Are France and Sweden Developing 5th Generation Fighter Jets?

[royalharris]

Dont flatter yourselves.

don't keep fool yourself

 

[Hassan Guy]

Dont flatter yourselves.

it does look like a J-20 tbh

 

[Penguin]

The germans have no need to copy anything from the chinese; they actually invent.

don't keep fool yourself

Blablabla

 

[royalharris]

The germens have no need to copy anything from the chinese; they actually invent.


Blablabla

but the design do, keep fool yourself
i like german, but don't bring german here to certify your BS

 

[Penguin]

it does look like a J-20 tbh

a gripen, a rafeale and a typhoon also look alike.

but they do, keep fool yourself

Blablabla (you are so sharp you didnt even notice its a swedish, not a german system...And flygsystem 2020 is a single engine design)

 

[royalharris]

a gripen, a rafeale and a typhoon also look alike.


Blablabla

keep coverring your eyes

a gripen, a rafeale and a typhoon also look alike.


Blablabla (you are so sharp you didnt even notice its a swedish, not a german system...And flygsystem 2020 is a single engine design)

I don't care swedish system or german system, just focus on the design
It is you who mention german here. it is so malicious to Provoke a conflict between others
Put away your hypocrisy and pseudo Fair
Desperate loser mentality

 

[Penguin]

keep coverring your eyes


I don't care swedish system or german system, just focus on the design
It is you who mention german here. it is so malicious to Provoke a conflict between others
Put away your hypocrisy and pseudo Fair
Desperate loser mentality

Try posting something more usefull than oneliners saying china is best. Im not provoking anything between anybody else but myself and you. Please cite or quote my ' pseudo fair'. Or REPORT it. The only one with a fawlty mentality is you (pun intended)

but the design do, keep fool yourself
i like german, but don't bring german here to certify your BS

Nice edit.

 

[MilSpec]

a copy of j20?

sure, that exactly what this is...

 

[Penguin]

sure, that exactly what this is...

Thought so

 

[MilSpec]

Thought so

China has IP for all foreplanes and DSI. wait .......what?

Thought so

Keep fool yourself, go on.... I dare you keep him... go on.... ROFL

 

[ali_raza]

nowadays it's never one country affair anymore.in every major project u need alote of vendors to keep the costs down.its not cold war anymore now its all about money

 

[New World]

Alone I'd imagine it would be exceedingly difficult. They would need some guaranteed buys aside from their own (unless they have a 1000+ 5th gen airforce planned), or else their costs will skyrocket The best option would be a collaborative effort, but they might not have enough partners to make it viable.

Either way, it will be a huge undertaking, but given how France is, they might do it anyway, whatever the inefficiency and cost.

As for Sweden, with a total yearly gdp of less than 1 trillion, I struggle to see how they could fund a 5th gen program on their own for any reasonable time frame that wouldn't leave it obsolete by the time it became operational.

I think France will get partners from ME.

 

[ito]

France doesn't, while Sweden has.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Alone I'd imagine it would be exceedingly difficult. They would need some guaranteed buys aside from their own (unless they have a 1000+ 5th gen airforce planned), or else their costs will skyrocket The best option would be a collaborative effort, but they might not have enough partners to make it viable.

Either way, it will be a huge undertaking, but given how France is, they might do it anyway, whatever the inefficiency and cost.

As for Sweden, with a total yearly gdp of less than 1 trillion, I struggle to see how they could fund a 5th gen program on their own for any reasonable time frame that wouldn't leave it obsolete by the time it became operational.

SAAB is developing stealth technology in the nEUROn UAV together with other European partners.
They have multiple time mentioned Gripen UAV, so I expect some kind of unmanned fighter research to emerge
from that, but not in the short time frame.

 

[wiseone2]

I'm game for a 6th gen JV between India and France. Something that can become available in 2035, that's 10 years after FGFA's introduction.

i expect 6th gen fighter to be unmanned