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Army apprehends Pakistan's Border Action Team attack, security heightened

Yes,but to what purpose? Assuming you could actually scare them when they're pop. is 10 times more than yours and their landmass is like 6 or is it 8 times yours and they increasingly manufacture indigenous weapon systems . I don't have the details but this mindset led to 1971 which any unbiased observer would call a DISASTER.

Wow wow wow hold on man you took me seriously. I was just joking, you just assumed that it is us who every time who provoke the Indian side; remember it takes two to tango. And with Pakistan Army engaged on its Western border it does not make any sense of provoking tensions at your Eastern border. Indian Military can say whatever they want and apprehend as much as they want as I find them to be media attention hungry.


1971 was no Indian business and that's one reason we never trust Indian side, 1971 was an insurgency which helped in East Pakistan and then waited for to move in. If you are an unbiased observer you will do a lot of research on that before concluding it to be a disaster just because of our mindset.
 
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Can india just stop hallucinating for one minute of the day?! Whats next the ISI was seen at the International space station, talking to astronauts about sending a terror rocket.. Totally mischievous, deceitful and malevolent india is, just cannot stop plucking and fabricating these propesterous stories.
 
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They are coming, they are coming, they are coming, they are coming..... A random Indian soldier on LOC blabbering to himself.


Hmm.. your statement pretty much defines what is it that you live for. Such thoughts are detrimental to the peace and prosperity of human society.
The Indian armed forces are bigger, far better equipped and trained to handle such threats. But that is not the point here.

The point is, why shall we show any tolerance or humanity towards a those people who don't do the same for us.
 
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Hmm.. your statement pretty much defines what is it that you live for. Such thoughts are detrimental to the peace and prosperity of human society.
The Indian armed forces are bigger, far better equipped and trained to handle such threats. But that is not the point here.

The point is, why shall we show any tolerance or humanity towards a those people who don't do the same for us.
So you have a bigger army, trained people and everything. We have a much smaller army who is fighting a full scale internal war yet protecting its borders and still has time to send 'BATS'. Do you even think about what your media tells you? Can you imagine how irritating these constant blames from your media must be for all of us Pakistanis. Your media is the main source of our hatred towards you. We back and love our army yet you keep blaming it for everything that's wrong with your country.
 
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So you have a bigger army, trained people and everything. We have a much smaller army who is fighting a full scale internal war yet protecting its borders and still has time to send 'BATS'. Do you even think about what your media tells you? Can you imagine how irritating these constant blames from your media must be for all of us Pakistanis. Your media is the main source of our hatred towards you. We back and love our army yet you keep blaming it for everything that's wrong with your country.

Two points.

1. Don't draw context from my argument and try to deviate it towards some thing else. Take another look at what I was responding to, if you have to and then come back.

2. The border violations and the regular terrorist attacks that keep happening in Kashmir is not something that we can sweep under the carpet by simply blaming the media. There is significant amount of substance there, even after considering the sensitization of the media. I have seen some examples of Pak media as well. They are even worse when it comes to these issues. You have some really fanatical self-styled journalists there.
 
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Denial overload from pakistani members.
 
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Two points.

1. Don't draw context from my argument and try to deviate it towards some thing else. Take another look at what I was responding to, if you have to and then come back.

2. The border violations and the regular terrorist attacks that keep happening in Kashmir is not something that we can sweep under the carpet by simply blaming the media. There is significant amount of substance there, even after considering the sensitization of the media. I have seen some examples of Pak media as well. They are even worse when it comes to these issues. You have some really fanatical self-styled journalists there.
I have read what you were responding to and I quoted you for how you responded to it. The border violations happen. Its a fact. You need to think about which side is in a position to initiate border violations and then respond incase there's a reaction. If you think abut what your army is up to and what our army is up to these days, you'll get your answer. As far as media is concerned I agree we have some hate spreading journalists but they are very few as compared to Indian media and their intensity is not as much as well. Indian journalists talk like the are in a position to pass judgements and know each and everything about the incidents and hold Pakistan responsible. That's not how journalists are supposed to behave. For example the boat incident occurred few days ago. Congress party only raised a few questions about how authentic the claims were and this journalist almost called them traitors and accused them of being Pakistanis. This luckily doesn't happen here people are free to question and they are not blamed to be traitors.
 
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The endless ceasefire violations made by india, as the Pakistani army proactively roots out terrorists of all 'hues and colours' within their country, in conjunction with the perpetuating indian sponsored terrorism prevailing in Pakistan in the form of the TTP and india zealously supporting terrorism within Balochistan, cannot be passed as 'water under the bridge' anymore. "There is concrete evidence there". There appears to be a chasm and an evident discrepancy between what you're proclaiming and the actualities. 'Tone down the rhetoric', sir.


Two points.

1. Don't draw context from my argument and try to deviate it towards some thing else. Take another look at what I was responding to, if you have to and then come back.

2. The border violations and the regular terrorist attacks that keep happening in Kashmir is not something that we can sweep under the carpet by simply blaming the media. There is significant amount of substance there, even after considering the sensitization of the media. I have seen some examples of Pak media as well. They are even worse when it comes to these issues. You have some really fanatical self-styled journalists there.
 
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So you have a bigger army, trained people and everything. We have a much smaller army who is fighting a full scale internal war yet protecting its borders and still has time to send 'BATS'. Do you even think about what your media tells you? Can you imagine how irritating these constant blames from your media must be for all of us Pakistanis. Your media is the main source of our hatred towards you. We back and love our army yet you keep blaming it for everything that's wrong with your country.


Dude, I see every pakistani give this justification of war on one side to justify that they wouldn't want to open another front or send terrorists. The fact though is that proxy war in kashmir is a state policy and has its own set of infrastructure and teams. Kashmir, as most pakistani policy makers say needs to be kept simmering and even if there are multiple calamities and floods or defeats or deaths in pakistan the proxy war will not stop.

Kashmir is too important for pakistan to stop what it's doing there and any effort to internationalise it will be taken by the pseudo forces and militants that form the so called kashmir freedom fighters.
 
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Wow wow wow hold on man you took me seriously. I was just joking, you just assumed that it is us who every time who provoke the Indian side; remember it takes two to tango. And with Pakistan Army engaged on its Western border it does not make any sense of provoking tensions at your Eastern border. Indian Military can say whatever they want and apprehend as much as they want as I find them to be media attention hungry.


1971 was no Indian business and that's one reason we never trust Indian side, 1971 was an insurgency which helped in East Pakistan and then waited for to move in. If you are an unbiased observer you will do a lot of research on that before concluding it to be a disaster just because of our mindset.

My bad! It looked like you were cheerleading armed border crossers,insurgents really. What was I thinking!? Carry on!
 
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1971 was no Indian business and that's one reason we never trust Indian side, 1971 was an insurgency which helped in East Pakistan and then waited for to move in.

You should have thought about that before sending in infiltrators in 1965. Why expect a sympathetic view once you do that?
 
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You should have thought about that before sending in infiltrators in 1965. Why expect a sympathetic view once you do that?

I never asked for sympathies it was @kenyannoobie bringing 1971 to the discussion table. I have already mentioned somewhere on this forum that India did its homework thoroughly and succeeded in achieving its motives in 1971.
 
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Being in their sheer 'apprehension' mode, India will yet again blow up a few poor Kashmiris just as they did with the so called 'Terror' Boat, nothing else.
 
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This incident confirms my opinion on the real cause of Indo/Pakistani hostility. Pakistanis ,really what do you hope to gain from these actions?
dont buy too much on indian sources, this is their state propaganda which is decades old.
 
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