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Ankara weighs options in Syria stalemate


In the wake of last week’s failed bid by the Arab League to halt violence in Syria, Turkey now more than ever may be pressured into creating a humanitarian “buffer zone” in Syria, a form of intervention which regional experts say, carries unknown consequences.

“Some form of intervention in Syria will be considered seriously if events worsen and international action is absent.” Middle East expert Oytun Orhan told Sunday’s Zaman on Friday. Orhan, a fellow at the Center for Middle Eastern Strategic Studies (ORSAM), says that such a development would prove to be a “last choice” for Turkey in an eight-month conflict that has seen Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad crack down against an anti-regime protest movement.

Ankara has sent increasingly clear signals that it would consider such a “last choice” in recent weeks, with Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu telling the Financial Times in a Tuesday interview that “we hope that there will be no need for [a buffer zone or a no-fly zone] but of course humanitarian issues are important ... protecting citizens is the responsibility of every state.”

The increasing willingness to discuss a limited form of intervention in Syria comes amid widely held expectations that Wednesday’s Arab League cease-fire deal with Syria would fail to stop bloodshed, expectations which seemed to be confirmed when over 20 were reported killed by security forces in the 24 hours following the deal’s announcement.

The continuing violence, says Orhan, puts Ankara into a difficult position as it waits for the Arab League to condemn Assad after the failed deal, and to subsequently translate into Russian and Chinese support for sanctions at the United Nations. “Turkey wants to solve the crisis diplomatically. However, they must wait for more support in the UN, and until then developments continue in Syria.”

While Orhan believes that the development of a “buffer zone” to protect civilians within Syria is not unimaginable considering Turkey’s current protection of over 7,000 civilians in its own borders, the results of such a project remain untested. Joshua Landis, a Syria expert and director of Middle East Studies at the University of Oklahoma, cautions that involvement could provoke Turkey into direct conflict with Syria, commenting that “Turkey doesn’t need such an adventure.”

Orhan, who imagines that the buffer zone would be a limited space, perhaps 30 kilometers wide into Syrian territory from the Turkish border, says that the limited character of such an intervention would make hostilities between Turkey and Syria unlikely. “Neither the Syrian regime nor Turkey would seek an armed confrontation or an escalation of hostilities,” he stated.

Yet the inherent uncertainties of the conflict could complicate any clear vision of intervention. Orhan also imagines scenarios in which Turkey protects rebel held cities such as war-ravaged Homs, or supplies arms to the Syrian Free Army, a group of military deserters who have vowed to overthrow the regime. Orhan qualifies such comments by saying that these steps would only be possible given the continuation of a strong opposition movement and the belief that such steps could change the balance of the conflict.

According to Syria expert Landis, however, such potential escalations are exactly why Ankara must review intervention in Syria against the possibility of further engagement. “Once you go down that road, you’re going to war against Syria, and you’ve got to be prepared to finish the job,” he told Today’s Zaman in an interview on Thursday.

Talk of intervention also raises the question of how long Turkey might be willing to sustain a humanitarian intervention in Syria, and Landis believes that any mission would be up against a regime well prepared for extended conflict. “It is becoming increasingly clear to the West that Assad remains strong on the ground, his military has remained faithful, and he retains an important degree of support from a not inconsiderable segment of the Syrian people,” Landis told Sunday’s Zaman.

The multitude of unknowns surrounding intervention cause both Landis and Orhan to stress caution. “The Syrian problem involves lots of risks for Turkey. We have cultural and economic links in this country that cannot be understated. It is Turkey that will suffer politically and socially from any instability,” Orhan stated.

While Ankara begins to discuss the possibility of intervention, both experts say that the key to putting more diplomatic pressure on Syria rests with the Arab League. According to Landis, the Arab League will need to “follow the example of Turkey,” condemning the regime after failing to leverage its privileged relations with the regime into reforms.

Landis states that a change in stance from the Arab League will provide the best scenario for gaining a UN condemnation and sanctions, long awaited by Turkey and the West. Once the league condemns Syria, “then all eyes will be focused on China and Russia. Only by strong condemnation from the Arab League will China and Russia be forced into condemning Syria at the UN.”

Such official pressure would be a welcome development for Ankara. “Turkey is hoping for a solution in the UN,” Orhan stated. “Turkey has from the start wanted to solve this crisis diplomatically.”

Ankara weighs options in Syria stalemate
 
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Zulkarneyn gidecek yoksa bu forumda türk bölümü kaldırtrtırım. pkk lıya küfrettim diye bana bulaşmayacaktı
 
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The increasing willingness to discuss a limited form of intervention in Syria comes amid widely held expectations that Wednesday’s Arab League cease-fire deal with Syria would fail to stop bloodshed, expectations which seemed to be confirmed when over 20 were reported killed by security forces in the 24 hours following the deal’s announcement.

20 each day and it seems every day, cease fire deals are made reforms are promised and next day you read of another 20 killed seems Haaretz had it right six months ago.


One of the most scandalous tactics discussed in the document is the permission granted to secret government agents who are infiltrating groups of demonstrators to shoot army officers, in order to provoke the ire of police against the protesters.

The document prescribes meting out carefully measured violence so as not to trigger material support from sympathetic internationals. "The number of people killed must not exceed twenty each time, because it would let them be more easily noticed and exposed, which may lead to situations of foreign intervention," the document read.

'Secret Syria document' posted on Facebook details brutal tactics against protesters - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
 
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Oh, Turkey can do lots about Syria if it wants to. Turkey just don't want to give legitimacy to your Dictator. It's too sad though that he continues his killing spree on innocent civilians.
 
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Oh, Turkey can do lots about Syria if it wants to. Turkey just don't want to give legitimacy to your Dictator. It's too sad though that he continues his killing spree on innocent civilians.

Yes the Mighty Turkey would like to fuel a regional war that will hit the southern parts of your country ?
 
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We already have conflicts in those parts, remember PKK that your country has supported for decades? And how will you answer to the civilian deaths that your government carries out on its own people?
 
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We already have conflicts in those parts, remember PKK that your country has supported for decades? And how will you answer to the civilian deaths that your government carries out on its own people?

That was out of interests, some killed syrian soldiers so they deserve it, however as for the ones who died they will have to move on Revenge will only bring more Revenge.
 
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This regime can't comply with the conditions of the deal coz it know the day those heavy tanks go back to their barrecks millions will come out asking for its removal. bashar and his partners know only language of bullet. i hope arab league and turky come up with a plan to help the syrians and without the help of nato.
last but not the least syrians have come out and they will not back down until this regime goes away i wonder when the international community can put pressure on this criminal regime or stop giving him any legitmacy

TARIQ
 
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This regime can't comply with the conditions of the deal coz it know the day those heavy tanks go back to their barrecks millions will come out asking for its removal. bashar and his partners know only language of bullet. i hope arab league and turky come up with a plan to help the syrians and without the help of nato.
last but not the least syrians have come out and they will not back down until this regime goes away i wonder when the international community can put pressure on this criminal regime or stop giving him any legitmacy

TARIQ

The Arab League cannot do a thing about Syria it's a weak group that couldn't even tie their own shoe, look what the AL did when Saddam rolled his tanks into Kuwait noting it can't do anything without western support, as for turkey it will fuel a regional war.
 
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The Arab League cannot do a thing about Syria it's a weak group that couldn't even tie their own shoe, look what the AL did when Saddam rolled his tanks into Kuwait noting it can't do anything without western support, as for turkey it will fuel a regional war.

Assad and his corrupt men shouldn't test Turkey's patience. We can't stand by while Assad murders innocent children and women. That is why Assad has to go down. That is why Turkey supports anti-Assad groups. We should give more weapons to them so they can withstand the brutal power of Assad and his corrupt military officers.
 
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The Arab League cannot do a thing about Syria it's a weak group that couldn't even tie their own shoe, look what the AL did when Saddam rolled his tanks into Kuwait noting it can't do anything without western support, as for turkey it will fuel a regional war.

The war has already been started syrian gunboats shelling towns, syrian tanks shelling hospitals wake up this isnt 1982, assad cant murder his way out of his problems. syria started the war its just a question now will Turkey finish it.
 
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Assad and his corrupt men shouldn't test Turkey's patience. We can't stand by while Assad murders innocent children and women. That is why Assad has to go down. That is why Turkey supports anti-Assad groups. We should give more weapons to them so they can withstand the brutal power of Assad and his corrupt military officers.

We have already tested, you already have, Dr. Assad will remain as long as his followers remain, and we will support anti turk groups PKK and bring more dead turk soldiers, actually the FSA defectors that are attacking our troops harboured by turkey 20 of them were killed by Syrian Forces yesterday :sniper:
 
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The war has already been started syrian gunboats shelling towns, syrian tanks shelling hospitals wake up this isnt 1982, assad cant murder his way out of his problems. syria started the war its just a question now will Turkey finish it.

Turkey cannot do anything without the UN it will have to tell both Russia and china that they cannot support Dr. Assad anymore that means both Russia and China will lose their interests like they did in Libya which is unlikely, If Turkey attacks syria then it's entire south will be locked into a regional war and a guerilla insurgency against turkey we Syrians are nationalist and only the islamists will support turkey.

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that means more dead turks.
 
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We have already tested, you already have, Dr. Assad will remain as long as his followers remain, and we will support anti turk groups PKK and bring more dead turk soldiers, actually the FSA defectors that are attacking our troops harboured by turkey 20 of them were killed by Syrian Forces yesterday :sniper:

"As of mid-September, the United States and Turkey (both of whom had condemned regime violence against peaceful protesters in Syria) were reportedly working together to prepare for a post-Assad Syria, and to prevent a possible sectarian civil war. A “senior Obama administration official” told the New York Times newspaper, “there’s a real consensus” that Bashir al-Assad is “beyond the pale and over the edge. Intelligence services say he’s not coming back.”"
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/w...-ready-for-a-syria-without-an-assad.html?_r=3

And Syrian National Council and Syrian Revolution General Commission is located in Istanbul: Syrian National Council - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Syrian Revolution General Commission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This means Turkey plays a pivotal role in the opposition. Right now we are trying to habour support for our side. And once we got a legitimacy, with USA Turkey will make the finishing touch, if god wills.

EDIT: It has nothing to do with islamist or nationalists. This is about the right and freedom of the Syrian people. Syrians demand freedom and prosperity , because they look at Turkey and see it as a model.
 
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