Atrocities on Sikh Women in Punjab

[Crixus]

Just one point can we defend the murderers behind the smoke screen of excuses ....... I dont know how people can befriend with those who have remove all muslims except from Maler Kotla in west Punjab .......... We can even call oit as the ethnic cleansing of Muslims who were part of that area for centuries

After committing such henious crimes against the people of Islamic faith now they are crying for 1984 .....

A crime is a crime. Can we absolved them for the atrocities ? It is also not about the faith . it is about the human and crimes committed against them.

The only difference between the slaughter in 47 and after 84 in India is that the former had a bigger screen of excuses like mass migration of same people who become strangers whereas what happened to Sikhs in India is more fortunate because they were never traitors to India which was their country.

 

[Dhara]

Once I read some where the best definition of sorry ..... rape a girl and then say sorry to her the she will explain you the meaning of sorry ...... seems like you are doing same with Muslims ..... even Maharaja Ranjit Singh's Army did such slaughters in tribal areas which are now known as now part of Pakistan ...... the main mosque of Lahore became a stable for horses during Ranjit Singh's tenure....... you can also blame this on baniya

As I said our leaders fooled by Nehru and later used Sikhs against Muslims and because of that Muslim of Pakistan did most of the damage to Sikhs only but now every thing is past we are brothers share same language and culture.

 

[Crixus]

Maharaja Ranjit Singh was fooled by Nehru right ? I think Nehru asked him to convert the Lahore Mosque in a stable

As I said our leaders fooled by Nehru and later used Sikhs against Muslims and because of than Muslim of Pakistan did most of the damage to Sikhs only but now every thing is past we are brothers share same language and culture.

 

[SorryNotSorry]

As I said our leaders fooled by Nehru and later used Sikhs against Muslims and because of that Muslim of Pakistan did most of the damage to Sikhs only but now every thing is past we are brothers share same language and culture.

FALSE STATEMENT.

And the 1980s are in the past, and we in India are brothers that share the same language and culture.

 

[Dhara]

Maharaja Ranjit Singh was fooled by Nehru right ? I think Nehru asked him to convert the Lahore Mosque in a stable

As I said those who committed crime no more in this world.

Don't try to derail the thread by bringing past stories.

 

[Crixus]

So once everyone who did 1984 die ... their crimes will be pardoned automatically ??? great logic

As I said those who committed crime no more in this world.

Don't try to derail the thread by bringing past stories.

 

[Spring Onion]

Just one point can we defend the murderers behind the smoke screen of excuses ....... I dont know how people can befriend with those who have remove all muslims except from Maler Kotla in west Punjab .......... We can even call oit as the ethnic cleansing of Muslims who were part of that area for centuries

After committing such henious crimes against the people of Islamic faith now they are crying for 1984 .....

There are three points


1. NO we cannot defend murderers behind smoke screen of excuses be they Sikh, Hindu or Muslims

2. Can we be friend with those who's ancestors removed all the Muslims or Hindus or Sikh from any area / YES we can since the young generation should not be held responsible for what their ancestors did many centuries ago or many decades ago. So That is why you see most of the Indian Sikhs get along with Indian Hindus despite the fact that the same Hindus of India mascaraed Sikhs in 84.

This is the same reason Muslims get along with Sikhs despite the fact that Sikhs massacred Muslims during Partition and this is the reason why Indian Hindus should shun hate and get along with own Indian Muslims since it was not the fault of your Muslims that Muslim kings from other parts of the world mascaraed Hindus.


3. People from all these three faiths can stand with each other against human rights violation and demand for justice for the victims in the recent past.

 

[Dhara]

So once everyone who did 1984 die ... their crimes will be pardoned automatically ??? great logic

No their killers are alive and we don't want to live with you. Our religion is different our culture is different.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

No their killers are alive and we don't want to live with you. Our religion is different our culture is different.

You are anyways living in Japan... Have fun...create your Khali-Sthan there.

 

[Spring Onion]

So we are trying to justofy 1947... but we are slamming 1984.. whereas both in all aspects were politically driven . so whatever suits our narrative ... sells... right?

I do not know about WE but I am not justifying . I am telling you that your Sikhs colleagues killed Muslims for your same land now called INDIA but what you have done to them. You are brutalizing your own countrymen who are near to your faith more than the Muslims' .

 

[Crixus]

No one can deny what you have written ... tell all the 3 points to @Dhara

I know we cant carry the baggage of past for ever ..... we have to move on for the future of coming generations

There are three points


1. NO we cannot defend murderers behind smoke screen of excuses be they Sikh, Hindu or Muslims

2. Can we be friend with those who's ancestors removed all the Muslims or Hindus or Sikh from any area / YES we can since the young generation should not be held responsible for what their ancestors did many centuries ago or many decades ago. So That is why you see most of the Indian Sikhs get along with Indian Hindus despite the fact that the same Hindus of India mascaraed Sikhs in 84.

This is the same reason Muslims get along with Sikhs despite the fact that Sikhs massacred Muslims during Partition and this is the reason why Indian Hindus should shun hate and get along with own Indian Muslims since it was not the fault of your Muslims that Muslim kings from other parts of the world mascaraed Hindus.


3. People from all these three faiths can stand with each other against human rights violation and demand for justice for the victims in the recent past.

You are living with Japanese ...... not with us hope you know that

No their killers are alive and we don't want to live with you. Our religion is different our culture is different.

 

[Spring Onion]

Those were separatists & India gave right treatment..About Thriving in Pakistan,even Islamic minorities are not safe..Let alone Sikhs.

We are not talking about the minorities in the first place here. We are talking about Indian official crimes against own large number of Sikhs with the patronage of Indian government.

You can open a thread about Pakistan I will gladly respond.

BTW here in Pakistan not only minorities but majority are not safe from terrorists who have different channels of funding and nourishment.

 

[Dhara]

who are near to your faith more than the Muslims' .

Wrong very wrong,

We are monotheists and don't worship idols and animals.

We believe in one God and that is why Punjabi Sufi poetry is as respectful for us as our religious scriptures.
Sikhism is very close to Islam and that is why Mughal misunderstood us as new sect of Islam and our Guru's were prosecuted.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

I do not know about WE but I am not justifying . I am telling you that your Sikhs colleagues killed Muslims for your same land now called INDIA but what you have done to them. You are brutalizing your own countrymen who are near to your faith more than the Muslims' .

Operation Bluestar was necessary... terrorists needed to be killed... just like Operation Lal Masjid was important for you guys...

Killing of Indira Gandhi and what followed was a political riot.. just like 1947 partition riots.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Wrong very wrong,

We are monotheists and don't worship idols and animals.

We believe in one God and that is why Punjabi Sufi poetry is as respectful for us as our religious scriptures.

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