Anti-Jihad 'Savage' Ads Going Up In NYC Subway

[Bhairava]

Ideally, a collective Muslim response should have been decisive, firm, determined and sustained over a long period of time to permanently eliminate such negative activities from the territories of the enemies.

Its still not late to declare war on the unbelievers.

 

[Perceptron]

If there is any room for improvement, then it is not DIVINE, is it? Or perhaps you fail to comprehend the basic idea of divinity according to Islam?

And we are not beheading each other are we? But would I be just as composed if you were to assault me? No, my reaction would be appropriate. So basically what you see around the world today from Muslims is always reaction to inappropriate western actions.

U mean DIVINITY and PERFECTION substitute for each other ? Perfection is simply a quest to look inwards, believe what we can think logically and be at peace with oneself. An individual who accepts the word of a book as divine has simply stopped to make things better. Which BTW is precisely what's happening in the Muslim world. Acceptance of Divinity has led them to stop their quest in answering the wider questions of nature which is Improvement summed up in so many words.

 

[jayron]

Ideally, a collective Muslim response should have been decisive, firm, determined and sustained over a long period of time to permanently eliminate such negative activities from the territories of the enemies.

They are your enemies. why would or should they have to portray anything positive about you?

 

[Mav3rick]

With 1.6 billion and growing, why is Islam still so evangelical and confrontationalist?

I mean, everyone realizes that Islam is the newest on the block and the instructions per the Book to spread, but is there more to it?

Is it the fact that no other faith is as judgmental?

Or the fact that no other faith looks predominantly without at what the rest of the world is doing or should do, versus within at what is happening with those who already believe - and what they believe in?

Consider Islam to be the new kid on the block, a prime target for local bullies (i.e. defenders of other religions). Sometimes, the bullied do fight back

are any othe above countries have anything to do with you? NO.

Are 'we' representing all Muslims and Muslim countries?

 

[Awesome]

I am sure such an advert can be taken out by anyone who can pay the rates.

Yeah but being anti-Israel and Pro-Jihad in the same line would be seen as support for terrorism and it would be curtailed. I'm sure of it. When it comes to such things all the arguments that are being dissed right now would somehow become viable.

Thats because some muslims have managed to make Jihad a dirty word, associated with terrorism.. Put up an Ad that says, "Support Islam, defeat Israel", and I am virtually sure there will be no problems..

But its not. Law and justice system should work on facts, not sentiments. Anyone who pics up a dictionary can see what Jihad means. Sentimentally Israel's a dirty word for many Muslims too.

 

[Mav3rick]

Nostradamus predicted a clash of civilizations, a war between the Christians and Muslims. That it seems is coming to pass.

A Final war b/w Muslims and an army of Jews & Christians, led by the anti-christ (Dajjal), has long been mentioned as one of the signs of Qiyamah (Judgement day). Muslims believe that the Muslim army will be led by Imam Mahdi for most of the war and by Jesus (Hazrat Essa A.S.) for the final battle in which Hazrat Essa (Jesus) will destroy the anti-Christ and defeat the Christian and Jew army.

 

[Mav3rick]

U mean DIVINITY and PERFECTION substitute for each other ? Perfection is simply a quest to look inwards, believe what we can think logically and be at peace with oneself. An individual who accepts the word of a book as divine has simply stopped to make things better. Which BTW is precisely what's happening in the Muslim world. Acceptance of Divinity has led them to stop their quest in answering the wider questions of nature which is Improvement summed up in so many words.

Lol.....kid, Divinity would define 'perfection'! The God cannot be expected to make mistakes, His word is absolute, and beyond challenge. There were races before us that challenged God and their fate against natural disasters is a lesson for those who can actually 'see'.

By the way, Islam is a perfect religion with no room for improvement. Perhaps what you mean is for Muslims to find the perfect interpretation of Islam in to their lives. It's the interpretation that may deviate but the word of God cannot be imperfect.

 

[JayAtl]

Allow me to help you with a few things:
1) Anti-Indian agenda: Incorrect. I actually would LIKE to see peace between India and Pakistan. I think it'll save the world and millions of people. Second, I have a ton of friends from India. BUT, they call 'crap...'crap'. You guys here, try to portray India as the ultimate country on the planet and everything else that's not. I can give you a list of bad business practices by Indian businessmen in the US and people who offer open bribes to get business from local American companies. It's sad.
Similarly, you guys come on different sites and demonize Islam and especially the Pakistanis due to your personal bias and even the Americans at points.....compare to you, I'll speak the truth no matter what. If that makes me 'Anti India' in someone's eyes....that's fine.
You have a right to have an opinion. I have mine. I call that 'correction' to biased views being presented and I live in the most modern democracy the world's ever known so its my right given to me by my constitution that stands for human freedom. You are entitled to yours so use it as much as you can.
Btw, IF you read my posts (you said you have but I don't think you have), there are PLENTY of posts that criticize Pakistanis, Muslims on certain issues and actually talk about learning from India's educational experience towards growth. You conveniently forgot about those it seems like. I will ALWAYS give credit to where it deserves. That's just me.

When I criticize the Pakistanis and other Muslims and there are members here from that background and a ton of them, they don't come back with stupid high school arguments or call me arrogant, etc, etc. They actually click 'Thanks' on the criticism and debate nicely. You guys get SOOO emotional and so many of you come back and answer with utter nonsense at times.

Last but not least.....you've heard or seen about the 9-11 terror attacks in NYC on the media and in news.....I've seen those barbaric acts IN PERSON. You have NO IDEA how I feel about this terrorism crap. I've lived and seen the pain that I'd rather not talk about. The WORST thing you can EVER see or experience is when people are begging for their lives or jumping from floors down to take that .0001% chance that they know doesn't exist !!!! If I can, I'd wipe out Al-Qaeda like a child erases a name with an eraser on the slate!!! There are VERY few things I hate in the world. These bastard* sitting in the caves in ******* are on top of my hate list. So hopefully, you got my drift.

Oh, btw, thanks for mentioning Operation Cyclone. You should try to avoid discussing these kind of details on here. You don't know what crosses the line from a 'reference' to 'national security detail'. Just a friendly advice

again whole lot of gibberish to cover your real agenda, like your very mature comment of name calling DRDO in another post. Maturity that is shown in your last paragraph ultimately. You were not only not aware of our involvement in 80's calling it in the 70's, but the sheer silliness of warning me about an operation that took place in 80's and is documented on Google searches all over the net, written in books for decades and even had a movie made about it " Charlie Wilson's war". That would be like someone warning us to not talk about the Vietnam war on the net. Then top that with immaturity of citing bad business practices as emblematic of Indian's in the US is laughable. Enjoy your ride on the school bus this morning.

 

[vsdoc]

Consider Islam to be the new kid on the block, a prime target for local bullies (i.e. defenders of other religions). Sometimes, the bullied do fight back

Bro, no non-muslim looks at Islam or Muslims as easily bulllied.

You love your Prophet. Great. So do others. Please love peacefully.

You believe your Prophet's word is final and that of God, on which Islam has sole dibs. Great. Allow others their own beliefs peacefully.

You believe the way to overtake Christianity is to breed (pardon the crude analogy) like bunnies. Great. Please stop coveting those of other faiths.

You have your views on women and their station in society and your homes and families. Great. Please keep that to your own women and show ours the same respect.

You see other faiths leaving you behind economically, educationally, socially. Suck it up. And please do not expect the world owes you any favors or special allowances.

You want to be respected and accepted as equals in the societies of others. Great. Please show others the same respect and acceptance in your own.

You do not want to be killed and bombed and brutlaized on your own lands. Great. Please keep your dogs of war away from those of others.

You want special rights as minorities as protectorates, yet you think nothing of fingering the majority in their own land. Great. Please do not cry when they hit back.

You strive for the Ummah and eventual world domination by an islamic code and way of life. Great. Please do not grudge the rest of the world getting together to fight you tooth and nail and grind you into the dust before they allow that to happen.

Cheers, Doc

 

[karan.1970]

But its not. Law and justice system should work on facts, not sentiments. Anyone who pics up a dictionary can see what Jihad means. Sentimentally Israel's a dirty word for many Muslims too.

No one is asking Muslims to allow the acceptance of the word Israel anywhere.. Are they?? Similarly, If Jihad has wrong connotations for the non muslim world, so be it.. After all I remember a head of state apologizing for using the word Pa ki when that word has negative sentiments for Pakistanis only in their minds..

btw, I would like to see instances of acceptance of the word crusade in muslim world before you criticize reactions of the Christians to the word Jihad

 

[Kompromat]

Muslim radicals/extremists are savages, as we have seen time and time again.

All extremists are savages be it Nazis,Christians,Jews,hindus,Muslims or whatever.

 

[vsdoc]

Man Jihad is Holy War.

In today's world who / which country launches war on another in the name of religion?

So if the term Jihad is used, what is the non-muslim population of the world to take it as?

Sometimes you guys are seriously doodh mein dhule hue pakeeze.

P.S. Aeronaut I have waited patiently.

I cannot reach you. You are trying unsuccessfully.

Why did you ban me for coconut girls?

Do you not like them?

 

[GoodBoy]

we dont want them to respect us..
we want them to leave us alone and mind their own business..and stop disrespecting us.

Then stop going to their countries and manage your business in your own land.

 

[Viper0011.]

again whole lot of gibberish to cover your real agenda, like your very mature comment of name calling DRDO in another post. Maturity that is shown in your last paragraph ultimately. You were not only not aware of our involvement in 80's calling it in the 70's, but the sheer silliness of warning me about an operation that took place in 80's and is documented on Google searches all over the net, written in books for decades and even had a movie made about it " Charlie Wilson's war". That would be like someone warning us to not talk about the Vietnam war on the net. Then top that with immaturity of citing bad business practices as emblematic of Indian's in the US is laughable. Enjoy your ride on the school bus this morning.

Right....that's all you have to say? If I have an 'agenda' what's yours and your countrymen? You kill minorities in your countries and here you are bashing muslims like you are the most peaceful people on the planet (that's only to the white guy who's you boss btw). You guys lie, bribe western countries to get business, my countrymen and soldiers who served are without jobs because of you guys illegal business practices. You guys kiss white guys a** but then get aggressive to others? Paid for by the American tax payer and American jobs to be assertive and arrogant?

Show me ONE or TWO of the posts by Indian members that aren't bashing Muslims here without any reason. The topic is NY's subway....not Indian subway or how India thinks of Pakistan ( we all know how biased that is). So leave your agenda, stick to the topic and I won't show the horrible face of India that never shows up on tv because your lobby pays the western media and others!!! Hope this helps. Otherwise, you can keep saying I have an agenda and yes, that is to answer your biased posts towards Pakistan and Islam. Looking at the human right's situation in your country, you shouldn't be aggressively demonizing Islam or Muslims when your own child is ugly as shyt!

 

[Viper0011.]

Then stop going to their countries and manage your business in your own land.

Why are you NOT doing the same? Quit using your illegal means to achieve your national objectives in the US (pushing the American illegally out of work to give work to Indians both here and in India?, ask me, I'd love to give you names and companies who should be in JAIL right now), Sri Lanka, Tibbet, Bangladesh, Kashmir, Baluchistan, Karachi, ....internal killings of other religions like Christianity and Muslims??