 chinese engeniers were in this base. none of them got hurt.

 

[Arsalan]

TTP claims attack on Minhas base; eight militants killed | DAWN.COM

Bro... 8 militants attack an air base, armed with RPG, and sophisticated close combat weapons,
The airbase is the manufacturing hub and home to PAF latest fighter jet, JF-17.
The airbase where we have foreigners, Chinese engineers helping PAC with JFT project
the airbase where PAF latest AWACS are present

Do you really think by damage, the attackers wanted to get an RPG land near an aircraft to do SOME damage???

--No-- i say again, there is no damage done, nothing that they wanted!!
i hope you understand what i mean to say!

regards!

 

[Abingdonboy]

OFF TOPIC
you need to understand our feeling right now, there are proofs of RAW involvement as this sort of attacks needs the backup, the equipment used by the attackers were not just available to people like these, there is either RAW or CIA or both helping across the border.

anywayz if you dont agree then do no reply, proofs like these can not be disclosed over internet forums ,
No one is going to give any proofs like indians didnt gave any proofs for mumbai attacks just some mobile sim, tooth paste tubes etc

ON TOPIC
PAF and Army should now, take these people accountable, and launch attacks inside afghanistan from where these dogs are coming up, even if they have to attack their supporters ...

I'm sorry but from what I heard these guys were armed with AKs and RPGs not SOPMOD M4s or FN SCARs or INSAS or Tavor-21 or Javelins or At4 etc it is not exactly far fetched to say these can be procured from inside Pakistan and DEFINETLY Afghanistan, right? Their equipment seems identical to that used by any rag-tag miltia or terror outfit and os nothing special, it hardly needs a foreing player to be involved for these guys to get such equipment. Or am I missing somthing?

 

[imrankhan7250]

All the media reports are suggesting that one air craft has been damaged. Can someone tell me which aircraft was that

 

[Hyperion]

I have no contention with the fact that this was a resoundingly successful defense by Pakistani sec forces and have said it in so many words in this thread.. However, the line USA would take on this is not that the sec forces successfully repelled the attack, but the fact that Pakistan is the only Nuclear power in the world where such attacks on large military establishments happen at such a frequency
Timeline of Pakistan

After all, there just needs to be one successful bid by the terrorists to negate all past failures..

VERY TRUE. I wish my emotional countrymen understand that, the repercussions of this attack can not be counted ALONE on the basis of how successfully we defended the attack, rather the information-warfare browny-points that will be scored by Yanks & Co!

 

[karan.1970]

"Zia kay daur main joh officers Madrassahs say aye hain" WTF?

Prolly, on the same lines as this

Madrassa graduates and labour market mismatches | DAWN.COM