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An Era of Darkness: The British Empire in India’

The majority of Germans were innocent, such as my family. None of them were party members and yet had to suffer under Hitler.


Where did we accuse you or your family of snitching on Jews or taking advantage of their destitution? Or even of being members of the Nazi party.

If you say you , your family & most of the Germans were innocent then Goddamn it , they were innocent !!?
 
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I'm white and therefor more credible than the Chinese – at least from the POV of an Indian.
You overestimate yourself. And you are humorous. :)

Forget the Chinese. They were successful in defeating the Japs in the end. What about Germany?

Practically the only country to lose both the World Wars. :tdown:
And guess where the Nazis got this sick and disgusting ideology? Ever heard of Madame Helena Blavatsky? Right, she had an immense influence on the Nazi ideology after she spent many years living in India.
Mass murder of Jews, Gays, Roma, Gypsy blah blah <- Nazis <- Aryans <- Vedic Philosophy <- India.

Germans were victims. Innocent poor Germans. :D

Makes a lot of sense.

This was not a Khalsa army or an army belonging to the Sikh army. It was led by Captain Wade of the British Indian army, Sikhs, Afghans and Punjabi Muslims comprised this force, although the Sikh auxiliaries were over represented. Shah Soojah also had his Afghan men with the force, and the expedition was designed to support a British friendly ruler.

The expedition is covered extensively by Sir John William Kaye in his book "History of the war in Afghanistan"
True that.
 
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The Afghans would have been back to strength in a short time span. The Sikhs never set foot in Afghanistan, where did you get this from? The Sikhs never got past the Kyber Pass....
The Marathas were a regional power, and never had the ability, arms or expertise to take a war barely beyond their realms.


Marathas were always the real power in all the lands of ancient Rig Vedic tribes .

Have you forget 1857 ? Have you forget lakhs of Awadhis ( Hindustanis ) gone to fight along side the Afghans
 
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The only truth in it is where every British ruled when they left there are still a Fup messed millions dies bcos of that novel freakin empire.
 
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The only truth in it is where every British ruled when they left there are still a Fup messed millions dies bcos of that novel freakin empire.

British came to India in the name of trade but they made Indians to fight with Indians which resulted in the deaths of millions of Indians and we lost our ancient territories.
 
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Well said, without British, current India wouldn't exist. It's British raj merged these hundreds of small states together, and stole other people's land. For example, India northeastern 7 sisters, the people there do not look like subcontinent, before British, India never ruled or have any influence there.
Exactly, they can keep blaming us for all their ills , while ignoring all the good deeds we also did as colonial master back then. I have heard such whinning so many times, music to our ears.
 
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http://indianexpress.com/article/in...-british-to-apologise-shashi-tharoor-4475456/

Congress MP and author Shashi Tharoor on Sunday said the Jallianwala Bagh centenary in 2019 will be a “good time” for the British to apologise to the Indians for wrongs committed during their rule. The former diplomat, who was speaking on his book ‘An Era of Darkness: The British Empire In India’ before inaugurating the Kolkata Literary Festival-2017, said, “Either the British Prime Minister or a member of the royal family can come and convey their own profound apologies to the people of India, not just for that atrocity (Jallianwala Bagh massacre) but for all wrongs done during the empire.”

“Why not use that opportunity ? … that would be a very fine gesture because after all the wrongs were done in the name of the Crown,” he said. According to him it’s never too late to admit. “But the fact is that what the British have done is opposite.”

“They (British) have brushed it under the carpet. There is a certain historical amnesia. You are finding it in the way in which the British are relating to their own colonial past and on top of that, a lot of romanticising of the empire – a lot of self justification is taking place, including, British historians today, who praise the empire as a good thing,” Tharoor said.

“I am concerned, what is to my mind the best thing to do is to seek a certain atonement, which in the case of the British they have never apologised to the people of India for what was done here for 200 years. There are a couple of examples I have mentioned in the preface of the book,” he said.

He gave the example of the Canada Prime Minister Justin Trudeau who apologised for the 1914 Komagata Maru incident where hundreds of Hindu, Sikh and Muslim immigrants were denied entry into Canada and turned away from the port of Vancouver to return to an uncertain and ultimately violent fate in India.

Tharoor said, “London would not look like London today without the resources that were looted from India and from the other colonies.”

He said his latest book was prompted by his speech at the Oxford University in 2015. “The speech itself, to be earnest was sparked-off by Oxford Union debate choosing a topic about Britain owning reparations to former colonies.”

“Reparations particularly were not of great interest to me in the sense that I don’t think you can calculate the loss and damage done in any reasonable terms today,” he said.

“Any sum that is credible to make up for the damage and the loot would not be payable and any sum that is payable would not be credible,” Tharoor said.

According to him things would be fine once such an apology is made. “Once an act of atonement has taken place we can be more free to concentrate on today’s relationship, which is after all a relationship of sovereign equals which is not today a one-sided colonial relationship anymore,” he explained.

” … I believe history should be confronted for itself and not as something that is intended to influence today’s relationship,” he said, adding “I am not suggesting that our policies towards Britain today should be in anyway different.”

“As far as we are concerned, the past should be dealt with for its own sake and on its own terms. I am not suggesting anything about today’s relationship,” he said.

On his book ‘An Era Of Darkness: The British Empire In India’, Tharoor said it goes into some detail about the nature of British rule in India — the financial and the expropriations. “It also takes up the various arguments in favour of the empire and discredits them,” he said.

“Obviously Bengal played such an important role in the freedom struggle that a book like this would be of some particular interest here I assume,” he said it has been well received in the country.

The British edition of the book will be out on March 2 this year.
 
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You should address this to India Express and remind them to the Indian WOT (War on Toilet)

Yes, seriously. But what does this have to do with my posts? I'm white and therefor more credible than the Chinese – at least from the POV of an Indian.



We have enough Lebensraum for 80 m people with a greater GDP, higher HDI and living standard than 1.2 billion Indians. That's more than enough to content with. :)

With regard to caste system: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/indias-cas...eed-know-about-hindu-social-hierarchy-1546295



Have you built a toilet for the low caste slum dweller yet instead babbling nonsense in a forum?

I'd rather commit suicide than be an Indian, not to speak of a low caste Indian.

You seem more Chinese than the Chinese, mate.
 
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@Götterdämmerung

You can insult and vilify me all you like. But rape is rape wherever its done or by whom ever its done.

But colonial rape apologists like you have strong cognitive inertia against such and differentiate between good rapists and bad rapists just because the later was on the loosing side of the war.

For people like you Japanese rapists are bad but American soldiers who raped Japanese women are idols because they won WW2.

Sad to see such distinction, i hope sanity prevails.

I appreciate the fact atleast you are not a closeted one and proud of it.

Ask him how many German women were raped by allied forces especially Russians.

Figures stand at least 2 million women raped.
 
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Ministry of Culture
11-March, 2017 19:29 IST
Exhibition “Revolutionary Patriots (1905-1947)” Inaugurated on 127th Foundation Day of National Archives of India


On the occasion of 127th Foundation Day of National Archives of India (NAI), an exhibition entitled “Revolutionary Patriots (1905-1947)” was inaugurated by Shri N.K. Sinha, Secretary, Ministry of Culture in the presence of Shri Raghvendra Singh, Director General of NAI and many dignitaries here today. Addressing on the occasion, Shri N.K. Sinha praised the initiative of NAI and opined that the Digital Technology can make a lot of difference in collection and preservation of historical treasures in NAI. Shri Raghvendra Singh in his address said that the efforts are being made to make NAI more accessible not only for researchers but also for students and others.


Dr. T.C.A. Raghvan, Former High Commissioner of India to Pakistan delivered the Foundation Day Talk on “Foreign Policy and National Archives of India” on the occasion. He dwelt upon many useful aspects of the use of Archives in the Foreign Affairs. The Foundation Day Celebrations concluded with a cultural evening on patriotic poems in the presence of invited audience.


The exhibition on the revolutionary patriots of India is a contribution to a neglected episode in modern Indian history. The focus is on the tactics and political aim of our revolutionary patriots. Their spectacular acts of valour are on display. It is based on original documents and proscribed literature and has been organized with a two-fold objective: to sensitize the younger generation to the sacrifices made by the revolutionaries in their fight for independence from the imperial rule and to inculcate a sense of archival awareness among the public. It will remain open for public till 10 April 2017 from 10.30 a.m. to 5.30 p.m. during working days only.


The National Archives of India is an Attached Office under the Ministry of Culture and was established on 11 March 1891 at Calcutta as the Imperial Record Department. Professor G.W. Forrest was the first officer in charge of the department. Following the transfer of the capital from Calcutta to Delhi in 1911, the present building of the National Archives of India was constructed in 1926 which is designed by Edwin Lutyens. The transfer of all records from Calcutta to New Delhi was completed in 1937. The National Archives of India has one Regional Office at Bhopal and three Records Centers at Bhubaneswar, Jaipur and Puducherry.

The Secretary, Ministry of Culture, Shri N.K. Sinha inaugurating an exhibition entitled Revolutionary Patriots (1905-1947), at the celebrations of the “127th Foundation Day of National Archive of India (NAI)”, in New Delhi on March 11, 2017.
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The Secretary, Ministry of Culture, Shri N.K. Sinha at the inauguration of an exhibition entitled Revolutionary Patriots (1905-1947), during the celebrations of the “127th Foundation Day of National Archive of India (NAI)”, in New Delhi on March 11, 2017.
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The Secretary, Ministry of Culture, Shri N.K. Sinha visiting after inaugurating an exhibition entitled Revolutionary Patriots (1905-1947), at the celebrations of the “127th Foundation Day of National Archive of India (NAI)”, in New Delhi on March 11, 2017.
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The Secretary, Ministry of Culture, Shri N.K. Sinha visiting after inaugurating an exhibition entitled Revolutionary Patriots (1905-1947), at the celebrations of the “127th Foundation Day of National Archive of India (NAI)”, in New Delhi on March 11, 2017.
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The Secretary, Ministry of Culture, Shri N.K. Sinha addressing at the celebrations of the “127th Foundation Day of National Archive of India (NAI)”, in New Delhi on March 11, 2017.
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