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At least they are not conducting any FAKE ENCOUNTERS. :laugh:

So you are happy with all these attack in Pakistan ???

In the first case, due for a hearing on Wednesday, the Supreme Court has ordered the ISI to produce in court seven suspected militants it has been holding since 2010 — and to explain how four other detainees from the same group died in mysterious circumstances over the past six months.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/07/world/asia/isi-in-pakistan-faces-court-cases.html?pagewanted=all

You talking about fake encounters ??

The case, due to be heard on Friday, will offer a window into the workings of the ISI and its sister agency, Military Intelligence, and charges that they have made hundreds of Pakistanis disappear.
Pakistan's spy agency ISI faces court over disappearances | World news | guardian.co.uk


If RAW is able to save us with these encounters so I dnt have any problem :tup:
 
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Seems you lack the comprehension to differentiate between a spy agency involved in covert operations in national interest and those conducting fake encounters for personal incentives. !!!
 
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Seems you lack the comprehension to differentiate between a spy agency involved in covert operations in national interest and those conducting fake encounters for personal incentives. !!!

Personal Incentives ????

looks like you found nothing else to proof your stupid claim
 
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BUSTED......False news contributed to the same character behind the earlier BS.

Some idiot called Zia Tanouwli.

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well that sums it up!!
Thanks windjammer for clearing this for us.
This is stupid news reporting at its best.

I rember when the older news of fire, and assets buring and blah blah surfaced i contacted a friend at Kamra and he was surprised and said that OH!! LET ME CHECK!!
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he called back later to tell me that yes, they were burning dry grass to clear the field!!
Pathetic!
 
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Seems you lack the comprehension to differentiate between a spy agency involved in covert operations in national interest and those conducting fake encounters for personal incentives. !!!

Lets agree to disagree on what is more of a problem, individual failure or institutional. Its all off topic.
 
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Lets agree to disagree on what is more of a problem, individual failure or institutional. Its all off topic.

That's a negative, since Oscar explained elsewhere that the relevant intelligence was provided by the agency, however, it was up to the concerned to take neccesary precautions. !!
 
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Should be punishment for Yellow Journalism .....media shouldn't be free like this....its too much..
 
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Acute lack of comprehension to say the least but then looking at your flags, that's obviously expected, you see when a rubber dingy leisurely sailed right down your throat, the best RAW could have done is provide the intelligence and not fight them, same applied to the ISI.... but hey, they didn't hold a city hostage for three days. :D



At least they are not conducting any FAKE ENCOUNTERS. :laugh:

Im sure u will be happy by mentioning the whole city hostage thing and i am not surprised looking at your flags

Hey then the same can be said to RAW also right they have given prior intelligence before Mumbai attack
But ISI dont have any intelligence before PNS Mehran or the Rawalpindi attack thats what i meant
And how did U guys keep the whole city hostage by Bravely killing innocents in Railway station,hospitals,coffee shops,
Hotels when there is no commandos present
 
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there is a news on the front page of today's JUNG newspaper that PAF has suffered a loss of $200 million due to damage done to SAAB AWACS aircraft on attack at PAF base kamra.
 
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there is a news on the front page of today's JUNG newspaper that PAF has suffered a loss of $200 million due to damage done to SAAB AWACS aircraft on attack at PAF base kamra.

Do you mean this?

$200 million questions for PAF

Note: the writer is Farrukh Saleem. Not a average nonsense reporter.

BTW, what is the cost of a single SAAB 2000? 180 million?

Although the later points and questions by him such as penetration, kevlar, etc etc maybe debatable
 
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Do you mean this?

$200 million questions for PAF

Note: the writer is Farrukh Saleem. Not a average nonsense reporter.

BTW, what is the cost of a single SAAB 2000? 180 million?

Although the later points and questions by him such as penetration, kevlar, etc etc maybe debatable

This 'report' is just reffering to 'some reports' ie those urdu ones already posted -- and simply speculating that if these reports are correct the damage to PAF would be $200 million. To twist this into - the paper is saying that PAF has actualy suffered $200 million loss is a stretch to say the least.
 
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This 'report' is just reffering to 'some reports' ie those urdu ones already posted -- and simply speculating that if these reports are correct the damage to PAF would be $200 million. To twist this into - the paper is saying that PAF has actualy suffered $200 million loss is a stretch to say the least.

The problem with Pakistani government and security agencies is that they want to put everything in the wraps. They want to act stoic, stiff and dont want to communicate with their own people.

It would have been a lot easier to be truthful and for the public eye, truth has to be seen to believed, not just stated. The idea is that the Air Force could have taken a select group of journalists on the tour of the facility and to openly show to them the nature of damage. This would have stopped the speculation we hear every passing day.
 
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This is accurate news. Ericsson (Dubai) has given the PAF an estimate of around US$200 million to cater for the repair to the Erieye during the said attack

Do you mean this?

$200 million questions for PAF

Note: the writer is Farrukh Saleem. Not a average nonsense reporter.

BTW, what is the cost of a single SAAB 2000? 180 million?

Although the later points and questions by him such as penetration, kevlar, etc etc maybe debatable
 
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This is accurate news. Ericsson (Dubai) has given the PAF an estimate of around US$200 million to cater for the repair to the Erieye during the said attack

How much is a plane? Only the plane, not the AWACS.

And Ericsson Dubai? The dealer in Dubai?
 
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The total deal was worth around US$1.4B for 3 aircraft. The aircraft itself does not cost as much as the EW, ECM AND ECCM equipment in it. Damage has been does to the aircraft skin and to the sensitive surveillance equipment on board. This is the reason why the US$250M estimate!!

The Erieye aircraft were sold through the defense office of Ericsson (Sweden) that used to be in Pakistan but some years back (in Saudi Pak Tower, Islamabad) but shifted to Dubai instead due to the security situation in Pakistan.

How much is a plane? Only the plane, not the AWACS.

And Ericsson Dubai? The dealer in Dubai?
 
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