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Vietnam Debates GMO Crops With Eye on History

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FILE - Rice terraces in Sapa, Vietnam.

When Vietnam moved economically from communism to capitalism in the 1980s, it enjoyed an agriculture boom that lifted millions from poverty. But today, new trade deals could threaten Vietnamese farmers, who are considering using genetically modified seeds to stay competitive.

In the water, the soil and the genes of newborns, Vietnamese people believe the chemical Agent Orange still endures 40 years after it was sprayed to kill plants in the Vietnam War.

Duong Thi Thanh Ha said that’s why she doesn’t forgive chemical producers Monsanto and Dow.

Today the companies sell genetically modified organisms, or GMOs. But because of the war history, Ha doesn’t want these companies to bring their products to Vietnam.

“We don’t believe them because they already create the Orange Agent to kill our Vietnamese people. Don’t one word say apologize. So we doubt. The guy is not a good guy. So how can they create something good for the human?” she said.

The decades-old resentment adds baggage to an already heated debate as Vietnam considers using GMOs on its fields. Farmers have been essential to transforming this communist country into a powerhouse exporter. But yields have stagnated in recent years, and farmers don’t know if they can compete with more foreign growers as new free trade deals start to take effect.

GMOs could help, said Tran Dinh Long, chair of the Vietnamese Seed Association. He believes planting genetically modified seeds could improve productivity, so that Vietnam can become a self-sufficient grower. But he wants farmers to look beyond GMOs, too, and adopt high-tech farming methods so they can compete

“Technology is not advanced enough yet, human resources aren't great yet, and capital is low, so we'll definitely be depending on foreigners. But if we want to increase our competitiveness, then we have to use high tech at an international level,” said Long.

Consumers are not sure about what to make of lab-modified seeds. Chung Hoang Chuong said he is skeptical of all the money to GMO companies spend to lobby politicians. He also worries about the risks - for his health, and for the environment.

“By introducing this genetically modified kind of thing, will it be healthy for the Vietnamese population? That’s one. Number two is, these kind of plants, when you introduce into a new ecological environment, would they be pushing away the normal, regular, natural Vietnamese subtropical vegetation?” asked Chuong.

In July, the Pew Research Center in the United States said it surveyed the American Association for the Advancement of Science about GMOs. It found that 88 percent of scientists consider genetically modified food to be safe, compared with just 37 percent of U.S. adults.

Nguyen Phuong Thao agrees with the other scientists. She teaches biotechnology at Vietnam National University and has researched GMOs for 18 years.

“My research, many others’ research shows that besides the good side, let’s say that, of the GMO, we care about the side effect of the GMO as well. But there is, so far, no evidence to show that the GMO will cause a problem for the animals or the human health,” said Thao.

Thao said GMOs don’t hurt the environment either. On the contrary, she believes they will help Vietnam endure climate change. Some seeds are genetically altered to withstand flooding or drought, the threat of which could increase in Vietnam if climate change worsens.

“Right now it’s not so serious, but in 30 years, you will need those drought tolerant crops for sure or many kind of GMO crops. At that time the natural crops will not work for Vietnam, as well as other countries,” said Thao.

With its long coastline on the South China Sea, Vietnam is considered one of the countries most vulnerable to climate change. That factor will make it even harder for Vietnamese leaders to decide how to move forward with GMOs.

Vietnam Debates GMO Crops With Eye on History
 
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Troll everywhere, sign. Get out, please. :offpost:
 
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When will you Chinese learn to stop trolling and accusing other countries of being or becoming US lapdogs when pictures like these are just one click away:

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So a picture means China is a lapdog of the US? :lol:

China and Russia are the 2 countries despised by the US because these 2 countries are pretty much always against US actions.

If China is a lapdog of the US, why does US consider China a threat?

Lapdog is doing everything the US wants it to do like Japan, India, etc.
 
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Troll everywhere, sign. Get out, please. :offpost:

Bro, I think the OP created this thread to retaliate because I recently accused him of being insecure. So maybe he is just trying to start a fight between Viets and Chinese, so I guess everyone has fallen into his trap.

So a picture means China is a lapdog of the US? :lol:

China and Russia are the 2 countries despised by the US because these 2 countries are pretty much always against US actions.

If China is a lapdog of the US, why does US consider China a threat?

Lapdog is doing everything the US wants it to do like Japan, India, etc.

And how is VietNam becoming a US lapdog? What Viet Nam is now doing with the US, China has done the same in the past.
 
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Bro, I think the OP created this thread to retaliate because I recently accused him of being insecure. So maybe he is just trying to start a fight between Viets and Chinese, so I guess everyone has fallen into his trap.



And how is VietNam becoming a US lapdog? What Viet Nam is now doing with the US, China has done the same in the past.

Vietnam has more independence than Japan and India. Japan is a total lapdog of the US. So is South Korea btw.

I give credit to Vietnam for that.
 
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Bro, I think the OP created this thread to retaliate because I recently accused him of being insecure. So maybe he is just trying to start a fight between Viets and Chinese, so I guess everyone has fallen into his trap.



And how is VietNam becoming a US lapdog? What Viet Nam is now doing with the US, China has done the same in the past.
You claimed that as a past. So who is the lapdog now? If you like past so much, I can dig out info of vietnam being a province of China few hundred years ago. Will that be relevant now? Please look into the mirror and see who is the real lapdog of US now.
 
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You claimed that as a past. So who is the lapdog now? If you like past so much, I can dig out info of vietnam being a province of China few hundred years ago. Will that be relevant now? Please look into the mirror and see who is the real lapdog of US now.

What? I didn’t accuse China of being a US lapdog in the past. I said, what Vietnam is doing now, is what China have also done in the past. That’s what I said in my previous post, read it again.

But, it seems like here you are saying that China was indeed a US lapdog in the past?? o_O your post is implying that Deng was a lapdog of the US in the past? Friend, why would you think that way? Have some respect for your past leader.
 
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What? I didn’t accuse China of being a US lapdog in the past. I said, what Vietnam is doing now, is what China have also done in the past. That’s what I said in my previous post, read it again.

But, it seems like here you are saying that China was indeed a US lapdog in the past?? o_O your post is implying that Deng was a lapdog of the US in the past? Friend, why would you think that way? Have some respect for your past leader.
Then vietnam is a US lapdog now. Deng is not such great leader for China after all, many of his open policy is the root of many problems in China including the honeymoon period with US which is his personal stance only , not the Chinese decision and I do not care but if you want to claim he is. If so ,then vietnam is a lapdog too. But if you want to claim Vietnam is not then Deng is also not a lapdog of US. Make your choice. I just watch the documentary of Y-10 and I hate Deng for cancelling that superb program.

Just like vietnam needs to choose between China or US. Vietnam is not such big power but just a tuna sandwich between 2 power. You cannot have the best of both world. Vietnamese must be practical. The root of vietnamese is they are not practical and too nationalistic and thinking they are some super power which they can dictate whatever they want but they are empty shell only. They maybe in another 30-40 years time. But now they has no stand in international stage. Before every great power alway have a humble past that need to eat humble pie by succumbing to the decision of great power. Choosing any side is painful but neccessary.

Sometimes Viets admit they love America, agent orange and Monsanto. Sometimes they change their mind. Then they remember their rabid hate for China and feel happy about being sprayed by USA.
THis sounds like a whore to me? :lol:
 
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sure, mosanto had a dark history in vietnam. but maybe we should put this one aside, and rather discuss pro and con of the mosanto GMO products. I don´t think it is helpful just either stick to the past (agent orange or other things) or condemn everything GMO without considering facts.

Monsanto Collaborates with Farmers in Vietnam for Sustainable Agriculture | Justmeans

Source is: Monsanto Vietnam Engages Youth for Sustainable Agriculture | Beyond the Rows

In other words: Monsanto PR/ propaganda :lol:
 
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it is not a big deal if a company promotes its products. actually I know too little about GM corns to judge pro and con, but from what I read the vietnamese government has an ambitious plan to develop a domestic biotechnology. and mosanto plays a part of it. and syngenta. in fact, vietnam has given permission to some GM corns developed by these two companies.

it is a big business.

Wer bekommt Syngenta- Monsanto oder die Chinesen? - netzfrauen– netzfrauen
 
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