Army orders ALCOTAN Shoulder Fired Anti Tank Weapon System

[Zarvan]

That bold part is an understatement Hazrat! Why a sudden dislike? has this rocket insulted you Hazrat? Hazrat if you had bothered to visit the website it shows the various ammo it fires, I am talking about the C90 reusable system. So you were liking it before but not anymore!! Hmmn


Its Spanish not Mexican.

Mr my point it is we should buy a system which just RPG 7 can fire several rockets from its tube and still fire more and more not one which is disposable. For that best option is either go for Carl Gaustav if SAAB agrees to sell or develop something with either Ukraine or China or Turkey. Also get RPG-32.

 

[Path-Finder]

Mr my point it is we should buy a system which just RPG 7 can fire several rockets from its tube and still fire more and more not one which is disposable. For that best option is either go for Carl Gaustav if SAAB agrees to sell or develop something with either Ukraine or China or Turkey. Also get RPG-32.

Beloved Hazrat I said this on the AWAC thread, Carl Gustav is the best option, If you take your memory back a few days! But I suppose the Spanish product looked hotter. Don't blame you there Hazrat.

 

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[Zarvan]

Beloved Hazrat I said this on the AWAC thread of Carl Gustav is the best option, If you take your memory back a few days! But I suppose the Spanish product looked hotter. Don't blame you there Hazrat.

I give a dam about being hotter I also support Carl Gaustav problem is that sanction prone and I didn't knew about this disposable thing about Spanish product

 

[Path-Finder]

Different sources (authentic) have different views. Just google C90 rocket system and you will see what i am saying. Most of the links you will see mention C90 as a single use system janab.

You know the reason???

C 90 is a decades old system, originally came as a single shot disposable system. The targeting mechanism would be kept while the launch tube will be discarded after the shot is fired. The tube came fitted with the munition and could not be reloaded.

From the same site of this company:
http://instalaza.com/producto/c90-cr-m3/?lang=en

http://instalaza.com/producto/c90-cs/?lang=en
(but i guess you have already seen these products )

Now the company have worked and have developed/are developing a new reusable tube version, called C90 Reusable, this is the ONLY variant of family of other wise disposable rocket launcher systems.

Khair, Pakistan is going for ALCOTAN anyway so C-90 is not related to us. ALCOTAN, currently, comes as a single shot system. Only in future we may see some work done to make that tube reusable.

I give a dam about being hotter I also support Carl Gaustav problem is that sanction prone and I didn't knew about this disposable thing about Spanish product

Oh Hazrat! There are two C90's One is disposable and one is reusable.

 

[Zarvan]

Oh Hazrat! There are two C90's One is disposable and one is reusable.

Problem is confusion about which one is new and which one is old is not even ending some websites say alocatn 100 is replacing C90 some are saying opposite

 

[Areesh]

Not sure but I remember @Ulla posting pictures of a C90 or something similar captured by PA from some Indian soldier in Kargil war.

Do you still have that picture?? @Ulla

 

[Path-Finder]

Problem is confusion about which one is new and which one is old is not even ending some websites say alocatn 100 is replacing C90 some are saying opposite

Hazrat the official website makes many things clear. C90 Reusable, C90-CR M3, ALCOTAN 100 M2

That is it, No confusion no fuss Hazrat!!

 

[Deidara]

If ever India decides to invade Pakistan it will let pak play the big hand and go small itself. So that the bulky sluggish pak forces could be brought down quickly and efficiently in a single stroke. What it means is that India won't use tanks but rather it's infantry will blow up Pakistani tanks. Pakistan won't be needing anti tank missiles but rather sniper units to take out Indian anti tank formations using stealth.
That's where modern war is heading. Heavy forces are hunted down by lighter forces. And to take out those lighter forces even further lighter faster stealthier and more precise forces are required.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Its a very good addition and if it comes with a bunker buster warhead, then further plus point. ToT is must as its useful. But since its unguided so we need guided munitions. For infantry hj-12 kind of systems and longer range hj-10 systems.

Honestly for me it was hard to understand why buying those ? how RPG-7 work against the Armors and bunkers ? Hj-10/12 systems take time if i am not wrong , to fire those you need to be on a vintage point where you can have forward observer who can tell you about enemy armor moving .. what i think RPG-7 is here to stay for next 1-2 decades , i see modified sights on RPG-7 in Ideas 2016 ..

 

[Inception-06]

Not sure but I remember @Ulla posting pictures of a C90 or something similar captured by PA from some Indian soldier in Kargil war.

Do you still have that picture?? @Ulla

yes do you need it ? we had captured it during Kargil war 1999 !

 

[Inception-06]

Not sure but I remember @Ulla posting pictures of a C90 or something similar captured by PA from some Indian soldier in Kargil war.

Do you still have that picture?? @Ulla

Here is it:

 

[Areesh]

Here is it:

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Check it @Zarvan we have C90 too

@Ulla Thanks bro

 

[Awan68]

If ever India decides to invade Pakistan it will let pak play the big hand and go small itself. So that the bulky sluggish pak forces could be brought down quickly and efficiently in a single stroke. What it means is that India won't use tanks but rather it's infantry will blow up Pakistani tanks. Pakistan won't be needing anti tank missiles but rather sniper units to take out Indian anti tank formations using stealth.
That's where modern war is heading. Heavy forces are hunted down by lighter forces. And to take out those lighter forces even further lighter faster stealthier and more precise forces are required.

Lol, bhai u are mixing gorrila war with conventional one......

 

[Thorough Pro]

RPG's have a shorter range and lack aiming device (they are visually aimed)

RPGs are evergreen system [emoji4]

I doubt they will be taken out of service for decades. But can be made more deadlier by adding different warheads and good optical sights, if possible smart ones just like this new ones have.

Not so in this case. At least not to that extent. Remember Aiming device is bought once, rockets over an dover again, just like printers come free but their toners cost a fortune.

Sir, the cheaper the rockets are, the more expensive the targeting system is. If each rocket costs approx. 8000 USD then each targeting system costs approx. 80000 USD. If you make the rockets cheaper, the targeting system will only get more expensive. This is something to be used at infantry level. Imagine if each rifle cost 80000 USD. The costs are untenable. Now imagine if troops need to make a strategic retreat and leave behind some equipment. You are gifting more than 80000 USD to the enemy. Operationalizing this throughout the army will make us bankrupt. The system doesn't make financial sense except if I am missing something.

This looks like captured indian stuff

Here is it:

View attachment 398822

Why? because your source didn't know about it and you were not the first one to Profess its purchase on PDF?
How is this an out dated system?
How is RPG better than this system? Care to share your learned comparison with us?

Sorry but than this is totally crap thing better get RPG 32 or some other system instead of this


C-90 is old system Alotcan 100 is new system which in Spain in replacing C-90