Are all Southeast Asia country encounter China in SCS

[terranMarine]

you are very upset Malaysia is smarter than vietnam? Malaysia are more rational people, they don't embrace nationalism blindly. Nationalism must come with real strength. Country don't have real substance and blindly believe nationalism will triumph all are courting death.

these brainless can only dream of the whole ASEAN vs China. Ain't gonna happen because they are smarter than the pinoys and our southern pet.
Also feel free to leave AIIB and sign TPP because according to Niceguy it will bankrupt China and VN will be the rising economic power

 

[cnleio]

1. Not all ASEAN countries have SCS issue with China except PH, VN, Malaysia and Brunei.
2. Trade dependant with each other (especially with China) mean most of the countries play the game smart instead of direct confrontation.
3. At this stage, only PH and VN have issue with China. The other two countries just sit back and watch. Some countries try to pull other nations into the dispute to gain support but failed.
4. Whole ASEAN cant unite because of their differences. U got first, third world countries and failed states in the same region. Different religions, languages, cultures and internal security issue in various countries... good luck.

Malaysia has good relationship with China ... both of us no conflicts in SCS.

 

[LacViet]

there is China and Indo-China.

In ancient time Chinese recognized that there is Jiao Zhi Sea, 交趾 characters in Chinese mean Vietnamese.

thks @Rechoice
for your map.

 

[Beast]

In ancient time Chinese recognized that there is Jiao Zhi Sea, 交趾 characters in Chinese mean Vietnamese.

View attachment 210584

thks @Rechoice
for your map.

This is not even an official map. Picking a few random picture and claim official is not helping your clause. VCP officially signed an agreement with CPC in 1954 official recognised PRC authority of paracel and spratly island.

 

[LacViet]

Malaysia has good relationship with China ... both of us no conflicts in SCS.

Following nine dashed claimant of China Malaysia does not have his coastline.

This is not even an official map. Picking a few random picture and claim official is not helping your clause. VCP officially signed an agreement with CPC in 1954 official recognised PRC authority of paracel and spratly island.

It is historic evident proof for that in ancient time Islands belong to Vietnam.

don't lie bro, VCP is politic party, does not have right to sign it.

Paracel and Spratly belong to South Vietnam after 1954.

 

[hans]

I think 9 dash line is claim of island in SCS.
we does not claim the waters..
When China claim and control these islands after Japanese surround, Vietnam has not yet been independent.

Following nine dashed claimant of China Malaysia does not have his coastline.
It is historic evident proof for that in ancient time Islands belong to Vietnam.
don't lie bro, VCP is politic party, does not have right to sign it.
Paracel and Spratly belong to South Vietnam after 1954.

 

[Beast]

Following nine dashed claimant of China Malaysia does not have his coastline.



It is historic evident proof for that in ancient time Islands belong to Vietnam.

don't lie bro, VCP is politic party, does not have right to sign it.

Paracel and Spratly belong to South Vietnam after 1954.

Yes, vietnam is smarter than Malaysia. By the way, paracel island is under who know? So who is smarter or who is dumb?

You can write 1million times paracel island is vietnam but nothing will change unless vietnam has national strength which you have not. You even need to follow China for AIIB. So much of national strength

If you still got so much pride, vietnam will never join China AIIB

 

[xunzi]

It is historic evident proof for that in ancient time Islands belong to Vietnam.

don't lie bro, VCP is politic party, does not have right to sign it.

Paracel and Spratly belong to South Vietnam after 1954.

You are more than welcome to take those islands back us if you think it belongs to you.

 

[LacViet]

I think 9 dash line is claim of island in SCS.
we does not claim the waters..
When China claim and control these islands after Japanese surround, Vietnam has not yet been independent.

Japanese invaded in to Islandes of Annam Empire, country is headed by our Majesty Emperor Bao Dai, Hue Kingdom is still existed in Vietnam from 1802 to 1956 when the changed the name changed from Annam to Vietnam state and also changed to Republic Vietnam by Ngo Dinh Diem.

France colonial is protectorate to Vietnam only.

In San Francisco conference 1951 for peace treaty with Japan after WW II, claimant of KMT China is rejected by general discussion by voting. PM Tran Van Huu of govt Vietnam State under leading of King Bao Dai, is official delegate presented on this conference.

You are more than welcome to take those islands back us if you think it belongs to you.

we have rights under rules of international law to take back. we don't care what Chinese invaders made illegally in our Islands and two archipelagos.

 

[hans]

So everybody has his reason to take these land..
What to decide ?

Japanese invaded in to Islandes of Annam Empire, country is headed by our Majesty Emperor Bao Dai, Hue Kingdom is still existed in Vietnam from 1802 to 1956 when the changed the name changed from Annam to Vietnam state and also changed to Republic Vietnam by Ngo Dinh Diem.

France colonial is protectorate to Vietnam only.

In San Francisco conference 1951 for peace treaty with Japan after WW II, claimant of KMT China is rejected by general discussion by voting. PM Tran Van Huu of govt Vietnam State under leading of King Bao Dai, is official delegate presented on this conference.



we have rights under rules of international law to take back. we don't care what Chinese invaders made illegally in our Islands and two archipelagos.

 

[liubang]

On 6 May 2009, Malaysia and the Socialist Republic of Viet Nam submitted jointly to the Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf, in accordance with Article 76, paragraph 8, of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, information on the limits of the continental shelf beyond 200 nautical miles from the baselines from which the breadth of the territorial sea is measured in respect of the southern part of the South China Sea.

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I don't think Malaysia gonna meow much over SCS. Maybe 10 years from now when the Chinese artificial Islands are some 20 nautical miles from Malaysia. Then Malaysia will whine about it, but the world probably have move beyond that by then.

Even Vietnam is not much of a player. It all came down to the USA and their need for freedom of navigation (both sea and air) vs China's hegemony over SCS.

 

[LittleFish]

It is US that counters China now.

 

[applesauce]

In ancient time Chinese recognized that there is Jiao Zhi Sea, 交趾 characters in Chinese mean Vietnamese.

View attachment 210584

thks @Rechoice
for your map.

in "ancient times" china owns the piece of land known as vietnam today.

 

[LacViet]

So everybody has his reason to take these land..
What to decide ?

The rules of international Laws.

in "ancient times" china owns the piece of land known as vietnam today.

China was illegally invaded, there was invasion of aggressors. we kicked you back to China long time ago.

 

[mrfly911]

I think 9 dash line is claim of island in SCS.
we does not claim the waters..
When China claim and control these islands after Japanese surround, Vietnam has not yet been independent.

Are you kidding me?