Clutch
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Not really. Iran's terror activities in Balochistan are not BS. Something needs to be done regarding that.
An Open Letter to President Donald Trump on U.S. Tensions with Iran
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Not really. Iran's terror activities in Balochistan are not BS. Something needs to be done regarding that.
gambit
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No, they will not. They earned their pensions and the US government will honor their time in service no matter their political persuasions. The US is not like Iran.
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Hey, if Iran uses N(BC) weapons on Israel, will Israel nuke Iran? I'm asking for your honest opinion.No, they will not. They earned their pensions and the US government will honor their time in service no matter their political persuasions. The US is not like Iran.
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Above question is for you guys too.
what is n(bc)?
khansaheeb
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nuclear/biological/chemical
Absolutely, these weapons are made to be used and not stored for fun. That's why Iran will expedite nuclear weapons manufacture before they go in full scale war with Israel.
i will hope we will wipe teheran if iran will do it
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Are you stupid mate? Not everyone knows the yield of Israeli nukes and the damage they can do to it. "one bomb" country?
At first Iran should develop nuclear deterrence and then start seriously threatening Israel.
Since Israel is a "one bomb country" 1-3 nuclear bombs are enough to serve as deterrence.
Israel's major flaw and vulnerability is its tiny size....Israel has no strategic depth....Let me explain...
1) Israel is small...that means that if Iran deploys air defense systems like Bavar 373, S-300 or even Taesh in Lebanon or Syria ---they will cover entire Israeli airspace and will threaten not only military aircrafts but also civilian airplanes.
ISRAEL IS SO SMALL, ISRAELI AIRSPACE WILL BE CLOSED IF IRAN DEPLOYS BAVAR 373 IN SYRIA OR LEBANON
2) Israel is small ... only 15 facilities supply Israel's entire electricity, water, gas....this means that if Iran deploys Fateh-110 in Lebanon or Syria---Iran will need to hit 15 targets to leave Israel without electricity, water and gas supply.
You can imagine how it takes 3 minutes between the launch of precise ballistic missiles and until these missiles hit their targets in Israel and Israeli strategic infrastructure is destroyed.
3) Israel has one major port that is used for trade with the outside world---even today Turkey and Egypt have enough submarines to impose blockade on Israel and in the case of blockade- Israeli economy will collapse.
In the next 15 years Turkish Navy will grow to the point when it will be in much more powerful position to impose blockade on Israel if necessary.
It is obvious that Israel if under threat even today let alone near future.
Even today Iran can deploy Long-range air defense system in Syria which will close Israeli airspace OR precise short range ballistic missiles that can destroy strategic infrastructure of this tiny country.
BUT WHY IRAN DOESN'T DO THIS NOW? Why Iran restraints itself?
Because if Iran threatens Israel to this degree, Israel will go to war potentially using nuclear weapons....
So at first Iran should develop nuclear deterrence and then go aggressively against Israel.
So the main shortcoming of Israel is its small territory and population - and this shortcoming will serve as a main nail in Israeli coffin.
Jewish intellectuals and neocons in USA knew about these shortcomings of Israel: how such a small country will survive in this Muslim region in the long -run?
Iran can develop nuclear weapons and threaten tiny Israel with air defenses and ballistic missiles deployed next to Israeli border in Syria or Lebanon....Turkish navy can impose blockade on Israeli ports....Muslim Brotherhood can take power in 100mln Egypt and threaten Israel.......And like how it happened in the past- in the future, entire region can form alliance against Israel and threaten it simultaneously......
SO ISRAEL'S LONG-TERM SURVIVAL (NEXT 15-30 YEARS) IS UNDER QUESTION...How tiny Israel can survive in this region in the long-run? It can survive if entire region will be in ruins--if its neighbors will be destroyed, only in this case Israel's long-term survival can be guaranteed.
And then for guaranteeing Israel's long-term survival, we have Jews-Neocons taking power in Washington during Bush era and using the world's only superpower and its military to topple regimes hostile to Israel under pretext of democratization.
Iraq is destroyed, Syria is destroyed and Iran still stands (thanks to its deterrence in the Strait of Hormuz)
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we have enaugh missles to shout same time to wipe all the big cities in iran
Iran will not nuke you, because you have nuclear weapons.....But Iran can surround your tiny territory with such weapons that you will be turned into strategic cripple
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All of them retired. Except for the use of fraudulent name for Persian Gulf, I think they should be commended for doing this.
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All we know is that Israel is a child killer state and needs to be dealt with.
Jew Elliot Abrams- former Special Assistant to the US President and Senior Director on the National Security Council for Near East and former President's Deputy National Security Advisor for Global Democracy Strategy---- instead of thinking about USA and its interests is still worried about Israel.
He made a post - The Next Israel-Hezbollah Conflict
https://www.cfr.org/blog/next-israel-hezbollah-conflict
In this post there is a link to a paper by Gideon Sa’ar and Ron Tira: Political and Military Contours of the Next Conflict with Hezbollah
Tira is a strategist who was a long-time Israeli Air Force officer and pilot; Saar is an influential Israeli politician who was for 11 years a Likud member of the Knesset.
https://www.inss.org.il/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/adkan20-2ENG_4-59-73.pdf
Some quotes from the paper:
"Israel is exceptionally vulnerable to attack by precision weapons, as on the one hand it is an advanced Western country dependent on sophisticated technologies, and on the other it is small, with very concentrated infrastructures and very little redundancy."
"Thus Israel must define red lines, including Hezbollah’s acquisition of precision weapons, and particularly the manufacture of precision missiles on Lebanese soil, as well as the future deployment to Syria of high impact Iranian weapon systems (such as advanced surface-to-air missiles, coast-to-sea/coast missiles, and precision surface-to-surface missiles)"
"Precision weapons represent a new level of high quality threat because of their ability to disrupt and even shut down certain civilian and military systems for lengthy periods of time, and to cause billions of dollars of damage. "
"This is not just “more of the same” visà-vis the statistical weapons, and it could lead to an unacceptable threat for Israel."
"In certain senses Israel is unusual in its vulnerability to precision weapons, as on the one hand it is a Western country with advanced critical infrastructure, and on the other hand, it is a small country with concentrated critical infrastructures and little redundancy. Regarding electricity generation in Israel, for example, out of a capacity to generate about 17,600 MW of electricity, 28 percent is installed in only two sites (with 10 cumulative production units – turbines, for example). The six largest electricity generating sites in Israel (including private ones) account for 51 percent of the national capacity for electricity generation (using only 26 production units). "
"Thus the threat represented by even a small number of precision missiles that breach Israel’s countermeasures and strike critical systems, such as electricity generation, could be unprecedented. The picture is similar with regard to other critical systems, such as national electricity management; natural gas infrastructure; sea water desalination (only five facilities supply about half of Israel’s drinking water); and many other examples from civilian and military fields".
"due to the unique nature of the precision weapon threat, Israel must be prepared to escalate even as far as full war in order to thwart Hezbollah’s precision capability buildup"
"Deployment of military systems with Iranian personnel on Syrian soil (particularly the possibility of future deployment of high performance systems, for example, advanced air defense systems such as the S-300, coast-to-sea/coast missiles, and precision missiles) could create a new qualitative level of threat and increase the asymmetry in the reciprocal strategic and operational accessibility between Iran and Israel"
So even today Israel is deterred by Hezbollah which can inflict how they call it "intolerable loses and costs"---What will be Israel's strategic position tomorrow when Iran deploys more missiles and air defenses in Syria and develop nuclear weapons?
He made a post - The Next Israel-Hezbollah Conflict
https://www.cfr.org/blog/next-israel-hezbollah-conflict
In this post there is a link to a paper by Gideon Sa’ar and Ron Tira: Political and Military Contours of the Next Conflict with Hezbollah
Tira is a strategist who was a long-time Israeli Air Force officer and pilot; Saar is an influential Israeli politician who was for 11 years a Likud member of the Knesset.
https://www.inss.org.il/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/adkan20-2ENG_4-59-73.pdf
Some quotes from the paper:
"Israel is exceptionally vulnerable to attack by precision weapons, as on the one hand it is an advanced Western country dependent on sophisticated technologies, and on the other it is small, with very concentrated infrastructures and very little redundancy."
"Thus Israel must define red lines, including Hezbollah’s acquisition of precision weapons, and particularly the manufacture of precision missiles on Lebanese soil, as well as the future deployment to Syria of high impact Iranian weapon systems (such as advanced surface-to-air missiles, coast-to-sea/coast missiles, and precision surface-to-surface missiles)"
"Precision weapons represent a new level of high quality threat because of their ability to disrupt and even shut down certain civilian and military systems for lengthy periods of time, and to cause billions of dollars of damage. "
"This is not just “more of the same” visà-vis the statistical weapons, and it could lead to an unacceptable threat for Israel."
"In certain senses Israel is unusual in its vulnerability to precision weapons, as on the one hand it is a Western country with advanced critical infrastructure, and on the other hand, it is a small country with concentrated critical infrastructures and little redundancy. Regarding electricity generation in Israel, for example, out of a capacity to generate about 17,600 MW of electricity, 28 percent is installed in only two sites (with 10 cumulative production units – turbines, for example). The six largest electricity generating sites in Israel (including private ones) account for 51 percent of the national capacity for electricity generation (using only 26 production units). "
"Thus the threat represented by even a small number of precision missiles that breach Israel’s countermeasures and strike critical systems, such as electricity generation, could be unprecedented. The picture is similar with regard to other critical systems, such as national electricity management; natural gas infrastructure; sea water desalination (only five facilities supply about half of Israel’s drinking water); and many other examples from civilian and military fields".
"due to the unique nature of the precision weapon threat, Israel must be prepared to escalate even as far as full war in order to thwart Hezbollah’s precision capability buildup"
"Deployment of military systems with Iranian personnel on Syrian soil (particularly the possibility of future deployment of high performance systems, for example, advanced air defense systems such as the S-300, coast-to-sea/coast missiles, and precision missiles) could create a new qualitative level of threat and increase the asymmetry in the reciprocal strategic and operational accessibility between Iran and Israel"
So even today Israel is deterred by Hezbollah which can inflict how they call it "intolerable loses and costs"---What will be Israel's strategic position tomorrow when Iran deploys more missiles and air defenses in Syria and develop nuclear weapons?
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Aramagedon
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Iran has ability to enrichment uranium to 99% very fast. You arap trolls need to upgrade your low iq and stop talking from bottom.
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Yea, 100% we would use them.
