ASELSAN has sold 16 E/O ASELPODs to Pakistan for $25 million

[mustafa erkan]

Doesnt ASELPOD has CCD or color camera ? because I just saw promotional video of ASELPOD and from first to last, all the imagery was in Black/White

It has CCD (768*576 pixel black/ white which is better than Sniper xr) but ı dont know color camera. It has 128 gb video recorder which is enough for 8 flights and may be increased at serial production if necessary.
At next phases HDMI camera and SAR radar may be added if desired. From S&H magazine.
The hdmi cameras they mentioned are color cameras ı guess but i dont understand about sar radar may be it will have capabilities to work with aselsan AESA radar.

 

[Nefarious]

Does anyone know if Aselsan has or will have an AESA radar that can be used on JF-17 BLK 3? I understand they're working on F-16 AESA right now.

 

[Oguzhan]

Does anyone know if Aselsan has or will have an AESA radar that can be used on JF-17 BLK 3? I understand they're working on F-16 AESA right now.

They have one in their pathway for F-16.

 

[princefaisal]

I think Pakistan should work with Aselsan for a possible quality solution of various critical items for its JF-17s like AESA radar, HMDS, superior avionics, jamming pods etc

 

[cabatli_53]

Turkey payed $118mln for 30 sniper pods: $3.93mln / sniper pod
Turkey sold 16 Aselpod to Pakistan for $25mln: $1.56mln / Aselpod
in 1997 Turkey bought 20 lantirn targeting pods for %54mln: $2.7mln / lantirn pod

Thx Nutuk !

 

[Path-Finder]

I think Pakistan should work with Aselsan for a possible quality solution of various critical items for its JF-17s like AESA radar, HMDS, superior avionics, jamming pods etc

that is exactly what is happeing. Asel Pod is one part of it!

 

[aziqbal]

This Turkish pod is good and well priced

It's bit more than the Chinese pod but the fact that it's a NATO standard unit pays for itself

PAF like the sniper pod so the Turkish would be the preference

Also mating a Chinese aircraft with a turkish pod is a big tick in the box for JF17

 

[nomi007]

good for JF-17

 

[Max Pain]

Any chance ASELSAN could develop a whole avionics suit for JF-17 in paticular that conforms to teh NATO standards?
cuz that would be a very lucrative option for PAF and would go a long way.

 

[Quwa]

Any chance ASELSAN could develop a whole avionics suit for JF-17 in paticular that conforms to teh NATO standards?
cuz that would be a very lucrative option for PAF and would go a long way.

It depends on how much they've developed in-house, and in the case of imported components, to what extent they are allowed to export to third parties. @Bilal Khan 777 @cabatli_53

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

Any chance ASELSAN could develop a whole avionics suit for JF-17 in paticular that conforms to teh NATO standards?
cuz that would be a very lucrative option for PAF and would go a long way.

Highly Unlikely.

It depends on how much they've developed in-house, and in the case of imported components, to what extent they are allowed to export to third parties. @Bilal Khan 777 @cabatli_53

I see this as highly unlikely, due to many reasons. Most of the avionics of JF17 are indigenous, and PAF has complete control of the OFPs and the software.

 

[RAMPAGE]

Highly Unlikely.



I see this as highly unlikely, due to many reasons. Most of the avionics of JF17 are indigenous, and PAF has complete control of the OFPs and the software.

I think there were plans for an indigenous AESA. What happened to that?

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

I think there were plans for an indigenous AESA. What happened to that?

The basis for an AESA is a TR Unit, then a mature model, then the software that controls the whole thing, and integration with a mission computer that is able to handle the data. Any developed AESA has thousands of hours of characterisation flying on a test bed, which is impossible to replace in indigenous projects.

There has been a lot of work done in this area, but the conclusion is that an inservice system, modelled or scaled down for JF17, shall be acquired. This is open for competition, for a newly designed system, an acquired system, or a scaled down system. Lets see which approach is finalised, but it will be a system is likely to be indegenized and not indigenous.

 

[Quwa]

@Bilal Khan 777 sir, just that there is no confusion. By "avionics" you are referring to the internal flight systems, correct? What of ECM/EW? I remember you were saying that the PAF would prefer sole sourcing the AESA radar and ECM/EW because it wants to fuse the two elements. But in the absence of Finmeccanica (Selex) suddenly coming up with a suite of RWR, MAWS, and self-protection jammers, this basically dwindles the PAF's options to China. What would it take to be able to integrate an AESA radar and ECM/EW suite from two different sources?

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

@Bilal Khan 777 sir, just that there is no confusion. By "avionics" you are referring to the internal flight systems, correct? What of ECM/EW? I remember you were saying that the PAF would prefer sole sourcing the AESA radar and ECM/EW because it wants to fuse the two elements. But in the absence of Finmeccanica (Selex) suddenly coming up with a suite of RWR, MAWS, and self-protection jammers, this basically dwindles the PAF's options to China. What would it take to be able to integrate an AESA radar and ECM/EW suite from two different sources?

By Avionics I mean what is inside the cockpit, and inside the avionics rack.

I am note sure what your question really means, but I would hope that the smart people in JF17 are aware of what they can or cannot do, and take the best decision. In my opinion, the AESA and EW suite go hand in hand, and should be purchased from single vendor, who is then made responsible for the suite to be working in its entirety. However, PAF specialists can decide their own course of action.

Selex/Leonardo/BAE/Electronica/Indra/China does not have such a walk in the park anymore, as the higher batches of JF17 have higher performance requirements, since they are designated to replace modernised aircraft of PAF.

BTW, PAF already have RWR, MAWS, and ASPJ from non-Chinese sources.

As I mentioned before AESA and its interworking EW components require characterisation. This is something one cannot cheat, and may take thousands of hours to develop a model where it is of any use. Otherwise you are just buying hardware. Whomever PAF buys from, they are basically acquiring the characterisation and libraries.