Another Indian shot dead in US

[BHarwana]

Why are Americans killing Indians? this is strange.

 

[adil_minhas]

Yes, many of them do, look at Assad for example.

In geographical and genetic terms, West Asians are the closest to Europeans. I.e. Turks, Iranians, Arabs, Central Asians.

Whereas East Asians (and the related Native Americans) are the most distant from Europeans. Which makes sense because we are geographically the furthest away.

I thought as much you'll bring it Assad.

He's Alewite.

 

[Bharat Muslim]

I have to agree! With some provisos! I have never understood this Indian love affair with far right groups in the west. It is IMO driven by a cultural dislike of Muslims. " an enemy's enemy is your friend" However, this is like a child playing with matches, eventually you are going to set your own house on fire.

Do you yourself live in any of the Western country?

 

[Tiger Genie]

well Pakistanis do that for two reasons - first, to hide their nation of origin and second, try to get some IT guy or doctor/engineer type of credibility if they can get away with that. Can't blame them entirely.

@Mugwop - what's wrong with you muggie? I am just agreeing with what @lastofthepatriots wrote and you got your skirt all up in fire! take chill pill

 

[Paranoid Android]

Now every roadside crimes are given the color of racism..

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/sikh-man-shot-seattle-us-hate-crime-donald-trump/1/897013.html

Sikh man shot at in US: Victim out of danger, says Sushma Swaraj

 

[Trumpcard]

they have no dignity.. we ruled them for 600+ years

Haha..... 'We', 'ruled, 'them'..... You and your ancestors also come in 'them' and not the 'we', Infact you were ruled and finally converted whereas the others stood their ground!

 

[adil_minhas]

I think this violence is against Indians because they are Indians.

I don't buy the stories of mistaken identity and statistics floating around.

Kudos.

 

[Miripiri]

I got a warning for trolling!. Can anyone tell me when I trolled? So calling out pakistani members for their BS is trolling?
So I'm guessing indians get banned here easily? Any experience my indian friends??

 

[Paranoid Android]

well Pakistanis do that for two reasons - first, to hide their nation of origin and second, try to get some IT guy or doctor/engineer type of credibility if they can get away with that. Can't blame them entirely.

You caught the right point mate..There are few reasons.They are not pretending to be Indian but are just accepting the simple truth that we all are Indians , one people bound by blood and history.

a Pakistani is a citizen of the Islamic republic of Pakistan , but an Indian is anyone from the species indo sapiens .

If you see the history of the civilisation and the recent history of the subcontinent you can see how absurd the "2 nation theory" is . you may argue that at the time of partition they were under the british divide and rule influence and had serious communication gaps , but let me remind you this : there were some muslims who migrated from the going to be Pakistan region due to patriotism but there were no hindus , sikhs , jains or parsis who migrated to going to be pakistan.

so does that make followers of the 2 nation theory narrow-minded , intolerant ignorant bigots ?
from my point of view : YES

now , do the people of the subcontinent(not the ignorant ones) consider each other their brethren ? : YES

Is the Indian cultural Identity confined to only the Republic of India ? : NO

So technically , is a Pakistani/~ origin person eligible to identify themselves as "Indian" ? : YES

https://tribune.com.pk/story/11555/pakistanis-pose-as-indians-after-ny-bomb-scare/



Those are the natural sides I mentioned but if they are in America then it's for their(Not all Pakistanis)survival & desperation to the concession Indian gets..Indian communities & their culture is deeply rooted to Americans & vice versa.

There are also Americans who hate Indians whether Trump of not..2012 there was a shooting in Sikh temple & 6 were killed.There was no Trump in power.Such hate mongering racism are present in most of the nations..


Now all the hate mongering things happening mainly seeded by islamophobia & the thought process developed through it within Americans..
My point is Indians are obvious victims cause most immigrants there are Indians & are migrated to most place of work,has resemblance to the mass of most SA Islamic nations...

THIS MADNESS MUST STOP....

they have no dignity.. we ruled them for 600+ years

If really ruled us how have we maintained our real faiths..!May be you got ruled & was too coward to sold yourself up for a two penny faith adjustment.

 

[Miripiri]

You caught the right point mate..There are few reasons.They are not pretending to be Indian but are just accepting the simple truth that we all are Indians , one people bound by blood and history.

a Pakistani is a citizen of the Islamic republic of Pakistan , but an Indian is anyone from the species indo sapiens .

If you see the history of the civilisation and the recent history of the subcontinent you can see how absurd the "2 nation theory" is . you may argue that at the time of partition they were under the british divide and rule influence and had serious communication gaps , but let me remind you this : there were some muslims who migrated from the going to be Pakistan region due to patriotism but there were no hindus , sikhs , jains or parsis who migrated to going to be pakistan.

so does that make followers of the 2 nation theory narrow-minded , intolerant ignorant bigots ?
from my point of view : YES

now , do the people of the subcontinent(not the ignorant ones) consider each other their brethren ? : YES

Is the Indian cultural Identity confined to only the Republic of India ? : NO

So technically , is a Pakistani/~ origin person eligible to identify themselves as "Indian" ? : YES

Those are the natural sides I mentioned but if they are in America then it's for their(Not all Pakistanis)survival & desperation to the concession Indian gets..Indian communities & their culture is deeply rooted to Americans & vice versa.
Also all the hate mongering things those are happening mainly seeded by islamophobia & the thought process developed right through it within Americans..
Indians are being victims cause most immigrants there are Indians & are migrated to most place of work in America,hasresemblance to the mass of most SA Islamic nations...


If really ruled us how have we maintained our real faiths..!May be you got ruled & was too coward to sold yourself up for a two penny faith adjustment.

Tomorrow I'm converting to Christianity so I can tell some dude in Bolivia that I ruled him for 600 years

 

[Sky lord]

Do you yourself live in any of the Western country?

Not right now bro.

I think this violence is against Indians because they are Indians.

I don't buy the stories of mistaken identity and statistics floating around.

Kudos.

So the guy who did the shooting actually said he thought he was shooting an Iranian and you don't believe him because???

I guess if you know the shooters motives better than he himself does then you should get the nobel prize or something.

 

[Farooq]

Haha..... 'We', 'ruled, 'them'..... You and your ancestors also come in 'them' and not the 'we', Infact you were ruled and finally converted whereas the others stood their ground!

sorry to burst your bubble, but I am from the lineage of The Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم we haven't had a single mushrik in our family tree


so yes, we did rule you

Haha..... 'We', 'ruled, 'them'..... You and your ancestors also come in 'them' and not the 'we', Infact you were ruled and finally converted whereas the others stood their ground!

Also, those that converted to Islam realized that they were following a false religion. If you people were forcefully converted there wouldn't have been a single hindu left in India after ruling you people for 1000+ years. In Islam there is no concept of forceful conversion unlike your false religion where fellow countrymen were raped, burned alive and slaughtered in Gujarat.

 

[adil_minhas]

Not right now bro.


So the guy who did the shooting actually said he thought he was shooting an Iranian and you don't believe him because???

I guess if you know the shooters motives better than he himself does then you should get the nobel prize or something.

It's a uber transparent PR cover-up.

 

[Sky lord]

It's a uber transparent PR cover-up.

Cover up of what?

You seem like some kind of conspiracy theorist.

Let me tell you a few home truths. Don't take my word for it, check with any US person.

Americans are a very insular people. The average American will not be able to point out Germany on the map let alone India. India gets absolutely NO news coverage whatsoever in the US. If you ask the average person where India was they would assume it is somewhere in Africa or South America. Again very few people have heard about Hinduism. People know Islam since 9/11 . As for the smaller religions like Sikhism or Jainism even educated people would not have heard of it, no more than the average Indian would know anything much about Druze or Shinto.

Iran meanwhile is in the news constantly and unfavorably. It was part of the Trump campaign. The Iran nuclear deal was debated thoroughly. Conservatives are strongly anti - Iran. There is also much concern about ISIS and terrorism in general.

Another home truth, they have rule of law in America, you can't just cover up stuff. Please remember the Khobragade case. The Indian government huffed and puffed and pulled out all the stops. They even removed security barricades from the US embassy in Delhi and threatened trade war. What happened? The state of New York prosecuted the lady and she was accompanied out of the country. If she ever steps foot on American soil again she will be arrested. So you really think Americans are so scared of India they will do a "cover up".

Americans have no reason to pick on Indians because they barely know who Indians are. They have no reason to pick on Hindus because they mostly never heard of the religion. The only time India comes in the news is for the "out sourcing" of jobs problem. That affects mostly middle class , the people most likely to do battles with lawyers not guns.

Feel free to believe whatever conspiracy you want to but Try not to live in that puffed up make-belief world like a typical south Asian frog in the well.

sorry to burst your bubble, but I am from the lineage of The Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم we haven't had a single mushrik in our family tree.

I bet you're also 6'3", dating a supermodel and driving a Ferrari like the rest of us on PDF.



Jeez..another internet warrior!

 

[adil_minhas]

Cover up of what?

You seem like some kind of conspiracy theorist.

Let me tell you a few home truths. Don't take my word for it, check with any US person.

Americans are a very insular people. The average American will not be able to point out Germany on the map let alone India. India gets absolutely NO news coverage whatsoever in the US. If you ask the average person where India was they would assume it is somewhere in Africa or South America. Again very few people have heard about Hinduism. People know Islam since 9/11 . As for the smaller religions like Sikhism or Jainism even educated people would not have heard of it, no more than the average Indian would know anything much about Druze or Shinto.

Iran meanwhile is in the news constantly and unfavorably. It was part of the Trump campaign. The Iran nuclear deal was debated thoroughly. Conservatives are strongly anti - Iran. There is also much concern about ISIS and terrorism in general.

Another home truth, they have rule of law in America, you can't just cover up stuff. Please remember the Khobragade case. The Indian government huffed and puffed and pulled out all the stops. They even removed security barricades from the US embassy in Delhi and threatened trade war. What happened? The state of New York prosecuted the lady and she was accompanied out of the country. If she ever steps foot on American soil again she will be arrested. So you really think Americans are so scared of India they will do a "cover up".

Americans have no reason to pick on Indians because they barely know who Indians are. They have no reason to pick on Hindus because they mostly never heard of the religion. The only time India comes in the news is for the "out sourcing" of jobs problem. That affects mostly middle class , the people most likely to do battles with lawyers not guns.

Feel free to believe whatever conspiracy you want to but Try not to live in that puffed up make-belief world like a typical south Asian frog in the well.

You are welcome to your opinions buddy.

The only Indians jumping to defend the Americans are the ones living there or having business there.

It's clear that the US taps the net. And such Indians are mortally terrified of getting added to a watch list database.

No such fears here for this Indian. We live here and do our business here.

Cheers.