At least 50+ dead in Kabul suicide attack

[53fd]

Even if the LeJ al Almi is based in Pakistan's tribal areas, it is not possible for them to conduct such coordinated attacks deep inside Afghan territory without getting caught, scattered from Eastern Afghanistan, Northern Afghanistan & Southern Afghanistan, simultaneously. They do not have any (real) presence in Afghanistan anyways. It would be difficult for even the Taliban to pull this off. And even if the LeJ al Almi has a presence in Afghanistan, it plays second fiddle to the Al-Qaeda there, meaning it is more likely for the Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan to pull this off than LeJ al Almi.

 

[EjazR]

If what you said in bold is true, then what happened to the Hazara Shias in Afghanistan, & why did they have to flee Afghanistan?

An incident from last year:

9 Hazaras Are Killed in Ambush by Taliban in Afghanistan - NYTimes.com

Sorry but the nytimes report is not about a suicide bomb attack during Muharram.

And the massacres that did happen where under the Taliban in the 90s, before that there was no history of anti-shia violence.

 

[Sher Malang]

Karzai says Kabul attack was plotted in Pakistan - The Washington Post

Kabul attacks: who is behind the suicide bombing? | Abbas Daiyar | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

And is there any reason left for us to prefer Pakistan over India?

Shame on all those here supporting or in any way pretending this inhumane and insane attack wasn't planned inside their territory by f**king lashkar jhangvi!

It was the first time incident I came to cry.. May Allah make them see the same Ashura day where ever they are, Ameen!

 

[Sher Malang]

Alhamdulilah we are so much aware of such things, and thanks to all our Shiite scholars who rapidly sent fatwas to all over Afghanistan that it wasn't a Shia-Sunni conflict but rather a hand of Pakistan in it.

Thus this lashker didn't took the responsibility right after the attack because they waited to see any reaction of Shia vs Sunni but no such thing happened there... and one thing more almost 40% of the victims were Sunnies too.

 

[EjazR]

The funny thing is that the BBC is quoting the Afghan ministry, saying that the Taliban are lying, & they were responsible for these attacks. Whereas, we can see US media outlets hyping up Karzai's 'unprecedented attack' statement, as well as the Taliban's statement that they don't kill civilians (which is a blatant lie), as if to emphasize that the Taliban were not capable of doing such a thing.

Actually its not contradictory at all. The Haqqani network claims to be a part of the Afghan Taliban and it is being accused by Afghan officials of providing logistics to transport Pakistani suicide bombers not just from LeJ in this particular attack but against Rabbani and other attacks as well.

The question is, if the Pakistani govt. can't be sovereign on its own territory and control these groups from using its territory from being used by hostile groups, does it still remain a sovereign country under the UN and International law? A neutral power can't allow training and transport of hostile forces in this case Taliban or Haqqani or LeT or LeJ groups on its territory. If it does either it is complicit or it has lost its sovereignty. In either case, under internationally law it is a legitimate reason to launch a defensive attack on Pakistan.

Ofcourse, the Afghan govt. won't have the resources to do that, but they are within their legitimate rights to question why Pakistan continues to harbour these groups in contravention to International law.

Please read through this.
International Humanitarian Law - Hague Convention V 1907

 

[Areesh]

does pakistan think i

I would have answered the question if indeed Pakistan was indeed involved in this incident but since it isn't and it's all old cheap rhetoric so sorry I won't. Nor any Pakistani.

 

[Areesh]

when have pakistanis accepted they are involved....big deal.

And why should we accept. Just because a "secular and saint" Indian is asking to do so. Sorry buddy. Can't help you.

 

[Kazhugu]

Alhamdulilah we are so much aware of such things, and thanks to all our Shiite scholars who rapidly sent fatwas to all over Afghanistan that it wasn't a Shia-Sunni conflict but rather a hand of Pakistan in it.

Thus this lashker didn't took the responsibility right after the attack because they waited to see any reaction of Shia vs Sunni but no such thing happened there... and one thing more almost 40% of the victims were Sunnies too.

sher...you may be new to this...but we have been seeing this long long ack...they wanted the hindus in india to turn against the muslims by supporting terror in india...but luckily indian muslims themselves by and large have rejected this causing their failure..

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And why should we accept. Just because a "secular and saint" Indian is asking to do so. Sorry buddy. Can't help you.

no need to help us...just try to help your own country from the consequences of these kind of attacks....anyway of the 40k dead had not opened the eyes of the pakistanis that terror does not pay....nothing else will..

 

[Areesh]

no need to help us...just try to help your own country from the consequences of these kind of attacks....anyway of the 40k dead had not opened the eyes of the pakistanis that terror does not pay....nothing else will..

We have already helped us and killed/arrested more terrorists than anyone else. But as I said earlier we are also shocked at the death of innocents in these incidents but we aren't going to accept someone's stupid accusation and pathetic rhetoric. Keep that in mind and stop BSing.

 

[Areesh]

no one is bs-ing.

all this claim about sacrificing so much in the wot..go tell that to some ignorant american hilbilly who might believe you....

you are just trying to clean up half-heartedly what was your most favourite asset and only because it turned against you...still you people dont seem to have let go of the myopic view....

We don't need a certificate of what we did from someone and that too a bharati. We did play a role in WOT and we did more than anyone else. Period.

 

[53fd]

Sorry but the nytimes report is not about a suicide bomb attack during Muharram.

And the massacres that did happen where under the Taliban in the 90s, before that there was no history of anti-shia violence.

The Taliban have always had a history of violence against the Hazara Shias:

UN confirms Taliban massacre of ethnic minority

Before the 90s, the Taliban did not exist, so it futile to talk about that. It doesn't matter what mode they use against the Shias, as long as they are involved in massacring them.

 

[53fd]

Actually its not contradictory at all. The Haqqani network claims to be a part of the Afghan Taliban and it is being accused by Afghan officials of providing logistics to transport Pakistani suicide bombers not just from LeJ in this particular attack but against Rabbani and other attacks as well.

The point is that there is NO PROOF of the involvement of the LeJ or any other group from Pakistani soil (never mind the alleged complicity of the Pakistani administration) being involved in this attack. So why are you being so foolhardy in your assumptions & opinions?