An Arab-Persian Air War- A simulated look

[T-72M1]

Strike fighters

right, I had no idea about this one, I'm guessing this is 'strike fighters project-1' from 02 ?

doesn't look like its community has shown it as much love as the Falcon 4 guys

these 2 srs simmer channels have lots of good stuff featuring Falcon 4 BMS (which is 100% FREE for anyone who wants it, btw)

https://www.youtube.com/user/ralfidude/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/tanit/videos

sorry for the mini hijack, great thread.. carry on

@Hell hound will like this thread too

 

[SQ8]

DAY-3 Part 1

The third day I stuck with a Typhoon Unit. , Most of which was spent pushing around the southern section of Iran.
Despite repeated air-strikes on certain Iranian airfields, their MoB's were still operational despite FoBs taking a hit.
Interesting tactics were seen where J-10B's launched multiple low level attacks which made it difficult to intercept them other than flying down to visual range and killing them. The rest of the day was pretty blase except a large package that was launched to the west of Iran which ended up in something I've last seen in that arcade game called Ace Combat.

The Iranians had kept their assets behind the mountains and out of nowhere popped up to engage this whole strike package that was launched there. Certain BVR shots were taken that thinned that Iranian Ambush, but for the most part it was total chaos.

FYI, the two US aircraft you see in there were supposed to have their Arab Paint jobs but due to a bug the game picked up their US skins.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=252826261736373

Despite their losses, the Iranians are still sending Jets up into the fight..but their losses were getting pretty one sided until that last engagement.

right, I had no idea about this one, I'm guessing this is 'strike fighters project-1' from 02 ?

doesn't look like its community has shown it as much love as the Falcon 4 guys

these 2 srs simmer channels have lots of good stuff featuring Falcon 4 BMS (which is 100% FREE for anyone who wants it, btw)

https://www.youtube.com/user/ralfidude/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/tanit/videos

sorry for the mini hijack, great thread.. carry on

@Hell hound will like this thread too

You really have no idea for that community.
F-4 BMS is pretty good at realism but not much in the way of aircraft and terrain.
I have some 450 flyable aircraft with fairly good flight models, 10 differrent Terrains.. Until the DCS community comes up will I change over.

 

[T-72M1]

You really have no idea for that community.
F-4 BMS is pretty good at realism but not much in the way of aircraft and terrain.
I have some 450 flyable aircraft with fairly good flight models, 10 differrent Terrains.. Until the DCS community comes up will I change over.

I see, I'll look up more on it tomorrow

but DCS is already pretty good, one can grab a full feature DCS world with a SU-25 and a P-51 mustang and full working editor as a free dl off of steam for anyone who wants to try.

the separate (clickable cockpit) modules like the A-10C, KA-52 and Mig 21 are so deep in detail it'll take you a lifetime learning those if you want to true nerd out.

even their default theatre, the Russian caucusus, is irl hot these days so all the better

you might also want to check out http://store.steampowered.com/app/321410/ for a pure no fancy gfx strategy sim

and sorry for the offtopic again, carry on with this great thread.

 

[SQ8]

I see, I'll look up more on it tomorrow

but DCS is already pretty good, one can grab a full feature DCS world with a SU-25 and a P-51 mustang and full working editor as a free dl off of steam for anyone who wants to try.

the separate (clickable cockpit) modules like the A-10C, KA-52 and Mig 21 are so deep in detail it'll take you a lifetime learning those if you want to true nerd out.

even their default theatre, the Russian caucusus, is irl hot these days so all the better

you might also want to check out http://store.steampowered.com/app/321410/ for a pure no fancy gfx strategy sim

and sorry for the offtopic again, carry on with this great thread.

Already have them and waiting on DCS to bring in the Persian theatre.

 

[T-72M1]

Already have them and waiting on DCS to bring in the Persian theatre.

seen talk of a strait of Hormuz theatre for a while, that'll be awesome

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

@Oscar The GCC countries have the numerical and technological however what are the capabilities of their pilots.

The missions in this simulation are being flown by you and the tactics that you have designed. Try simulating from the Iranian side and then check the results.

Next time try doing a simulation based on Pakistan and Iran and fly from Iranian side both forces would be similar in weapons systems with approximately equal in number of assets.

After seeing the capabilities and determination shown by the IIAF it is highly likely the Real War might end up in disaster for some if not all GCC countries.

 

[Hell hound]

right, I had no idea about this one, I'm guessing this is 'strike fighters project-1' from 02 ?

doesn't look like its community has shown it as much love as the Falcon 4 guys

these 2 srs simmer channels have lots of good stuff featuring Falcon 4 BMS (which is 100% FREE for anyone who wants it, btw)

https://www.youtube.com/user/ralfidude/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/tanit/videos

sorry for the mini hijack, great thread.. carry on

@Hell hound will like this thread too

thanks for the tag mate
@Oscar i still can't get over the fact that aim 54 shot down E3 .pls shed little more light on how decade old missile and planes were able to pull this upset.how good this simulator can emulate the EW capabilities of jets.

 

[SQ8]

thanks for the tag mate
@Oscar i still can't get over the fact that aim 54 shot down E3 .pls shed little more light on how decade old missile and planes were able to pull this upset.how good this simulator can emulate the EW capabilities of jets.

http://theiranproject.com/blog/2013/10/01/iran-to-equip-f-14-fighters-with-home-made-missiles/

It does EW well, but when you have 3 missiles launched at you from two different fighters.. eventually you will fall.

 

[Arsalan]

Here are some interesting links...

http://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/persian-cats-9242012/?no-ist

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/161361/iran-says-it’s-modifying-f_14-fighters-for-new-missions.html

https://theaviationist.com/2015/03/01/iriaf-f-14s-overhauled/

http://www.iiaf.net/aircraft/jetfighters/F14/f14.html

These are blogs but still they seem to sugest the same.
https://warisboring.com/grounding-the-ayatollah-s-tomcats-d02551f1104e#.rqzy3nm8j
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/01/30/islamic-republic-f14-feature/
http://theboresight.blogspot.com/2009/07/iran-satellites-and-tomcats.html



The capability of F-14's can be seen from these posts of @Oscar

DAY-1
Most of the early day or rather night was spent by my flying a F-15SA on fighter sweep, but I chose to focus on the types of assets launched. The most interesting bit was the game engine letting the Iranian side set up a fighter sweep prior to us launching to after the HVAA assets. They actually launched some 8 F-14s to go after the Saudi E-3 which was well inside Iraqi airspace and defended by EF-Typhoons. I had to cut that engagement due to it looking awkward with me switching between all the aircraft, but the F-14 sweep overwhelmed the Typhoons with AIM-54 and Sedjeel(HAWK adapted for A2A) shots. They took 2 losses but took out the 2 typhoons that were providing HVAA cover. The E-3 fell to the AIM-54 eventually.

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/an-arab-persian-air-war-a-simulated-look.428109/#ixzz47K0McHWa

What was important was that the Iranians were fighting back tooth and nail as expected and despite an older fleet as such were taking a toll on GCC forces. The most effective asset still remained the Iranian F-14 which kept using its sniping technique to take out many an unsuspecting aircraft. The GCC forced however at large managed to inflict quite a few losses on the Iranians in the BVR arena with many Iranian Su-30's falling to Meteors and AIM-120s despite their volleys of R-77s. However, the Arabs found themselves matched in WVR and in the case of the Mig-29/R-73 outplayed a Rafale strike flight and took 4 of them down. Although the rafale's engaged a lot of targets and probably killed more.

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/an-arab-persian-air-war-a-simulated-look.428109/page-2#ixzz47K1NGBn0

IMO
IIAF would be interested in getting the Rafales and Su-30MKI's rather then going for the J-10's.

it is a simulation brother and its a bit too early in that simmulation too.

Surely the F14 have some teeth but the point was comparing a hand full of F14 against a couple of hundred strong fleet of F16 BLK60, F15, F18, Rafale and Typhoons. It wont be difficult to understand. What Iran needs to do now and will most likely do is to upgrade its fleet with Russian and Chinese planes in the very near future.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

it is a simulation brother and its a bit too early in that simmulation too.

Surely the F14 have some teeth but the point was comparing a hand full of F14 against a couple of hundred strong fleet of F16 BLK60, F15, F18, Rafale and Typhoons. It wont be difficult to understand. What Iran needs to do now and will most likely do is to upgrade its fleet with Russian and Chinese planes in the very near future.

In the early days these handful have been giving results that are impressive.

 

[Arsalan]

In the early days these handful have been giving results that are impressive.

They are,, but for how long. It is simple maths and a no brainier. A 70s plane, no matter how extensively upgraded by a nation under sanctions, how long it will last against a force about 10 times in numbers and made up of actual 4.5 generation platforms, planes that were designed and built that way. It is quite simple, need no simulation. Anyone with little knowledge about modern air warfare will have no difficulty predicting the outcome!

 

[Gufi]

@Oscar just when it was getting interesting you stopped posting, surely there is more to the simulation

 

[SQ8]

@Oscar just when it was getting interesting you stopped posting, surely there is more to the simulation

Sorry janab.. got locked out of my youtube account because I forgot my password and then never followed it up

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Sorry janab.. got locked out of my youtube account because I forgot my password and then never followed it up

Brilliant