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[Titanium]

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A month old, year or a couple of decade in planning drdo news! Drdo plans are...

 

[Titanium]

Some more adventures of Arjun and DRDO:

Here's what the MoD had to say in March to the House Panel on Defence about manufacturing tank powerpacks in India: "Suitable indigenous power Packs are not available for application in MBT. Indigenous production of power pack through license production is feasible with enhanced production order for MBT Arjun considering the economy of scale. A project for developmentof indigenous power pack is planned in XI Five Year Plan."

Not much headway has been made on an indigenous GMS -- an indigenous laser range finder, day sight, thermal imager and fire control computer won't be part of the Arjun until beyond the hopeful second batch order. Here's what the MoD had to say about it: "There are few vendors in the world who can manufacture gunner’s main sight. DRDO is developing indigenous gunner’s main sight. It is likely to mature and be available beyond 124 tanks." ..The perpetual dream goes on beyond 30 years into infinity.

Now the funny stuff:
And finally, the tracks -- when I was at Avadi, I got the picture about why we're still importing tracks: the indigenously made rubber-coated metal pins that hold the indigenous track links together couldn't withstand the friction. The rubber would fray quickly allowing the pin's metal to come into contact with the track's metal, thereby quickly distorting it and resulting in a mobility breakdown. Since DRDO is still developing resistant rubber for those pins, we're importing the entire track assembly. Shouldn't take long though -- the CVRDE has apparently asked for this technology as well from some specialist agencies abroad. And this is what the MoD said in March: "Indigenoustrack is in advanced stage of development. It will be available for Arjun production tanks beyond 124 Nos."

 

[r4rehan]

i think india needs pakistan's AL-KHALID engineers to make ARJUN Pakistaniz are so talented and hard workers they can make their own MBT , SUB, and JF 17 thunder, Shaheen Etc !!! now it is possible we are friendz right na

 

[amunhotep]

The newly developed engine is also expected to power the Russian T-90S tanks to be licence built in India as well as an Arjun derivative, the Tank X.

i just don't get it

how can the same engine power two tanks in completely different weight categories

the arjun derivative is much heavier than the T-90S

it simply dosen't make much sense to me honestly

 

[Flintlock]

Some more adventures of Arjun and DRDO:

Here's what the MoD had to say in March to the House Panel on Defence about manufacturing tank powerpacks in India: "Suitable indigenous power Packs are not available for application in MBT. Indigenous production of power pack through license production is feasible with enhanced production order for MBT Arjun considering the economy of scale. A project for developmentof indigenous power pack is planned in XI Five Year Plan."

Not much headway has been made on an indigenous GMS -- an indigenous laser range finder, day sight, thermal imager and fire control computer won't be part of the Arjun until beyond the hopeful second batch order. Here's what the MoD had to say about it: "There are few vendors in the world who can manufacture gunner’s main sight. DRDO is developing indigenous gunner’s main sight. It is likely to mature and be available beyond 124 tanks." ..The perpetual dream goes on beyond 30 years into infinity.

Now the funny stuff:
And finally, the tracks -- when I was at Avadi, I got the picture about why we're still importing tracks: the indigenously made rubber-coated metal pins that hold the indigenous track links together couldn't withstand the friction. The rubber would fray quickly allowing the pin's metal to come into contact with the track's metal, thereby quickly distorting it and resulting in a mobility breakdown. Since DRDO is still developing resistant rubber for those pins, we're importing the entire track assembly. Shouldn't take long though -- the CVRDE has apparently asked for this technology as well from some specialist agencies abroad. And this is what the MoD said in March: "Indigenoustrack is in advanced stage of development. It will be available for Arjun production tanks beyond 124 Nos."

What are you jumping about? Name one developing country that has made a battle tank from scratch without outside help.

 

[amunhotep]

some pics of tank-x

 

[con]

Now the funny stuff:

What is funny about it?

 

[Titanium]

What is funny about it?

A nation set out to develop tank "indigenously" (is it copyrighted?) is stuck at rubber coated pins

Is it not funny....

the indigenously made rubber-coated metal pins that hold the indigenous track links together couldn't withstand the friction. The rubber would fray quickly allowing the pin's metal to come into contact with the track's metal, thereby quickly distorting it and resulting in a mobility breakdown. Since DRDO is still developing resistant rubber for those pins, we're importing the entire track assembly.

Don't they fell in love with indigenous word, hardly anyone uses as frequently as these ........

 

[Titanium]

i just don't get it

how can the same engine power two tanks in completely different weight categories

the arjun derivative is much heavier than the T-90S

it simply dosen't make much sense to me honestly

You get it, these suckers(DRDO) will come with propsal, name a good catchy name, show how much we can save by Indigenous design and development, get approval from politician. After a decade or two of dithering, they start whining how difficult it is to manufacture.......

Now you maybe wondering how come a nation which had so much engoineering talent as seen in vijayanagar period to mughal so much regressed. Well the DRDO as most of the organisation are infested with Brahmin/Bania, those who have not worked productively in their entire history and known only for swindling.

 

[con]

Now you maybe wondering how come a nation which had so much engoineering talent as seen in vijayanagar period to mughal so much regressed.

So what is you idea of super duper engineering? Renaming a rejected Chinese tank and calling it indigenous? Or declaring a missile can carry all types of guidance found in the world with just one test?

Well the DRDO as most of the organisation are infested with Brahmin/Bania, those who have not worked productively in their entire history and known only for swindling.

Still better than people who sell national nuclear assets to make cash for themselves.

 

[Flintlock]

Now you maybe wondering how come a nation which had so much engoineering talent as seen in vijayanagar period to mughal so much regressed. Well the DRDO as most of the organisation are infested with Brahmin/Bania, those who have not worked productively in their entire history and known only for swindling.

Lovely!! Keep up the good research work on Brahmins/Banias!!

 

[Titanium]

So what is you idea of super duper engineering? Renaming a rejected Chinese tank and calling it indigenous? Or declaring a missile can carry all types of guidance found in the world with just one test?

So the point is.... you are no better, do I have to say anything then? Hope the above statements are "Indigenous" (I falling in love with the word)not copy pasted

 

[Keysersoze]

Guys I suggest all sides take a break as this is not productive.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

What is funny about it?

Real funny to find it funny!

What is the big deal about the tracks I really don't understand, but because I do want to understand, I hope someone will clarify.

There are many glitches when an equipment is being developed. Therefore, I fail to understand what is so funny since it has not been explained.

For instance, for artillery pieces, the autofrettage, technically and if viewed superficially, is a simple process. But if it not done correctly, the equipment is as good as a slingshot and much more dangerous to the user!

 

[Titanium]

www.idrw.org / Indian Defense Research Wing

The Indian Army has sought a new generation main battle tank (MBT) even as it reluctantly prepares to receive the homegrown Arjun tank that has been over three decades in the making.

'What we have today is mid-level technology. What we need is a tank of international quality,' Indian Army chief Gen. Deepak Kapoor said Tuesday.

'I have no doubt that the DRDO (Defence Research and Development Organisation) will be able to develop indigenous capabilities for coming up with a better answer and more versatile armoured fighting vehicle (than Arjun) in the future,' he added while speaking at the inaugural session of an international seminar on Armoured Fighting Vehicles, the first to be held here.

Kapoor also called for synergy between scientists, users and producers to ensure the delivery of a cutting-edge-technology tank.

'The scientists cannot work in isolation. The users (the army) should be with them. So also should the producers, be they the public sector undertakings or private players. Only then will we see an indigenous armoured fighting vehicle of international quality,' the army chief maintained.

Kapoor's remarks were a clear indication that even as the Indian Army prepares to induct its first squadron of 14 Arjuns, it is not too happy with the tank.

These tanks, in fact, had been handed over for user trials last year and were returned to the manufacturer -- the Combat Vehicles Development Establishment -- with a list of defects that have now apparently been ironed out.

These include a deficient

1. fire control system,
2. inaccuracy of its guns,
3. low speeds in tactical areas -- principally deserts --
4. and its inability to operate in temperatures over 50 degrees Celsius.

The Indian Army laid down its qualitative requirement (QR) for the Arjun in 1972. In 1982, the DRDO announced that the prototype was ready for field trials. However, the tank was publicly unveiled for the first time only in 1995.

Arjun was originally meant to be a 40-tonne tank with a 105 mm gun. It has now grown to a 50-tonne tank with a 120 mm gun.

Genral Kapoor is a what....now? bafoon, idiot...lifafa for import ....keep it coming Indigenous Apologists.