Aren’t Rohingyas Bengalis, and Arakan integral to Bangladesh?

[Nabil365]

Bangladesh doesn't have a copyright of Bengal ,our president is a bengali and our province is poschim bongo and bangladesh navy doesn't have capabilities to take on bharatiye nowsena ,some noisy chinese subramanies won't win you your sovereignty which many in BNP chides is being taken by Bharat.


Yeah India is irrelevant is much good strategy when going to war with a indian neighbour ,Myanmar army have been fighting rebel militia from decades ,it is a battle hardened army it is increasing its strategic assets and till 2030 it will have respecatable coastal defence as well as a good navy and air forces the ludicrous claims of yours of capturing rakhine state of Myanmar will be good wet dreams as if till 2030 bangladesh will get a conventional edge over Myanmar ,it is speculation of highest order

http://m.economictimes.com/news/def...an-sea-bay-of-bengal/articleshow/51044876.cms


India and Myanmar have signed an agreement on standard operating procedure for coordinated patrols in the strategically significant Andaman Sea and Bay of Bengal even.

As part of the ongoing India-Myanmar defence relations, the fourth edition of the India-Myanmar Coordinated Patrol (IMCOR) was successfully undertaken from February 13-16 along the International MaritimeBoundary Line (IMBL) in the Andaman Sea.

Indian Navy ships Saryu and Bitra, along with Myanmar ships Aung Zeya and FAC 563, participated in the 4th IMCOR.

During the closing ceremony of 4th IMCOR, the Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) for IMCOR was signed between Indian Navy and Myanmar Navy.

Myanmar is only the third country with which India has signed a formal agreement for maritime coordinated patrols and reflects growing naval interaction between India and Myanmar, a statement by the Navy said.

Yep and Indians cried like spoiled brat when we bought those rusty submarine.Now go watch your small propaganda talk shows.

 

[TopCat]

Aung Zaya said Myanmar is gonna give Roginyas willing to stay in Arakan the citizenship. Hope it's true. Rohingya is definitely not Bangladeshi.

Its a whitewash.
Myanmar willing to give them temporary status like what they gave to other Indians. It means that they get a residency with no voting rights. Their children will have to apply for residency again when they become 18 and go through the same process as their parents and will continue for eternity. MM will have the authority to revoke the status anytime they want and kick them out. Not only that, rohingyas were uprooted and were denied any land registration papers but they have to prove with the papers that they belonged to the land before 1830. People even dont know the name of their ancestors 200 years ago. At least I dont know the name before my great great grand parent. Do you?

They are the son and daughter of that piece of land specially Maungdaw and Budhidang district. They will not accept this status there. Even Bangladesh asked them to accept it but they dont.

 

[UKBengali]

My plan personally?

Sit back and grab some popcorn.

It wont happen though. BD is not a fighting kind of country and both China and India will apply pressure on both sides to prevent it from happening. At most maybe some border clashes can happen.

LOL - India will have zero influence over BD.

Only China can stop BD attacking Myanmar.

Please advise what "pressure" India can apply to BD say around 2030?

bro we're just neutral and u can see who want to fight and annex arakan showing its mights. even Rohingya problem may be part of annexing arakan project. personally i'm against to go war until they start. always support to invite more chinese investment in that region to balance western's.

the west data showed the population of bangali roghingya is doubling every year. and western also said again we're making mass killing. we have no word. they want to show a reason to gain influence in the region like MDW of Iraq.

Now we're doing and follwing the suggestion of Kofi Annan led team.i hope it will be ok. bro

Let us look at size of GDP and hence what the eventual military power will be once both countries have modernised.

https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2017/01/weodata/weorept.aspx?sy=2017&ey=2022&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&pr1.x=82&pr1.y=8&c=513,518&s=NGDP_RPCH,NGDPD&grp=0&a=

BD in 2017 is 249 US billion dollars and this goes up to 387 billion dollars in 2022

Myanmar in 2017 is 72 US billion dollars and this goes up to 120 billion dollars in 2022

BD's economy will remain over 3 times as large as Myanmar's.
Pakistan has nuclear weapons to deter an Indian conventional attack, what will Myanmar have?

BD will simply use it's superior economic and military power to put this little upstart country in it's place
once and for all.

 

[Aung Zaya]

Aung Zaya said Myanmar is gonna give Roginyas willing to stay in Arakan the citizenship. Hope it's true. Rohingya is definitely not Bangladeshi.

well. we gonna award them as citizenships.but we wont give them an ethnic status which is impossible. Rohingya is definitely not Myanmarnese too. bro

LOL - India will have zero influence over BD.

Only China can stop BD attacking Myanmar.

Please advise what "pressure" India can apply to BD say around 2030?



Let us look at size of GDP and hence what the eventual military power will be once both countries have modernised.

https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2017/01/weodata/weorept.aspx?sy=2017&ey=2022&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&pr1.x=82&pr1.y=8&c=513,518&s=NGDP_RPCH,NGDPD&grp=0&a=

BD in 2017 is 249 US billion dollars and this goes up to 387 billion dollars in 2022

Myanmar in 2017 is 72 US billion dollars and this goes up to 120 billion dollars in 2022

BD's economy will remain over 3 times as large as Myanmar's.
Pakistan has nuclear weapons to deter an Indian conventional attack, what will Myanmar have?

BD will simply use it's superior economic and military power to put this little upstart country in it's place
once and for all.

lol so what BD have ? to overtake Myanmar armed forces..? yes. now BD have 3 time larger economy than Myanmar and nothing can do in both military and economic sanction on us. in 2022 , sure it will be the same. we wont stop in 2017. we also will grow in our rate. while BD is growing

 

[UKBengali]

lol so what BD have ? to overtake Myanmar armed forces..? yes. now BD have 3 time larger economy than Myanmar and nothing can do in both military and economic sanction on us. in 2022 , sure it will be the same. we wont stop in 2017. we also will grow in our rate. while BD is growing

How do you think Myanmar will stand up to BD by 2030?

Once BD's military modernisation is complete, it will have 10 squadrons of fighter/strike aircraft.
A good guess would be it would consist of the following:

1. 3 squadrons of SU-30SME(48 aircraft)
2. 3 squadrons of J-10b(48 aircraft)
3. 4 squadrons of J-31(64 aircraft)

Is Myanmar planning to spend 5-6% of GDP on a permanent basis to keep up with BD? If you did you will destroy your economy. You see, you have no choice but to defer to BD wishes as you have no way to counteract the BD military.

And another thing. Since Myanmar is full of ethnic minorities that would love to form their own state, BD may just start training them and supplying arms if it did not want the expense of using it's own bombs and missiles to destroy your infrastructure and military.

So take my advice and start being really nice to Rohingya, as otherwise BD will force you to be nice.

 

[Aung Zaya]

How do you think Myanmar will stand up to BD by 2030?

Once BD's military modernisation is complete, it will have 10 squadrons of fighter/strike aircraft.
A good guess would be it would consist of the following:

1. 3 squadrons of SU-30SME(48 aircraft)
2. 3 squadrons of J-10b(48 aircraft)
3. 4 squadrons of J-31(64 aircraft)

Is Myanmar planning to spend 5-6% of GDP on a permanent basis to keep up with BD? If you did you will destroy your economy. You see, you have no choice but to defer to BD wishes as you have no way to counteract the BD military.

And another thing. Since Myanmar is full of ethnic minorities that would love to form their own state, BD may just start training them and supplying arms if it did not want the expense of using it's own bombs and missiles to destroy your infrastructure and military.

So take my advice and start being really nice to Rohingya, as otherwise BD will force you to be nice.

funniest joke of the year..
who will take seriously u guys unless BD is at least 3 time stronger than MM.?
military building up take time more than u think. even u have money.

 

[UKBengali]

funniest joke of the year..
who will take seriously u guys unless BD is at least 3 time stronger than MM.?
military building up take time more than u think. even u have money.

"Forces Goal 2030" was announced around 2010.
BD's military buildup has been ongoing for 7 years already.

It already has 16 YAK-130 trainers as part of this plan, and this will prepare for the arrival of SU-30SME, J-10b and J-31 next decade.

You think it will take more than 20 years for military buildup then?

 

[HariSinghNalwa]

China will not give j-31 or if it will ever not in amounts you are talking even their airforce doesn't have that numbers in the coming decade bangladesh won't have any conventional edge against Myanmar,if bangladeshi thinks that their army would overrun the Myanmar like a steam roller but i don't from where this boasting come from ,economic success doesn't guarantee military success ,Myanmar is part of ASEAN with FTAs they could also have good rate of economic growth,the level of speculation and boasting i very high well we can't be too hard in them as once delusional bangladeshi thought that they could even annex india's north eastern states ,you can't argue with a believer as they have an agenda.

 

[UKBengali]

China will not give j-31 or if it will ever not in amounts you are talking even their airforce doesn't have that numbers in the coming decade bangladesh won't have any conventional edge against Myanmar,if bangladeshi thinks that their army would overrun the Myanmar like a steam roller but i don't from where this boasting come from ,economic success doesn't guarantee military success ,Myanmar is part of ASEAN with FTAs they could also have good rate of economic growth,the level of speculation and boasting i very high well we can't be too hard in them as once delusional bangladeshi thought that they could even annex india's north eastern states ,you can't argue with a believer as they have an agenda.

What makes you think India will even exist by 2047?

Edit - just checked and you joined yesterday lol

Earn some respect before challenging long-standing members.

 

[TopCat]

How do you think Myanmar will stand up to BD by 2030?

Once BD's military modernisation is complete, it will have 10 squadrons of fighter/strike aircraft.
A good guess would be it would consist of the following:

1. 3 squadrons of SU-30SME(48 aircraft)
2. 3 squadrons of J-10b(48 aircraft)
3. 4 squadrons of J-31(64 aircraft)

Is Myanmar planning to spend 5-6% of GDP on a permanent basis to keep up with BD? If you did you will destroy your economy. You see, you have no choice but to defer to BD wishes as you have no way to counteract the BD military.

And another thing. Since Myanmar is full of ethnic minorities that would love to form their own state, BD may just start training them and supplying arms if it did not want the expense of using it's own bombs and missiles to destroy your infrastructure and military.

So take my advice and start being really nice to Rohingya, as otherwise BD will force you to be nice.

Why will we pay our money to fight Burmese. It has to be burmese money used against burmese. Lets work on UN sanction and put few people under visa restriction list. In the meantime put pressure on Japan to not to divert any capital in mm.
China already slowed everything down. We need to work with China too.

 

[UKBengali]

Why will we pay our money to fight Burmese. It has to be burmese money used against burmese. Lets work on UN sanction and put few people under visa restriction list. In the meantime put pressure on Japan to not to divert any capital in mm.
China already slowed everything down. We need to work with China too.

Well, diplomatic and economic pressure would be ideal but how is this going to work if the West and India do not join?

The West/India have a vested interest in propping up this despicable nation(notice I did not use regime), and so I myself have come to the conclusion that BD will annex Rakhine and Myanmar's military and infrastructure will be destroyed with it.

 

[Nilgiri]

funniest joke of the year..
who will take seriously u guys unless BD is at least 3 time stronger than MM.?
military building up take time more than u think. even u have money.

They mad bro

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp

Like I said, BD is not a fighting country and never will be (especially given big brother intrusion and domination in their political set up).

Deep down they know that so they come here to dream instead

 

[HariSinghNalwa]

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What makes you think India will even exist by 2047?

Edit - just checked and you joined yesterday lol

Earn some respect before challenging long-standing members.

You Bangladeshi chiding on my join of this forum but didn't have answer how could Bangladeshi ever annex rakhine ,you could possibly tell if a naval blockade or swift movement of armoured regiment or whatever grand strategy you have in the box till 2030 will get you state of rakhine ,i guess sending your migrants in millions would be a sound strategy in india guess its not working in Myanmar


India will or won't remain shouldn't bother you cuz as you said india is irrelevant.

 

[UKBengali]

They mad bro

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp

Like I said, BD is not a fighting country and never will be (especially given big brother intrusion and domination in their political set up).

Deep down they know that so they come here to dream instead

You Indians can play your dirty little games to try to make yourself relevant, but it wont work. Anyway your multi-ethnic nonsense of a legal entity is sure to vanish before you even reach your 100 year anniversary.

BD will deal with Myanmar in it's own sweet time.

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You Bangladeshi chiding on my join of this forum but didn't have answer how could Bangladeshi ever annex rakhine ,you could possibly tell if a naval blockade or swift movement of armoured regiment or whatever grand strategy you have in the box till 2030 will get you state of rakhine ,i guess sending your migrants in millions would be a sound stratega guy in indiess its not working in Myanmar


India will or won't remain shouldn't bother you cuz as you said india is irrelevant.

I can barely understand what you are trying to say as your grammar is appalling. lol

This is my last post to you until you earn the right to be answered by me by building up your status with time and content of posts.

If you look at geography of Rakhine then you can see that it is cut off from the rest of Myanmar by the Arakhan mountains. BD army will literally drive into Rakhine and Myanmar will not be able to reinforce by land easily. Whatever mountain roads they try to use will be prey to BD artillery and fighter-bombers.
As for Navy, BD already has a head-start in submarines as it has two operational while Myanmar has zero.

Fundamentally BD has economy more than 3 times a large and is a united nation of 98% ethnic Bengalis, whereas Myanmar has a significant ethnic groups that would split away if given half a chance. 3 times larger economy will equal much more powerful military.

BD will come to dominate Myanmar and they will learn to accept this willingly or at the hand of BD's missiles and bombs.

 

[HariSinghNalwa]

Well Myanmar is only neighbour Bangladeshi can think to dominate in their wet dreams ,the bangladesh army which has never ever led a military operation against a conventional army even with tainted rebel past of BDR and there difficulty with command and control , i think some bangladeshi members here with their inability to solve rohingya problems ,are guilt - ridden to show infidel buddhist Myanmar there place has speculated potential wars but i think if it happens Dacca will fall again.