As of today. Strait of Hormuz is closed for US

[Hack-Hook]

When yanks mercilessly killed our soldiers, we blocked their supplies. The blockaded had almost brought uncle sam to knees but India+Iran tag team gave him breathing space by providing supplies via Iran. So, lets mind our own business and interests instead of wanking in matters which doesn't concern. Our priority should be securing and controlling our western borders like eastern border and LOC to avoid any spill over if sh!t ever hit the fan. As far as US is concerned, they don't need to attack Iran directly when they can pitch Iranins and Arabs against each other and can fight Iran till last Arab, and Arabs till last Iranian.

The breathing Avenue come from north side not west side.

 

[CHACHA"G"]

I don't get this !!!!!!!!!!1 Does this means iran will attack Oman and capture Oman's Sea too ?????? How will iran close this part of sea with Oman sea ?? And why will USA ask permission if they use international water or Oman's waters ?????

 

[Hack-Hook]

they do not need any! do you remember USA destroying Iraq (specifically Sunni rule) on behalf of Iran? do you remember them handing over Saddam Hussain to be lynched and filmed by a mob of ayatullahs? do you remember USA removing Sunnis from power in Afghanistan and replacing them with Northern alliance?

next one marked for destruction is Pakistan not Iran. why do you think USA allowed Chabahar corridor to be built? was it for modi to supply books to his Afghan library or to supply NATO Bases?

Nothing was on behalf of iran they wanted a puppet they could control better and they failed as they overestimated their capabilities.

 

[Arsalan 345]

This is getting bad.i think this is just a statement.no actions on ground.hormuz is very important and nobody can block it.irani Navy and american Navy isn't comparable.nobody can stop Americans in hormuz.iran should deal this oil matter with patience and not with aggression.use diplomatic channels.

 

[Hack-Hook]

I don't get this !!!!!!!!!!1 Does this means iran will attack Oman and capture Oman's Sea too ?????? How will iran close this part of sea with Oman sea ?? And why will USA ask permission if they use international water or Oman's waters ?????

You can use that part if you have fishing boat , in one part the passable area for big ships lies in iran territorial water.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I don’t think anything will happen.

Most likely US will back off and start pressure again in a few months after alternating pressure on Turkey and Pakistan to come back to Iran.

Everyone knows that a war between US and Iran means that US won’t be the sole power in the world anymore. Without oil, US economic difficulties will cripple the economy and drive it to a standstill.

Pakistan and Turkey won’t let anything happen to Iran, we cannot support anymore misadventures into our region.

If sanctions stay, we will help Iran sell oil and skirt restrictions using other means. China is already discussing it and planning for their response.

 

[Hack-Hook]

This is getting bad.i think this is just a statement.no actions on ground.hormuz is very important and nobody can block it.irani Navy and american Navy isn't comparable.nobody can stop Americans in hormuz.iran should deal this oil matter with patience and not with aggression.use diplomatic channels.

Does USA ship oil through the straight ? Did Zarif said we stop Kuwait or Qatar or KSA or UAE ?

 

[CHACHA"G"]

You can use that part if you have fishing boat , in one part the passable area for big ships lies in iran territorial water.

Is their no international water (belongs to no country) in this part of the sea ?? And how will you close your part ?? and please provide any link for your claim for Oman's water . Thanks

 

[Arsalan 345]

Does USA ship oil through the straight ? Did Zarif said we stop Kuwait or Qatar or KSA or UAE ?

I don't know much about Irani politics but I think there must be a solution.americans want to listen to Iran but Iran keep repeating same old lines like America kaafir.you have to think about your people.there are many benefits if you make America your friend.i think irani f-16s were handed over to Israel because America was sick about Irani revolution.this is an old problem.you would probably be flying f-16 today if no revolution but again,past is past.move forward and make peace.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Is their no international water (belongs to no country) in this part of the sea ?? And how will you close your part ?? and please provide any link for your claim for Oman's water . Thanks

You sea the passage is from north side of of some islands .
Those are iranian Islands. And by the way as USA ships in area under control of centcom and central is considered a terrorist organization in these parts of the wood then innocent passage won't apply to them.

By the way as far as I'm aware Oman also didn't ratified UNCLOS.

 

[nahtanbob]

You are derailing. You said "Iraqi people had similar boasts that US will utterly fail in Iraq but they were proven wrong. This same Iraq gave Iran one hell of a fight earlier - do not forget this" I responded to your claim by providing the facts that Iran had essentially a non existent military, was in chaos, embargoed, fought off an Iraq supported by almost the entire world. But still didn't lose the war. You are basically saying the Iraq that got wrecked by US gave Iran a hell of a fight for 8 years without considering any of the facts I mentioned. You cannot compare the Iran of 1980 to the Iran of today. And you cannot compare Saddam vs US to Iran vs US.

But anyways. Say US declares war on Iran. What is the objective of this war?

Iran will be utterly devastated by US air power. Is that an outcome Iran wants ?

FYI - USA is not interested in occupying Iran. you have kidnapped American diplomats, bombed American military bases in Middle East in the past - both of which are acts of war
Do not mistake American patience if you do something foolish like interfere with World oil supplies

You sea the passage is from north side of of some islands .
Those are iranian Islands. And by the way as USA ships in area under control of centcom and central is considered a terrorist organization in these parts of the wood then innocent passage won't apply to them.

By the way as far as I'm aware Oman also didn't ratified UNCLOS.

As per wikipedia Oman has signed and ratified it

 

[Cookie Monster]

Good.

Pakistan does not care if it becomes "one of several" nuclear Muslim states. Our nuclear capability is primarily to cage india within ganga plains and make india irrelevant geopolitical entity devoid of any chances of expansion (whether physical or cultural). We have done it successfully and will continue to do so.

Secondly, holy sites of Mecca Medinah are protected by our nuclear umbrella and no state is stupid enough to try to launch an invasion on holy cities anyways.

Besides that, Iran...KSA...Turkey...they all can have nuclear weapons. Good for them, we don't care

Except for Turkey...it would be better if nuclear weapons were kept out of the hands of other nations in the neighborhood.

1) If KSA gets it then Iran would go full swing trying to get them and it will start an arms race that's dangerous for the region.

2) If Iran gets nuclear weapons then the above point of an arms race still applies. Also keep in mind Iran has served anti Pakistan agenda from time to time either by issuing threats or by looking the other way and letting India foment unrest in Balochistan. At the moment despite their threatening statements, Iran doesn't pose a threat to Pak...but it would be a different story if they had nuclear armed missiles.

So while Pakistanis care for ummah and what not...ummah doesn't care for Pak. Each one of them is busy looking out for their own interests and so should Pak.

 

[LeGenD]

what's their answer to persian gulf missile?? or shkval/hoot torpedo?? or cruise missile launcher boats??

Persian Gulf missile as in Khalij Fars?

Both Softkill approaches and hardkill approaches have been devised to neutralize this kind of threat by now.

[1] Softkill approaches include powerful electronic warfare gear and cutting-edge decoy systems to jam/spoof/confuse incoming threats. One of these decoy systems is NULKA which is very effective against radar-guided threats of types. FYI: https://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=2100&tid=587&ct=2

Should the entire spectrum of softkill approaches fail to work (unlikely but let us assume otherwise), hardkill approaches will come into play next or in tandem.

[2] USN have developed incredibly maneuverable SM-2 Block IV and SM-6 interceptors to neutralize ASBMs and much more - hardkill options. To give you an idea; during the course of unadvertised trials in 2016, these interceptors defeated advanced ASBM variants simulating the capabilities of Chinese DF-21D class.

There.

Shkval/hoot torpedo?

Again, both softkill approaches and hardkill approaches have been devised to neutralize this kind of threat by now.

"At present, American submarines use a combination of electronic warfare jammers and acoustic decoys to defeat incoming torpedoes. This works well against threats that use active and passive sonar to home in on their targets." - Tyler Rogoway

For potential targets which might be cutting-edge to the point that they can get through American softkill approaches, American hardkill approaches will come into play or in tandem:

"The Navy has already developed multiple variants of the CVLWT, the best known of which is the Countermeasure Anti-Torpedo (CAT), also called the Anti-Torpedo Torpedo (ATT). This is a defensive “hard-kill” interceptor that is supposed to destroy incoming torpedoes by either slamming into them or destroying them with its explosive warhead." - Tyler Rogoway

There.

or cruise missile launcher boats??

Majority of navies do not have credible defenses against cruise missiles and ballistic missiles in general, but USN is becoming an exception to this norm.

Refer to [1] and [2] above; same set of defenses are also optimized to defeat cruise missiles.

Eye-openers, right?

American naval assets are equipped with (very) powerful set of sensor systems at present - technologies that are NOT approved for export to numerous countries worldwide. These sensor systems can notice and distinguish potential targets with very small RCS such as cruise missiles and develop a fire solution for these seemingly elusive threats.

Ballistic missiles; Cruise Missiles; Torpedoes; Drones; Aircraft and whatever - all are fair game for USN now.

As for how to track Iranian naval formations and even submarines?

All of the above is post 2002 stuff, based on lessons drawn from the much touted American Millennium Falcon naval simulation.

In fact, too much to highlight in a single post. Just do your homework.

 

[mangekyo]

Zarif recently said that the strait is open to US but they have to talk to IRGC before entering. Basically he is saying they need permission from IRGC to enter the strait, but if they ask, they will get permission.

 

[Mithridates]

Persian Gulf missile as in Khalij Fars?

Both Softkill approaches and hardkill approaches have been devised to neutralize this kind of threat by now.

[1] Softkill approaches include powerful electronic warfare gear and cutting-edge decoy systems to jam/spoof/confuse incoming threats. One of these decoy systems is NULKA which is very effective against radar-guided threats of types.

khalij fars is IRI guided

Shkval/hoot torpedo?

Again, both softkill approaches and hardkill approaches have been devised to neutralize this kind of threat by now.

"At present, American submarines use a combination of electronic warfare jammers and acoustic decoys to defeat incoming torpedoes. This works well against threats that use active and passive sonar to home in on their targets." - Tyler Rogoway

shkval/hoot is under water rocket, they are not guided.

All of the above is post 2002 stuff, based on lessons drawn from the much touted American Millennium Falcon naval simulation.

millennium challenge only stimulated the rocket boats, kamikaze boats and cruise missiles.