Are atheists/seculars loyal to Islamic Republic of Pakistan ?

[Indus Pakistan]

The only people who are and have been truly loyal to Pakistan are the sons of the soil of various regions/provinces that define the territory of modern Pakistan. We the sons of the soil of Pakistan are Pakistani by default, we are NOT in this land due to any "accident", our parents, grandparents and great grandparents etc. were living on the same land before 1947 what later became as "Pakistan".

Bravo. That connect with the land. That relationship with the soil. Generations toiled it. Generations buried underneath it. Creates a potent mix. That is a loyalty germinated in the land that can be depended on. Look at the generations of soldiery that has fought and lived on the frontlines. They come from that stock.

 

[Areesh]

The only people who are and have been truly loyal to Pakistan are the sons of the soil of various regions/provinces that define the territory of modern Pakistan. We the sons of the soil of Pakistan are Pakistani by default, we are NOT in this land due to any "accident", our parents, grandparents and great grandparents etc. were living on the same land before 1947 what later became as "Pakistan".

True

Here are 10 examples of "sons of the soil" being loyal to Pakistan

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/10-privileges-that-ptm-enjoys-but-not-tlp.652174/#post-12065736

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Go worship Manzoor Gashteen or something

Okay ...

 

[Yankee-stani]

Bravo. That connect with the land. That relationship with the soil. Generations toiled it. Generations buried underneath it. Creates a potent mix. That is a loyalty germinated in the land that can be depended on. Look at the generations of soldiery that has fought and lived on the frontlines. They come from that stock.

I really think the expats make it difficult of identifying with Pakistan if you lived abroad for so long and disconected from the soil or land then you dont have the right to say who is who is Pakistani if you barley been there besides family visits or real estate

Okay ...

Hard to believe he ran Karachi for decades from small dingy London office

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Hard to believe he ran Karachi for decades from small dingy London office

Unlike PTM who are fringe of a fringe this ex-pat Gangu had support of millions and ruled Karachi into a terrorist haven.

 

[Syed1.]

Think mods need to look into racist posts from certain repeat offenders


@waz @The Eagle @Dubious @jaibi

 

[Yankee-stani]

Unlike PTM who are fringe of a fringe this ex-pat Gangu had support of millions and ruled Karachi into a terrorist haven.

PTM is just fifth column and easy can be crushed and the only folks who support them are folks who listen to VOA or RFEL which is CIA ran media orgs but I agree both are threats but PTM can easily be squished if needed but Karachi is also home to "buzineess" community who rather sell Pakistan for trade with India

 

[American Pakistani]

Stop whining man

Go worship Manzoor Gashteen or something

I have no idea who is bowing to those 5 percents?

Pakistan has never been ruled by these 5%. While people of 5 provinces ruled pakistan, these 5% fought against all odds in 71 and are left to rot. Some people are just ungrateful.

@Topic pakistan belongs to everyone regardless of race, cast, creed, ethnicity, religion, sect, etc.

 

[Areesh]

Unlike PTM who are fringe of a fringe this ex-pat Gangu had support of millions and ruled Karachi into a terrorist haven.

So Bacha Khan, Bhutto, Bugti, Mengal, Kher Bakhsh Marri, Asma Jehangir are fringe

OK

 

[Longhorn]

Honestly, I have never understood this. FACT: Pakistan came into existence because four provinces of the Raj elected to federate making 'Pakistan' from Punjab, Afghania, Kashmir, Sindh, Balochistan. It was the people of these provinces that made Pakistan.

Without these five provinces there could be no Pakistan. You can't build castles in air let alone countries in hot air. In 1947 these provinces joined the federation and Pakistan came into existence. Then. Yes then after Pakistan came into existence @Areesh hightailed it to a already existing Pakistan. Yet the 95% of Pakistan that made the country giving a place for the 5% from Gangadesh to get refuge today have to bow to the 5% hightailers.

Wtf???

Your founder was one of the hightailers if I'm not mistaken.
Where does that leave your assertion as to who founded Pakistan.
Don't forget the Bengalis who never came to join your 95%, which was nearer 75% btw.
Just because some people were lucky enough to find themselves on the right side of the line in 1947, doesn't mean they created Pakistan.
Muslims from all over India fought and worked to create Pakistan.
Please don't disrespect those who gave their all for Pakistan yet never made it to set foot on Pakistani soil.

 

[American Pakistani]

Okay ...

Your "beautiful" D......S will be proud of you.

While this was one of those ugly 5 percenter.

 

[Areesh]

Your D......S will be proud of you.
View attachment 603297

View attachment 603298

View attachment 603299

"Sons of the soil"

 

[Yankee-stani]

Your founder was one of the hightailers if I'm not mistaken.
Where does that leave your assertion as to who founded Pakistan.
Don't forget the Bengalis who never came to join your 95%, which was nearer 75% btw.
Just because some people were lucky enough to find themselves on the right side of the line in 1947, doesn't mean they created Pakistan.
Muslims from all over India fought and worked to create Pakistan.
Please don't disrespect those who gave their all for Pakistan yet never made it to set foot on Pakistani soil.

The Ideal map should have been a Independent Bangladesh in 1947 at least two Muslim states imagine that would have been packed punch against Hindu India instead we got a weak union and the 1971 debacle and Bengalis showing their true colors as a people a lot of mess regarding identity and where the country was going in the first 3 decades would have been much different

 

[Longhorn]

who was this here man who said:
“You are free; you are free to go to your temples. You are free to go to your mosques or to any other places of worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion, caste or creed—that has nothing to do with the business of the state.”

No idea.
Sounds like some libturd, probably not even Muslim, certainly nothing to do with Pakistan.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

The Ideal map should have been a Independent Bangladesh in 1947 at least two Muslim states imagine that would have been packed punch against Hindu India instead we got a weak union and the 1971 debacle and Bengalis showing their true colors as a people a lot of mess regarding identity and where the country was going in the first 3 decades would have been much different

Mountbatten must have laughed every day of his life over how he screwed Pakistan.

Then the IRA got him.