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Many Pakistanis on this forum say that India is afraid of CPEC or threatened by it.
But what about other countries?
Gulf countries?

A couple of weeks ago I posted an article from Al Jazeera (Qatar government) about the rights of Pashtuns in Pakistan.

(https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pakistans-pashtuns-get-rights-will-it-lead-to-peace.588759/)

I did so because it gave the impression that Qatar wants to undermine CPEC by writing about the rights of Pashtuns, and in other articles by praising PTM.

Now I found an article from an UAE newspaper (known to be pro-government).
In this article they write about the Baloch in Pakistan and their opposition to CPEC.

So, do you think that Gulf countries are afraid of or threatened by CPEC, especially Gwadar, because it will be a tough competition for them? Which they might lose?
And therefore try to slander CPEC or Pakistan in a more subtile way through their media?

The article from the UAE newspaper is posted below.
 
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Thousands vanish without a trace in Pakistan's restive Balochistan

Enforced disappearances have surged this year amid militant opposition to Chinese presence

Shah Meer Baloch

December 8, 2018

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A little kid with tearful eyes is holding the picture of his missing father during the demonstration. Rabia Bugti for The National

Hours after Changaiz Baloch organised a protest last week against two of the most recent enforced disappearances in Balochistan, the student activist joined a list of more than 6,000 people who have gone missing in the restive Pakistani province since 2001.

“The missing persons are not criminals. If they have committed any crimes they should be produced in a court of law,” Changaiz told The National at the protest in Quetta, the provincial capital, on Wednesday. “We just ask for political, economic and social rights of the Baloch.”

Soon after the protest, he was seized at a tea stall along with two fellow activists, Zarif Rind and Aurangzaib Baloch, by men in plainclothes, according to a friend who was with them. They have not been seen since.

Chaingaz had called the protest to demand information on Jihand Baloch, another student activist who was taken from his home along with his father and 14-year-old brother by men in uniform and in plainclothes on the night of November 30. Jihand's sister Mahrang said her father was freed the next day and was not ill-treated, but had been held separately from her brothers, of whom there has been no word.

All four student activists are members of the Baloch Students Organisation, a politically active group formed in 1967 that lobbies on student issues and Balochi and human rights. Although some members have entered mainstream politics — a former leader, Dr Abdul Malik Baloch, served as the province's chief minister — security forces claim it has ties to separatist militants.

Balochistan is home to a long-running insurgency fuelled by perceived neglect by the federal government and unfair allocation of resources relative to its contribution to the national GDP. Some claim that the province, accounts for almost half of Pakistan's land mass and shares borders with Iran and Afghanistan, was forcefully annexed after British rule ended.

Reports of enforced disappearances surged after a crackdown on the insurgency launched in 2008. Troops were accused of spiriting away suspected militants, their family members and sympathisers, along with political activists, students and dissidents.

A senior provincial security official told The National the claims were exaggerated.

"This is just a move to undermine security forces and ongoing peace and stability in Balochistan,” the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. “In Balochistan, insurgents, immigrants who fled to Europe, and even those who have been killed in military operations, are said to be missing persons.”

But the problem was acknowledged by Prime Minister Imran Khan during his campaign for the July general election. His party signed an agreement with an ally, the Balochistan National Party, promising to address the issue. Asked about missing people last week, Mr Khan said: “Balochistan is crippled with terrorism and there is involvement of India. So I had to talk to General Javed Qamar Bajwa, chief of army staff. Bajwa assured me his full support for resolving the issue. Even Bajwa said that they have released many of them.”

According to the Voice for the Baloch Missing Persons (VBMP), a group which pursues and monitors cases of enforced disappearances, people have continued to go missing under Mr Khan government. “Around 1,200 people have gone missing only in 2018 but 450 of them were picked up since Imran Khan became PM,” the group's chairman, Nasrullah Baloch, told The National.

The numbers indicate a steep increase in the rate of disappearances compared with the 5,228 cases recorded by VBMP between 2001 and 2017. The group's tally includes only cases where the person fate is still not clear.

The increase roughly coincides with a surge in Baloch militancy targeted at China-funded projects in the province. In August, a bomb injured seven people in a bus carrying Chinese engineers to the Saindak copper and gold mines in Dalbandin district. Last month militants attacked the Chinese consulate in Karachi, killing two security guards and two civilians before they were shot dead. In October, two soldiers were killed in an attack on the convoy of the Frontier Corps chief in Balochistan, Maj Gen Saeed Ahmed.

The attacks were claimed by the Baloch Liberation Army (BLA) and the Baloch Liberation Front (BLF). “We will not tolerate any Chinese military expansionist endeavours on Baloch soil," the BLA said in a statement claiming the consulate attack.

The BLA is the most lethal organisation in Balochistan, according to the latest report from Pakistani intelligence and the Corps Commanders which also mentions threats to the China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) passing through the province.

China is pumping almost $56 billion into Pakistan’s faltering economy through CPEC projects. Beijing plans to connect its Xinjiang province to the Balochi city of Gwadar on the Arabian Sea, where it is building a deep sea port.

“Enforced disappearance reports increased when the state’s institutions started working on the CPEC projects,” Nasrullah Baloch said. “The security agencies picked up political workers and student activists who asked for Baloch rights and questioned the CPEC and the security agencies.”

Some of those who have disappeared have not been seen again, while others who were released reported being being tortured. A former member of the Baloch Students Organisation who went missing in August 2014 says he was beaten and administered electric shocks for 18 days before being released.

"I was shown pictures of Balochi insurgents and commanders and asked if I knew them or had been in contact with them or if I, myself, had been working with separatist groups," he told The National.

He said that before he was freed, a man who called himself a major "told me that they had abducted me due to some wrong information" and apologised.

"I think they should have killed me because they snatched my peace, dignity and respect in those three weeks,” he said.

Baloch politicians have taken different stances on the issue.

Sardar Akthar Mengal, leader of the Balochistan National Party that allied with Prime Minister Khan in the election, raised the matter in parliament in August and submitted the list of the 5,228 missing people compiled by VBMP.

But Anwar Ul Haq Kakar, a senator from the Balochistan Awami Party that runs the provincial government, questions claims by families that their members have gone missing. “The issue of enforced disappearance is a very exaggerated issue,” he told The National.

The VBMP said information given by the government could also be misleading.

“We were told by the government that Abdul Raziq, who was one of the attackers on the Chinese consulate in Karachi, was also included in the list of missing persons,” said Nasrullah Baloch. “I made it clear to the government that Abdul Raziq who carried out the attack was son of Deen Muhammad and resident of Kharan district. But the Abdul Raziq who is still missing is son of Khaliq and resident of Mastung district.”

And now even those simply calling for clarification from the government are being disappeared.

“The voices for missing persons are going missing,” said Mehr Bano, Changaiz Baloch's sister. “There can be no worse cruelty than this.”

https://www.thenational.ae/world/as...ce-in-pakistan-s-restive-balochistan-1.800511
 
India is openly working against CPEC, even on diplomatic forums spoken against it.

Al-Jazeera of Qatar have all the freedom to run propaganda.

Whilst India has always tried to isolate Pakistan from it's strategic allies and have even used Iranian influence on sections of Pakistani population, those traitor Pakistanis duly delivered to RAW, believing they are serving Iranian interests.

Gulf will be the only market, which will make CPEC a success.
Stability and prosperity of Pakistan has always been supported by Gulf because it's in their interest as well.
 
Gulf will be the only market, which will make CPEC a success.
Stability and prosperity of Pakistan has always been supported by Gulf because it's in their interest as well.

Really?
See the two articles below.

Dubai and Gwadar: the silent economic war in the Gulf of Oman

14 August 2017

Excerpt from the article:

'Many economic analysts believe that Gwadar is another Dubai emerging on the world’s map. The controversial issue here is that an economically powerful Gwadar threatens the strategic influence of Dubai in the region. This challenging point, recently, has caused a silent economic war in the Gulf of Oman between two groups of countries. Pakistan, China and Qatar on one side. India and the UAE on the other.'

https://www.opendemocracy.net/north...nd-gwadar-silent-economic-war-in-gulf-of-oman

"New Dubai": how the Pakistani port of Gwadar threatens regional role of UAE?

16-12-2017

Excerpts from the article:

'The UAE economy is dependent on income from services provided via these ports. It is a source of generating gold without interruptions. Dubai is a unique logistics centre, and there are no other projects that could compete with him and to reduce its market share. But what might happen after the launch of the Chinese-Pakistani project that if the Gwadar port can attract international attention thanks to its geographical position and other advantages, mentioned above?'

'The leadership of the Emirates were quick to launch a preemptive strike on the project before it becomes a part of reality, as it is expected that the Sino-Pakistan project will have a huge impact on the port of Jebel Ali for ten years. To prevent such a development, the Emiratis are in two areas.'

'The first is the support of the Pakistani opposition, strengthening of its positions in the confrontation with the former Prime Minister of Pakistan Nawaz Sharif, a strong supporter of Chinese-Pakistani project that has been removed from office in July amid allegations of corruption. So, some sources indicate that this (largely) stood United Arab Emirates, after the investigating authorities have received information that the Sharif chaired the Board of the company, owned by his son Hassan in Dubai, and received a salary to the Bank account in the UAE until 2014, including for years after coming to power. The tax authorities did not know about the money, in consequence of which Sharif has been indicted.'

'The second is the revival of relations with the enemies of Pakistan in the region, headed by India. In particular, in 2015, i.e. a year when the government of Pakistan has announced that it will provide China to lease land at the port of Gwadar, took place the visit of Prime Minister Narendra modi in the UAE. It is known that this is the first visit of the Indian Prime Minister in the UAE for the last 37 years.'


http://csef.ru/en/politica-i-geopol...rt-gvadar-ugrozhaet-regionalnoj-roli-oae-8202

It seems that of the Gulf countries, the UAE seems threatened by Gwadar.
 
Really?
See the two articles below.

Dubai and Gwadar: the silent economic war in the Gulf of Oman

14 August 2017

Excerpt from the article:

'Many economic analysts believe that Gwadar is another Dubai emerging on the world’s map. The controversial issue here is that an economically powerful Gwadar threatens the strategic influence of Dubai in the region. This challenging point, recently, has caused a silent economic war in the Gulf of Oman between two groups of countries. Pakistan, China and Qatar on one side. India and the UAE on the other.'

https://www.opendemocracy.net/north...nd-gwadar-silent-economic-war-in-gulf-of-oman

"New Dubai": how the Pakistani port of Gwadar threatens regional role of UAE?

16-12-2017

Excerpts from the article:

'The UAE economy is dependent on income from services provided via these ports. It is a source of generating gold without interruptions. Dubai is a unique logistics centre, and there are no other projects that could compete with him and to reduce its market share. But what might happen after the launch of the Chinese-Pakistani project that if the Gwadar port can attract international attention thanks to its geographical position and other advantages, mentioned above?'

'The leadership of the Emirates were quick to launch a preemptive strike on the project before it becomes a part of reality, as it is expected that the Sino-Pakistan project will have a huge impact on the port of Jebel Ali for ten years. To prevent such a development, the Emiratis are in two areas.

The first is the support of the Pakistani opposition, strengthening of its positions in the confrontation with the former Prime Minister of Pakistan Nawaz Sharif, a strong supporter of Chinese-Pakistani project that has been removed from office in July amid allegations of corruption. So, some sources indicate that this (largely) stood United Arab Emirates, after the investigating authorities have received information that the Sharif chaired the Board of the company, owned by his son Hassan in Dubai, and received a salary to the Bank account in the UAE until 2014, including for years after coming to power. The tax authorities did not know about the money, in consequence of which Sharif has been indicted.

The second is the revival of relations with the enemies of Pakistan in the region, headed by India. In particular, in 2015, i.e. a year when the government of Pakistan has announced that it will provide China to lease land at the port of Gwadar, took place the visit of Prime Minister Narendra modi in the UAE. It is known that this is the first visit of the Indian Prime Minister in the UAE for the last 37 years.'


http://csef.ru/en/politica-i-geopol...rt-gvadar-ugrozhaet-regionalnoj-roli-oae-8202

It seems that from the Gulf countries, the UAE seems threatened by Gwadar.

Read propaganda... why?

Actually Chabahar is the port made to sabotage CPEC, which surprisingly missing from Indian propaganda, while Indian clod start policy is well known.

Gawadar has been handed over to China and the city is developing, terrorists are all history.
Dubai port is for Dubai and Gawadar is for Pakistan and potentially Afghanistan.
Ships docking at Gawadar bring goods to Pakistan and leaving take Chinese goods to Dubai port, at cheaper costs than compare to longer route. Gawadar actually help reducing Dubai's import bill.
 
India is openly working against CPEC, even on diplomatic forums spoken against it.

Al-Jazeera of Qatar have all the freedom to run propaganda.

Whilst India has always tried to isolate Pakistan from it's strategic allies and have even used Iranian influence on sections of Pakistani population, those traitor Pakistanis duly delivered to RAW, believing they are serving Iranian interests.

Gulf will be the only market, which will make CPEC a success.
Stability and prosperity of Pakistan has always been supported by Gulf because it's in their interest as well.

He conveniently forget Chabahar which was designed to sabotage Gwadar port's effectiveness.

But with Iran having the most sanctions, I doubt Chahbahar will succeed.

The Gulf countries will benefit from CPEC too. Instead of going through Malacca strait to send oil to China and Japan, they can go through Gwadar. Ignore the Indian, he is an idiot.

Can we say they are freedom fighters as you say so in kashmir ?
Balochistan is not disputed territory you moron.
 
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When khawaja Asif was minister his interview is on the record that uae is trying to sabotage cpec with the help of insurgents of balochs and ttp
But some sick always show it sectarian issue between Iran and Pakistan
 
Balochistan is not disputed territory you moron.

And who decides that ?
Balochis wants freedom, so it is disputed.

The Gulf countries will benefit from CPEC too. Instead of going through Malacca strait to send oil to China and Japan, they can go through Gwadar. Ignore the Indian, he is an idiot.

Sending oil to japan through pakistan ? lolz
 
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Can we say they are freedom fighters as you say so in kashmir ?

Kashmir is internationally recognized disputed territory and occupied by india. Balochistan, Khalistan, Hyderabad deccan, assam, nagaland, tripur, tamiaddu is not. It seems like your media govt and army has left no stone untouched to destroy the commonsense in bhartis.

And who decides that ?
Balochis wants freedom, so it is disputed.

So does khalistanis, assamese, nagaland, tripur, tamiaddu, muslims of india etc etc.

At least Balochistan joined Pakistan legally unlike bhartis who occupied Hyderabad Deccan and Junagadh Manvadar.
 
Of course they're threatened by it.

Take Chabahar port for example, if 2 ships were to dock there subsequently 200 would dock at Gawadar. Nobody wants to support a competing shop opening up next door to Dubai; especially since it has the potential to surpassing Dubai's port capacity by a margin of 60%
 
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