As Walmart Swallows Flipkart, the Dream of an Indian Alibaba is Dead

[Fireurimagination]

yahoo and myspace died because of better innovation out there, other people had better and bigger ideas for social networking.

e commerce businesses are essentially all the same, you sell a product to the buyer through your website and make sure it reaches the intended destination. there is hardly any need for new ideas like social networking sites.

In India Amazon is out to kill Flipkart will sheer muscle power. Offers, exclusive deals, allout advertising and what not all. Flipkarts investors understood that they can't match the might of Amazon and thus Flipkart had to stop competing ad to ad, offer to offer. Amazon plan was to hit Flipkart hard and then try to buy them out. Anybody who can take on Amazon is Walmart, infact it's not Walmart alone but a bunch of investors including Google, they bring a lot on the table for Flipkart to compete with Amazon and also take the business to the next level.

 

[Hello16]

my question is when you will change ur flag to india and stop false flagging

are you embarrassed to be indian ?

I guessed it you have no answer.

Next time you claim something please be sure to substantiate it.

 

[randomradio]

Is the same, a market with trade barrier is not a free market. Can I buy India state owned companies? No... Even the US market will come up with 1000 excuse to refuse China buyout. What makes India market different from China and USA?

Why would you buy state owned companies? Even if it was available, nobody will buy it.

Plus pretty much all of them are in controlled sectors. Nobody outside the US can buy Lock Mart or Boeing either.

I am from IT industries and working on International market and i know how things work. My point was China low cost product with good margin help Alibaba to grow faster. Do India have this advantage?

Yes. India has this advantage. Ecommerce companies mainly cater to the domestic market.

 

[Sully3]

I guessed it you have no answer.

Next time you claim something please be sure to substantiate it.

must be slap an Indian in the face day today
Pakistani-American's Tech Unicorn Files For IPO at $1.6 Billion Valuation
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http://www.riazhaq.com/2017/05/pakistani-american-co-founders-sell.html

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http://www.riazhaq.com/2014/07/pakistani-brothers-spawned-multi.html

Pakistani-American Startups Among Top 5 Silicon Valley VC Deals
http://www.riazhaq.com/2013/02/2-pakistani-american-startups-among-top.html

 

[fitpOsitive]

Pakistanis and Indians stop selling your internet businesses before they reach their full potential.

Chinese wouldnt ever have an Alibaba if they sold the company at the first sight of American competitors offering them money for their business. American companies only buy these businesses because they seem them as a threat to their own online commerce.

Like Whatsapp.

 

[insight-out]

When Walmart buys Flipkart or Alibaba buys Daraz, there is a lot going on that does not make the news. When you have a behemoth like Alibaba offering to buy Daraz, the implicit alternative is that if you don't sell, we will simply enter the market ourselves and drive you out. So you better take the money now, or risk losing everything. So it really is an offer they can't refuse.

The only way a Daraz or Flipkart could refuse an offer of purchase from these giants is if the government steps in with protectionist measures. But that is not easy for an economy that purports to be open and free. There are political consequences as well as other international deals to consider.

So in a globalized free market, the big and powerful will always swallow up the small and unprotected. That puts China at an advantage, because it enjoys the best of both worlds. It has an open and free market, but can be protective of its industry when needed. And that is not a bad thing.

 

[takeiteasy]

IINM, Flipkart more likely owns SnapDeal and eBay India now? @Fireurimagination

 

[Ajaxpaul]

SoftBank made a killing....double the money in 6 months.

 

[my2cents]

yahoo and myspace died because of better innovation out there, other people had better and bigger ideas for social networking.

e commerce businesses are essentially all the same, you sell a product to the buyer through your website and make sure it reaches the intended destination. there is hardly any need for new ideas like social networking sites.

Not true. You can burn very fast just delivering the goods. Amazon did not have any profits for many years when they started with book delivery. Only when they started innovating and expanding to other household goods and do it efficiently did they actually make any money. You have millions of items stored in your warehouse and you have to deliver them to millions of households. My cousin who worked in operations in Amazon told me how big their warehouses are and how they have planning done from procurement to last detail of delivery.

 

[Fireurimagination]

IINM, Flipkart more likely owns SnapDeal and eBay India now? @Fireurimagination

No, Flipkart owns Myntra which inturn owns Jabong. Talks with snapdeal fell apart at nth hour even after some promoters accepted Flipkarts buyout offer but the founder promoters finally decided to revamp and go alone. With eBay India Flipkart had a strategic partnership of some kind which eBay has announced that is now over after Walmart buyout and that they will launch eBay India again.

 

[Tauren Paladin]

India has companies that can compete with the best in the world. Wait for Reliance Retail to jump in the game.

Walmart and Amazon are going to swallow Reliance and dominate the retail market just like how Facebook dominated social networking in India. Reliance has to compete against 2 giant retail behemoths, so they must feel very worried right now.

 

[SrNair]

It seems the stage is set for Reliance .
Competition between Amazon and Walmart will definitely hurt the Amazon and to be honest Walmart is also not in good condition.
And our e commerce market is not so friendly ,combining all this factors .They will eventually drain.Reliance has home advantage and billions of oil money

 

[AyanRay]

must be slap an Indian in the face day today
Pakistani-American's Tech Unicorn Files For IPO at $1.6 Billion Valuation
http://www.riazhaq.com/2017/04/pakistani-americans-tech-unicorn-files.html

Pakistani-American Co-Founders Sell Tech Startup Viptela to Cisco For $610 million
http://www.riazhaq.com/2017/05/pakistani-american-co-founders-sell.html

Pakistani Brothers Spawned Multi-Billion Dollar Security Software Industry
http://www.riazhaq.com/2014/07/pakistani-brothers-spawned-multi.html

Pakistani-American Startups Among Top 5 Silicon Valley VC Deals
http://www.riazhaq.com/2013/02/2-pakistani-american-startups-among-top.html

You gave examples of American start-ups started my US citizens of Pakistani origin. By your logic, Google, Microsoft, ArcelorMittal, PepsiCo are all held by Indians and Bose, Cognizant, Syntel are all Indian companies. Stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[illusion8]

i think the point most people are trying to make is maybe flipkart could one day become an amazon or ali baba rather then selling it to a giant.

like it or not pakistanis and indians sell their start ups at the first sight off money offered to them by worried big competitors.

What do you think Flipkart's promoters would do with their 16 billion plus a 30% stake? Invest in a new venture of course. Flipkart was bleeding and needed another 10 years to even break even. Plus Amazon was breathing down its neck.

 

[randomradio]

Walmart and Amazon are going to swallow Reliance and dominate the retail market just like how Facebook dominated social networking in India. Reliance has to compete against 2 giant retail behemoths, so they must feel very worried right now.

Reliance has the advantage. They have their own stores all over the country and are supported by oil money.

https://www.livemint.com/Companies/...al-investment-at-Rs150000-crore-Mukesh-A.html
“Jio is one of the largest transformational digital initiatives anywhere in the world with an initial investment of more than Rs.150,000 crore. It really is the world’s biggest start-up,” Ambani added.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/busi...record-year/story-rDg7gBbjJnKLZfinGiZjwK.html
Reliance Industries plans to spend a further Rs 18000 crore on its Jio telecoms business in the current quarter, it said on Monday, taking its investment in the venture to more than Rs 1.9 lakh crore.

https://www.businesstoday.in/sector...-ril-broadband-fiber-invest/story/276380.html
According to Livemint, Reliance Industries (RIL) is likely to invest Rs 60,000 crore into its telecom unit this fiscal year. In addition to this, unit Reliance Jio Infocomm Ltd may also borrow as much as Rs 1 lakh crore, the report said. In 2016, Mukesh Ambani had said that investment in the telecom startup Jio would be around Rs 2,50,000 crore.

That's a total investment of $53B in just one market for just one industry.

And this is not counting their other industries.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-9-3-billion-in-industrial-area-idUSKCN1G20NX
India’s Reliance Industries Ltd and global technology companies will invest 600 billion rupees ($9.34 billion) over 10 years to set up an integrated industrial area in the western state of Maharashtra, the company’s chairman Mukesh Ambani said.

Walmart and Amazon are going to face an amazingly difficult competition once Reliance enters the ecommerce market. Their agenda is to dominate the Internet business in the country. For example, they say that they want to give 1-day or 2-day deliveries to even the smallest towns in the country. The foreign companies cannot compete with that, they will focus only on the main cities as Amazon is doing now.