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Hi, I want to dedicate this thread to my apology to anyone who I have been harsh on lately. Tolerance and acceptance/listening of all views is the cornerstone of debate and I may have failed in this recently.

Please note that I have had an extremely tough life and am facing multiple problems recently and before. I lost three relatives, one very close during the last 3-4 years. The non close ones could have been murdered. And the close one drowned if I don't know something.

I have been struggling to find a job, be independent and my parents have become very different and cold to my problems since the last few years. I am thinking a good job would give me power and independence but I am still far from being independent. This and my parents doing some things are really affecting my self confidence.

On the other hand everything I have tried has failed. I wrote 2 books hoping that my financial situation will change with their publishing but I failed to get published.

Sorry if this sounds like a sob story and because I generally do not share personal problems I have kept this brief rather than detail my problems bit by bit which would even reveal what RAW did to my people. Anyway.

Note that I don't want sympathy or help. Just saying why I have been acting contrary to my core beliefs of liberty and listening to the other side.

I do admit I have been offended by some views. Needless to say I am a Karachite with unproven pashtun background but our family calls itself muhajir. Now I am very patriotic but our family moved a little late. I have seen my share of racism over this. Just because of the Indian muslims who are traitors and Afghan nationals who spit on my country, don't judge us all. Immigration is a truth and people move from somewhere, its the story of earth from the time of homo sapiens. What is the point of denying us when not only the institutions vetted us but also when we start businesses and cater to the needs to the nation by providing jobs. What happened, happened, we migrated to what is now Pakistan. Now its time to make the country better. I have every intention of serving Pakistan.

Anyway that is beyond the scope of this discussion. Here I want to apologize to anyone upon whom I let my anger out.

The only person I don't apologize to is one person I won't name which I am ready to do if he atleast admits he was wrong too. Its not you ghenda. :)

@save_ghenda @war&peace @Zibago @Divergent1 @Well.wisher @doordie @WAJsal @WebMaster others. Including banned members. Sorry webbie, mods for that mess you had to deal with a few weeks ago because of me.
 
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I am surprised such a smart and intellectual person like you is facing difficulties in finding a suitable job.
anyways, all the best :)
 
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I am sure you know me But you are superb brother.
Need to take leaf out of your book. God bless you, my well wishes are with you. I am sure you will pass thorough tough times and come out a better and mature man.
A man who realise his problems have solved them to a great extent already

Respect.
 
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Hmmm this highlights how much problems we all have in our real lives. The problems that make these point scorings or C grade discussions about who won this or who killed whom look miniscule and a waste of time.

I for one like you a lot and have never been wronged or felt wronged by you.

May Allah solve your problems and bless you with peace.
 
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Just because of the Indian muslims who are traitors and Afghan nationals who spit on my country, don't judge us all. Immigration is a truth and people move from somewhere, its the story of earth from the time of homo sapiens. What is the point of denying us when not only the institutions vetted us but also when we start businesses and cater to the needs to the nation by providing jobs. What happened, happened, we migrated to what is now Pakistan. Now its time to make the country better. I have every intention of serving Pakistan.

So you write a sob story (because that's exactly what this is...) and then go on about how your 'core' belief is all about understanding and then have the temerity to not merely judge but label 150mil+ Indian muslims as 'traitors'. 'Traitors' to what?

Then again...I suppose, this will gain you lots of 'likes' and 'positive ratings' - so you always have that to fall back on.

Ps. Good luck with your struggles - life is all about struggles, getting knocked down and getting back up. Keep the faith - things will improve.
 
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Hi, I want to dedicate this thread to my apology to anyone who I have been harsh on lately. Tolerance and acceptance/listening of all views is the cornerstone of debate and I may have failed in this recently.

Please note that I have had an extremely tough life and am facing multiple problems recently and before. I lost three relatives, one very close during the last 3-4 years. The non close ones could have been murdered. And the close one drowned if I don't know something.

I have been struggling to find a job, be independent and my parents have become very different and cold to my problems since the last few years. I am thinking a good job would give me power and independence but I am still far from being independent. This and my parents doing some things are really affecting my self confidence.

On the other hand everything I have tried has failed. I wrote 2 books hoping that my financial situation will change with their publishing but I failed to get published.

Sorry if this sounds like a sob story and because I generally do not share personal problems I have kept this brief rather than detail my problems bit by bit which would even reveal what RAW did to my people. Anyway.

Note that I don't want sympathy or help. Just saying why I have been acting contrary to my core beliefs of liberty and listening to the other side.

I do admit I have been offended by some views. Needless to say I am a Karachite with unproven pashtun background but our family calls itself muhajir. Now I am very patriotic but our family moved a little late. I have seen my share of racism over this. Just because of the Indian muslims who are traitors and Afghan nationals who spit on my country, don't judge us all. Immigration is a truth and people move from somewhere, its the story of earth from the time of homo sapiens. What is the point of denying us when not only the institutions vetted us but also when we start businesses and cater to the needs to the nation by providing jobs. What happened, happened, we migrated to what is now Pakistan. Now its time to make the country better. I have every intention of serving Pakistan.

Anyway that is beyond the scope of this discussion. Here I want to apologize to anyone upon whom I let my anger out.

The only person I don't apologize to is one person I won't name which I am ready to do if he atleast admits he was wrong too. Its not you ghenda. :)

@save_ghenda @war&peace @Zibago @Divergent1 @Well.wisher @doordie @WAJsal @WebMaster others. Including banned members. Sorry webbie, mods for that mess you had to deal with a few weeks ago because of me.
Excellent initiative so kudos ( I steal this word from @django :) ). Similarly, I extend my apologies to anyone who I may have messed up with and hurt ... It happens that in the heat of debate few feathers always get ruffled up. In the end, we are all friends and I don't hold any personal grudges against anyone.

@The Eagle @MastanKhan @Farah Sohail @BATMAN and all others
 
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I am surprised such a smart and intellectual person like you is facing difficulties in finding a suitable job.
All the best :)
The story of my later life would be internship after internship and no job. :)
I have almost given up and hope the latest opportunity will bear fruit. As I said, I am horrible with the personal stuff. I keep most of my difficulties to myself and I don't personally like sharing details. Wish you the best too margarita bro.
 
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Hi, I want to dedicate this thread to my apology to anyone who I have been harsh on lately. Tolerance and acceptance/listening of all views is the cornerstone of debate and I may have failed in this recently.

Please note that I have had an extremely tough life and am facing multiple problems recently and before. I lost three relatives, one very close during the last 3-4 years. The non close ones could have been murdered. And the close one drowned if I don't know something.

I have been struggling to find a job, be independent and my parents have become very different and cold to my problems since the last few years. I am thinking a good job would give me power and independence but I am still far from being independent. This and my parents doing some things are really affecting my self confidence.

On the other hand everything I have tried has failed. I wrote 2 books hoping that my financial situation will change with their publishing but I failed to get published.

Sorry if this sounds like a sob story and because I generally do not share personal problems I have kept this brief rather than detail my problems bit by bit which would even reveal what RAW did to my people. Anyway.

Note that I don't want sympathy or help. Just saying why I have been acting contrary to my core beliefs of liberty and listening to the other side.

I do admit I have been offended by some views. Needless to say I am a Karachite with unproven pashtun background but our family calls itself muhajir. Now I am very patriotic but our family moved a little late. I have seen my share of racism over this. Just because of the Indian muslims who are traitors and Afghan nationals who spit on my country, don't judge us all. Immigration is a truth and people move from somewhere, its the story of earth from the time of homo sapiens. What is the point of denying us when not only the institutions vetted us but also when we start businesses and cater to the needs to the nation by providing jobs. What happened, happened, we migrated to what is now Pakistan. Now its time to make the country better. I have every intention of serving Pakistan.

Anyway that is beyond the scope of this discussion. Here I want to apologize to anyone upon whom I let my anger out.

The only person I don't apologize to is one person I won't name which I am ready to do if he atleast admits he was wrong too. Its not you ghenda. :)

@save_ghenda @war&peace @Zibago @Divergent1 @Well.wisher @doordie @WAJsal @WebMaster others. Including banned members. Sorry webbie, mods for that mess you had to deal with a few weeks ago because of me.
May Allah give you patience to face your difficulties. Every one faces tough times in his life and it can also effect our daily mood. No matter how much we agree with each other or disagree with each other end of the day it is just our views. If you require any advise with your future and standing up on your feet would love to help.
 
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The story of my later life would be internship after internship and no job. :)
I have almost given up and hope the latest opportunity will bear fruit. As I said, I am horrible with the personal stuff. I keep most of my difficulties to myself and I don't personally like sharing details. Wish you the best too margarita bro.
I hope those are paid internships.
It is hard sometimes to find a suitable job, but you should have faith in yourself and sooner than later you would know why it did not work last few years. Everything happens for a reason.
Its not healthy to keep difficulties to self, hope you find someone to share your difficulties with.
 
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Hi, I want to dedicate this thread to my apology to anyone who I have been harsh on lately. Tolerance and acceptance/listening of all views is the cornerstone of debate and I may have failed in this recently.

Please note that I have had an extremely tough life and am facing multiple problems recently and before. I lost three relatives, one very close during the last 3-4 years. The non close ones could have been murdered. And the close one drowned if I don't know something.

I have been struggling to find a job, be independent and my parents have become very different and cold to my problems since the last few years. I am thinking a good job would give me power and independence but I am still far from being independent. This and my parents doing some things are really affecting my self confidence.

On the other hand everything I have tried has failed. I wrote 2 books hoping that my financial situation will change with their publishing but I failed to get published.

Sorry if this sounds like a sob story and because I generally do not share personal problems I have kept this brief rather than detail my problems bit by bit which would even reveal what RAW did to my people. Anyway.

Note that I don't want sympathy or help. Just saying why I have been acting contrary to my core beliefs of liberty and listening to the other side.

I do admit I have been offended by some views. Needless to say I am a Karachite with unproven pashtun background but our family calls itself muhajir. Now I am very patriotic but our family moved a little late. I have seen my share of racism over this. Just because of the Indian muslims who are traitors and Afghan nationals who spit on my country, don't judge us all. Immigration is a truth and people move from somewhere, its the story of earth from the time of homo sapiens. What is the point of denying us when not only the institutions vetted us but also when we start businesses and cater to the needs to the nation by providing jobs. What happened, happened, we migrated to what is now Pakistan. Now its time to make the country better. I have every intention of serving Pakistan.

Anyway that is beyond the scope of this discussion. Here I want to apologize to anyone upon whom I let my anger out.

The only person I don't apologize to is one person I won't name which I am ready to do if he atleast admits he was wrong too. Its not you ghenda. :)

@save_ghenda @war&peace @Zibago @Divergent1 @Well.wisher @doordie @WAJsal @WebMaster others. Including banned members. Sorry webbie, mods for that mess you had to deal with a few weeks ago because of me.
No need to apologize bro we all have difficult times you were always nice to me :-)

internship
Another internee :D
 
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The story of my later life would be internship after internship and no job. :)
I have almost given up and hope the latest opportunity will bear fruit. As I said, I am horrible with the personal stuff. I keep most of my difficulties to myself and I don't personally like sharing details. Wish you the best too margarita bro.
Why not start your own work and help your self.
 
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Wow. This is amazing response. Its getting tough from the start to respond to everyone. I thought the thread would quietly disappear to the bottom without response. PDF is a family. Among gaming, search for knowledge and watching tv series this, PDF, is a means for me to blow of steam. It does not only keep me apprised of the situation in Pakistan, which I closely follow but also is a tool that instantly makes me feel better. Just talking to you homies is a soothing experience.

PDF not only gives me hope that we can change the situation in Pakistan for the better but also gives me optimism. Because I am not alone in my fight for Pakistan's betterment. However we may disagree, almost all of us believe in Pakistan. That is hope right there buddies.

Oh damn I forgot our brother Vcheng. Do tag him if you know his id, can't find it. I was also harsh on him for being too "American". That also after I supported his right to free speech. I am silly sometimes.

Why not start your own work and help your self.
Would need investment and I don't want to ask my parents. They are retired and a little different. Its hard to explain. My first solution is to get a job, then think about business. Thanks bharwana for your offer to help.
 
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Would need investment and I don't want to ask my parents. They are retired and a little different. Its hard to explain. My first solution is to get a job, then think about business. Thanks bharwana for your offer to help.
hahahaha you don't need an investment to stand up on your feet. You have access to internet and you cannot stand on your feet that is very strange.
 
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Some people are very choosy. So they do not get the job they want.

Dont know if your that problem is caused by being choosy.
 
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