Another Lost for Huawei in Germany

[CAPRICORN-88]

Everybody said impossible to build 5g without Huawei now Telefonica shows it can without. I said thousand times here on pdf. certainly it is possible to build 5g without Huawei. I don’t know why people believe Huawei is like the messiah than rains down 5g while other can’t?

5g is nothing more than a further development of 4g. 5g adds features that were invented in the last 10 years. Most of them originated in the West.

The success of Huawei has to do with chinese people. It’s similar with success of Japanese, Koreans, Taiwanese, Singaporeans in some extent Vietnamese. We are good at learning from others, copying, duplicating, making things en mass, cheaper, faster, better.

Also the opposite is true. Without injection of ideas, technology, cooperations from the West, Huawei has no future.

China has no future if the world closes all doors to China.

OK if you are satisfied that LTE plus or 4G plus is 5G technology, so be it.

It is common knowledge that USA and the West won't have a real 5G until 2025.

Be happy with that. No one is complaining.

 

[Viet]

OK if you are satisfied that LTE plus or 4G plus is 5G technology, so be it.

It is common knowledge that USA and the West won't have a real 5G until 2025.

Be happy with that. No one is complaining.

First, 5g standard is not finalized yet. What’s the point to have something that you may scrap it later?
Second, at the moment there are little to no application that need 5g.

5g is faster.

cool

what are you going to do with faster speed?

faster download of YouTube videos?

 

[striver44]

the objective to ban huawei (and other economic distancing) is to prevent future chinese leverage over US allies, the less dependent on china= more critical of china and their malign activity.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

Many if most everybody said impossible to build 5g without Huawei now Telefonica shows it can without. I said thousand times here on pdf. certainly it is possible to build 5g without Huawei. I don’t know why people believe Huawei is like the messiah than rains down 5g while other can’t?

5g is nothing more than a further development of 4g. 5g adds features that were invented in the last 10 years. Most of them originated in the West.

The success of Huawei has to do with chinese people. It’s similar with success of Japanese, Koreans, Taiwanese, Singaporeans in some extent Vietnamese. We are good at learning from others, copying, duplicating, making things en mass, cheaper, faster, better.

Also the opposite is true. Without injection of ideas, technology, cooperations from the West, Huawei has no future.

China has no future if the world shuts all the gates to China. Chinese should learn a bit of history but I think they don’t want to learn.

The truth is Vietnam has no future with USA or China market.
If either one of them closed it's door on Vietnam, Vietnam is history.
Right now USA is a failing economy.
Believe it or not, Vietnam is highly dependence on China. In fact the whole ASEAN is dependent on China huge consumer market.
Australia is in its first recession, they blame China for not buying.
You can continue to post nonsensical tales from the West all day long but facts are facts.
Latest figure show China May PMI is up while USA is down.

First, 5g standard is not finalized yet. What’s the point to have something that you may scrap it later?
Second, at the moment there are little to no application that need 5g.

5g is faster.

cool

First, 5g standard is not finalized yet. What’s the point to have something that you may scrap it later?
Second, at the moment there are little to no application that need 5g.

5g is faster.

cool

what are you going to do with faster speed?

faster download of YouTube videos?

what are you going to do with faster speed?

faster download of YouTube videos?

That will depend on what you understand about 5G as a technology instead of a standard.
Now you are quoting standard. Whose standard?

the objective to ban huawei (and other economic distancing) is to prevent future chinese leverage over US allies, the less dependent on china= more critical of china and their malign activity.

Why does USA has to do that?
Has it got the right to do that under international trading law?
Has USA infringed the WTO Trade Rules?
With 41.8 million Americans having filed for unemployment benefits and 50% of it's retail
Businesses closing permanently, the future is looking bleak for USA.
In 2008 China bailed out USA from its recession but it's ungratefulness has bring to itself very bad karma. I am afraid the depression is inevitable even with a reset.
USA as the world biggest nominal GDP may be over and it's US dollar is just unabsorbable toilet paper.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Germany’s Telefonica Deutschland picks Ericsson for 5G core network over Huawei

• Telefonica Deutschland says the choice to use equipment from Swedish supplier Ericsson will safeguard the security of its next-generation services
• Germany’s three main operators are removing China’s Huawei from their network cores

Telefonica Deutschland will build its 5G core mobile network in Germany using equipment from Ericsson, saying the choice of the Swedish supplier would safeguard the security of its next-generation services.
Germany’s three main operators are removing Huawei Technologies from their network cores but continue to rely on the Chinese vendor for the less sensitive peripheral radio access networks that will carry 5G traffic. “As a network operator serving the most mobile customers in Germany we have a special social responsibility to provide secure networks,” Telefonica Deutschland CEO Markus Haas said in a statement on Tuesday.

Telefonica Deutschland will build a complete 5G core network with full cloud compatibility into its infrastructure this year, enabling it to handle increasing data volumes and support 5G features like network slicing and edge computing.

https://www.scmp.com/tech/policy/ar...utschland-picks-ericsson-5g-core-network-over

Wow, what a loss.
Ericsson 5G center is working in China. Just search in Google.
Really, General masses know nothing.
The sweet reality of this world and era is, only money matters.

 

[Viet]

The truth is Vietnam has no future with USA or China market.
If either one of them closed it's door on Vietnam, Vietnam is history.
Right now USA is a failing economy.
Believe it or not, Vietnam is highly dependence on China. In fact the whole ASEAN is dependent on China huge consumer market.
Australia is in its first recession, they blame China for not buying.
You can continue to post nonsensical tales from the West all day long but facts are facts.
Latest figure show China May PMI is up while USA is down.


That will depend on what you understand about 5G as a technology instead of a standard.
Now you are quoting standard. Whose standard?


Why does USA has to do that?
Has it got the right to do that under international trading law?
Has USA infringed the WTO Trade Rules?
With 41.8 million Americans having filed for unemployment benefits and 50% of it's retail
Businesses closing permanently, the future is looking bleak for USA.
In 2008 China bailed out USA from its recession but it's ungratefulness has bring to itself very bad karma. I am afraid the depression is inevitable even with a reset.
USA as the world biggest nominal GDP may be over and it's US dollar is just unabsorbable toilet paper.

If you think you can live without others then be it. It’s chinese tradition. I can’t change nor care.

 

[kris]

In today's world economy is the most important force.
Economic warfare can bring down any country

 

[antonius123]

If Germany is ditching Huawei that means most of Europe will follow.

Also picking Ericsson, a European company, will help the company to get a chance to enter in other markets outside Europe.

I think a good decision in many levels.

Slim.

Other market will consider Huawei more because of cheaper and better solution.

To be honest, it doesn't matter if Huawei win or not. But at least they have be given an opportunity to join the tender. It like Ericson gave their proposal, Huawei did the same. If at the end German chose Ericson, because Ericson is an European company, then it's okay. It just business. Huawei can learn from the lesson to improve their wares.

The problem is if you ban them from joining the tender. That's political, not business.

Favoring Ericson due to nationality will violate free trade.

the objective to ban huawei (and other economic distancing) is to prevent future chinese leverage over US allies, the less dependent on china= more critical of china and their malign activity.

At the end they will be decimated. China market is huge, if they want to play decoupling their own tech companies who will suffer loss more.

 

[Prince Kassad]

Slim.

Favoring Ericson due to nationality will violate free trade.

For legal reasons Germany and many European countries will not ban Huawei. However, they'll find at least 99 excuses for not using them.

 

[striver44]

At the end they will be decimated.

sure sure

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

If you think you can live without others then be it. It’s chinese tradition. I can’t change nor care.

Please don't distorted my reply.
If any of these nations don't want to trade then it is NOT up to China, it is their choice.
Don't trade. Why do China has to deal with all these fabricated lies and unsubstantiated accusations? They similarly has a choice.
Vietnam should have cut itself off from China as a choice as you have always been favouring from what I have been reading.

China cannot force these to trade with them. There are many willing and more friendly nations.

If you regarded this as a Chinese culture that may be due to the fact, you are a Southern Vietnamese and it could be be your cultural upbringing but it is certainly not a Chinese culture that I've always known.

 

[Viva_Viet]

It's not as powerful as dollars but definitely better than dongs. We are alresdy buying metals and energy using RMB. Now with the word in crisis, alot more countries will be willing to trade in RMB.

US will weaken CN power first, then when CN is quite weak, they will accuse CN ships trading metal and energy wt "terrorist " nations and arrest all CN ships in Malacca strait.

Game is over

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

US will weaken CN power first, then when CN is quite weak, they will accuse CN ships trading metal and energy wt "terrorist " nations and arrest all CN ships in Malacca strait.

Game is over

What grass are you smoking?
Weaken China but how? Easier says that done.
Let look at some figure.
Exports accounts for only 20% of China nominal GDP and exports to USA only accounts for 19% of the 20%. Not much.
USA FDI to China has always been around 1.7%, no much really.

China latest release: May 2020 PMI is almost 55% while USA has dropped to 39%.
China economy contracted 6.8% for the 1st quarter lesser than anticipated while USA is expected to contract by 30~50% this 1H 2020.

As usual for you it is strangely all about bad wishes and bad thought.
Is it time for you to celebrate bases on your wild imagination? It is so surreal.

 

[Viva_Viet]

What grass are you smoking?
Weaken China but how? Easier says that done.
Let look at some figure.
Exports accounts for only 20% of China nominal GDP and exports to USA only accounts for 19% of the 20%. Not much.
USA FDI to China has always been around 1.7%, no much really.

China latest release: May 2020 PMI is almost 55% while USA has dropped to 39%.
China economy contracted 6.8% for the 1st quarter lesser than anticipated while USA is expected to contract by 30~50% this 1H 2020.

As usual for you it is strangely all about bad wishes and bad thought.
Is it time for you to celebrate bases on your wild imagination? It is so surreal.

U know, your post is just the same wt other Cnese ( Han patriot, Beast etc), so I wont waste my time to read the same thing again and again.

Just sit and see what will happen. Pls stop posting the same wt other Cnese.

Btw, I smoke Laos weed/grass.hope u know abt it,dude

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

U know, your post is just the same wt other Cnese ( Han patriot, Beast etc), so I wont waste my time to read the same thing again and again.

Just sit and see what will happen. Pls stop posting the same wt other Cnese.

Btw, I smoke Laos weed/grass.hope u know abt it,dude

You cannot change facts. Facts are facts.

ill bet again, no statement from ccp ever, them pinyin ever

Stop trolling.