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A nuclear power's act of proliferation
Accounts by controversial scientist assert China gave Pakistan enough enriched uranium in '82 to make 2 bombs


By R. Jeffrey Smith and Joby Warrick
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, November 13, 2009

In 1982, a Pakistani military C-130 left the western Chinese city of Urumqi with a highly unusual cargo: enough weapons-grade uranium for two atomic bombs, according to accounts written by the father of Pakistan's nuclear weapons program, Abdul Qadeer Khan, and provided to The Washington Post.

The uranium transfer in five stainless-steel boxes was part of a broad-ranging, secret nuclear deal approved years earlier by Mao Zedong and Prime Minister Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto that culminated in an exceptional, deliberate act of proliferation by a nuclear power, according to the accounts by Khan, who is under house arrest in Pakistan.

U.S. officials say they have known about the transfer for decades and once privately confronted the Chinese -- who denied it -- but have never raised the issue in public or sought to impose direct sanctions on China for it. President Obama, who said in April that "the world must stand together to prevent the spread of these weapons," plans to discuss nuclear proliferation issues while visiting Beijing on Tuesday.

According to Khan, the uranium cargo came with a blueprint for a simple weapon that China had already tested, supplying a virtual do-it-yourself kit that significantly speeded Pakistan's bomb effort. The transfer also started a chain of proliferation: U.S. officials worry that Khan later shared related Chinese design information with Iran; in 2003, Libya confirmed obtaining it from Khan's clandestine network.

China's refusal to acknowledge the transfer and the unwillingness of the United States to confront the Chinese publicly demonstrate how difficult it is to counter nuclear proliferation. Although U.S. officials say China is now much more attuned to proliferation dangers, it has demonstrated less enthusiasm than the United States for imposing sanctions on Iran over its nuclear efforts, a position Obama wants to discuss.


Although Chinese officials have for a quarter-century denied helping any nation attain a nuclear capability, current and former U.S. officials say Khan's accounts confirm the U.S. intelligence community's long-held conclusion that China provided such assistance.

"Upon my personal request, the Chinese Minister . . . had gifted us 50 kg [kilograms] of weapon-grade enriched uranium, enough for two weapons," Khan wrote in a previously undisclosed 11-page narrative of the Pakistani bomb program that he prepared after his January 2004 detention for unauthorized nuclear commerce.

"The Chinese gave us drawings of the nuclear weapon, gave us kg50 enriched uranium," he said in a separate account sent to his wife several months earlier.

China's Foreign Ministry last week declined to address Khan's specific assertions, but it said that as a member of the global Non-Proliferation Treaty since 1992, "China strictly adheres to the international duty of prevention of proliferation it shoulders and strongly opposes . . . proliferation of nuclear weapons in any forms."

Asked why the U.S. government has never publicly confronted China over the uranium transfer, State Department spokesman Philip J. Crowley said, "The United States has worked diligently and made progress with China over the past 25 years. As to what was or wasn't done during the Reagan administration, I can't say."

Khan's exploits have been described in multiple books and public reports since British and U.S. intelligence services unmasked the deeds in 2003. But his own narratives -- not yet seen by U.S. officials -- provide fresh details about China's aid to Pakistan and its reciprocal export to China of sensitive uranium-enrichment technology.

A spokesman for the Pakistani Embassy in Washington declined to comment for this article. Pakistan has never allowed the U.S. government to question Khan or other top Pakistani officials directly, prompting Congress to demand in legislation approved in September that future aid be withheld until Obama certifies that Pakistan has provided "relevant information from or direct access to Pakistani nationals" involved in past nuclear commerce.

The Post obtained Khan's detailed accounts from Simon Henderson, a former journalist at the Financial Times who is now a senior fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy and who has maintained correspondence with Khan. In a first-person account about his contacts with Khan in the Sept. 20 edition of the London Sunday Times, Henderson disclosed several excerpts from one of the documents.

Henderson said he agreed to The Post's request for a copy of that letter and other documents and narratives written by Khan because he believes an accurate understanding of Pakistan's nuclear history is relevant for U.S. policymaking. The Post independently confirmed the authenticity of the material; it also corroborated much of the content through interviews in Pakistan and other countries.

Although Khan disputes various assertions by book authors, the narratives are particularly at odds with Pakistan's official statements that he exported nuclear secrets as a rogue agent and implicated only former government officials who are no longer living. Instead, he repeatedly states that top politicians and military officers were immersed in the country's foreign nuclear dealings.

Khan has complained to friends that his movements and contacts are being unjustly controlled by the government, whose bidding he did -- providing a potential motive for his disclosures.

Overall, the narratives portray his deeds as a form of sustained, high-tech international horse-trading, in which Khan and a series of top generals successfully leveraged his access to Europe's best centrifuge technology in the 1980s to obtain financial assistance or technical advice from foreign governments that wanted to advance their own efforts.

"The speed of our work and our achievements surprised our worst enemies and adversaries and the West stood helplessly by to see a Third World nation, unable even to produce bicycle chains or sewing needles, mastering the most advanced nuclear technology in the shortest possible span of time," Khan boasts in the 11-page narrative he wrote for Pakistani intelligence officials about his dealings with foreigners while head of a key nuclear research laboratory.


Exchanges with Beijing


According to one of the documents, a five-page summary by Khan of his government's dealmaking with China, the terms of the nuclear exchange were set in a mid-1976 conversation between Mao and Bhutto. Two years earlier, neighboring India had tested its first nuclear bomb, provoking Khan -- a metallurgist working at a Dutch centrifuge manufacturer -- to offer his services to Bhutto.

Khan said he and two other Pakistani officials -- including then-Foreign Secretary Agha Shahi, since deceased -- worked out the details when they traveled to Beijing later that year for Mao's funeral. Over several days, Khan said, he briefed three top Chinese nuclear weapons officials -- Liu Wei, Li Jue and Jiang Shengjie -- on how the European-designed centrifuges could swiftly aid China's lagging uranium-enrichment program. China's Foreign Ministry did not respond to questions about the officials' roles.

"Chinese experts started coming regularly to learn the whole technology" from Pakistan, Khan states, staying in a guesthouse built for them at his centrifuge research center. Pakistani experts were dispatched to Hanzhong in central China, where they helped "put up a centrifuge plant," Khan said in an account he gave to his wife after coming under government pressure. "We sent 135 C-130 plane loads of machines, inverters, valves, flow meters, pressure gauges," he wrote. "Our teams stayed there for weeks to help and their teams stayed here for weeks at a time."

In return, China sent Pakistan 15 tons of uranium hexafluoride (UF6), a feedstock for Pakistan's centrifuges that Khan's colleagues were having difficulty producing on their own. Khan said the gas enabled the laboratory to begin producing bomb-grade uranium in 1982. Chinese scientists helped the Pakistanis solve other nuclear weapons challenges, but as their competence rose, so did the fear of top Pakistani officials that Israel or India might preemptively strike key nuclear sites.

Mohammed Zia ul-Haq, the nation's military ruler, "was worried," Khan said, and so he and a Pakistani general who helped oversee the nation's nuclear laboratories were dispatched to Beijing with a request in mid-1982 to borrow enough bomb-grade uranium for a few weapons.

After winning Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping's approval, Khan, the general and two others flew aboard a Pakistani C-130 to Urumqi. Khan says they enjoyed barbecued lamb while waiting for the Chinese military to pack the small uranium bricks into lead-lined boxes, 10 single-kilogram ingots to a box, for the flight to Islamabad, Pakistan's capital.

According to Khan's account, however, Pakistan's nuclear scientists kept the Chinese material in storage until 1985, by which time the Pakistanis had made a few bombs with their own uranium. Khan said he got Zia's approval to ask the Chinese whether they wanted their high-enriched uranium back. After a few days, they responded "that the HEU loaned earlier was now to be considered as a gift . . . in gratitude" for Pakistani help, Khan said.

He said the laboratory promptly fabricated hemispheres for two weapons and added them to Pakistan's arsenal. Khan's view was that none of this violated the 1968 Non-Proliferation Treaty, because neither nation had signed it at the time and neither had sought to use its capability "against any country in particular." He also wrote that subsequent international protests reeked of hypocrisy because of foreign assistance to nuclear weapons programs in Britain, Israel and South Africa.

U.S. unaware of progress


The United States was suspicious of Pakistani-Chinese collaboration through this period. Officials knew that China treasured its relationship with Pakistan because both worried about India; they also knew that China viewed Western nuclear policies as discriminatory and that some Chinese politicians had favored the spread of nuclear arms as a path to stability.

But U.S. officials were ignorant about key elements of the cooperation as it unfolded, according to current and former officials and classified documents.

China is "not in favor of a Pakistani nuclear explosive program, and I don't think they are doing anything to help it," a top State Department official reported in a secret briefing in 1979, three years after the Bhutto-Mao deal was struck. A secret State Department report in 1983 said Washington was aware that Pakistan had requested China's help, but "we do not know what the present status of the cooperation is," according to a declassified copy.


Meanwhile, Chinese Premier Zhao Ziyang promised at a White House dinner in January 1984: "We do not engage in nuclear proliferation ourselves, nor do we help other countries develop nuclear weapons." A nearly identical statement was made by China in a major summary of its nonproliferation policies in 2003 and on many occasions in between.

Fred McGoldrick, a senior State Department nonproliferation official in the Reagan and Clinton administrations, recalls that the United States learned in the 1980s about the Chinese bomb-design and uranium transfers. "We did confront them, and they denied it," he said. Since then, the connection has been confirmed by particles on nuclear-related materials from Pakistan, many of which have characteristic Chinese bomb program "signatures," other officials say.

Hans M. Kristensen, director of the Nuclear Information Project at the Federation of American Scientists, said that except for the instance described by Khan, "we are not aware of cases where a nuclear weapon state has transferred HEU to a non-nuclear country for military use." McGoldrick also said he is aware of "nothing like it" in the history of nuclear weapons proliferation. But he said nothing has ever been said publicly because "this is diplomacy; you don't do that sort of thing . . . if you want them to change their behavior."

Warrick reported from Islamabad. Staff researcher Julie Tate in Washington and Beijing bureau assistant Wang Juan contributed to this report.

washingtonpost.com
 
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China joined NPT in 1992 and Proliferation happened in 1982. So by rule, China hasn't breached NPT. Moreover, U.S. has been blaming too much on other countries about Nuclear Proliferation while U.S. itself has been an ally with Israel arming Israel with Nuclear Technology, eh, not?
 
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I think the article just raises doubts on the intellectual capabilities of Pak scientists.. Anyone can make a bomb if he's getting tutorials :agree:

The real metal of nations capabilities is proved when u make something from ground up, of course one needs help at times even Indians did get help of some sort from Russians but they were not spoon fed!!
 
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I think the article just raises doubts on the intellectual capabilities of Pak scientists.. Anyone can make a bomb if he's getting tutorials :agree:

The real metal of nations capabilities is proved when u make something from ground up, of course one needs help at times even Indians did get help of some sort from Russians but they were not spoon fed!!

Where does this article imply that Pakistani scientists were spoonfed?

And how did you deduce your conclusion that Russians helping India for nuclear technology wasn't an act of spoonfeeding, but simply an act of receiving minor help from Russian?? It's just about the way you use words, otherwise the matter is evident. I can say Russian 'abet' India in getting Nuclear Technology. How do you take my words in this case?

You're playing a word twisting game here I guess -- scribble :what:
 
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I think the article just raises doubts on the intellectual capabilities of Pak scientists.. Anyone can make a bomb if he's getting tutorials :agree:

making MKI's with technical assistance from russia makes the indian scientists look stupid as well and raises doubts on their intellectual capabilities :rolleyes:
reinventing the wheel is plain stupidity :rolleyes:
get what you can; you can always learn later :agree:
 
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"the uranium cargo came with a blueprint for a simple weapon that China had already tested, supplying a virtual do-it-yourself kit that significantly speeded Pakistan's bomb effort" => Spoon Feeding :)

""Chinese experts started coming regularly to learn the whole technology" from Pakistan, Khan states, staying in a guesthouse built for them at his centrifuge research center. Pakistani experts were dispatched to Hanzhong in central China, where they helped "put up a centrifuge plant,"" => Spoon Feeding.

And ooh the technology Dr. Khan is talking about was stolen by him from west before he moved to Pakistan.

---------- Post added at 05:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:03 PM ----------

Mod U gonna say something here?

I'm new not sure if I reply back in the same tone as his, would I be banned ??

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Well when we pay money for a plane we don't call it a "Joint Fighter" do we?
 
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"reinventing the wheel is plain stupidity
get what you can; you can always learn later "

Valid point and accepted that this is the way the world works now.

"making MKI's with technical assistance from russia makes the indian scientists look stupid as well and raises doubts on their intellectual capabilities" => We call it transfer of technology and accept it, high time you guys smell the coffee and accept the reality that you got the bomb from China.. thts all I want to say in this regard.

You guys do have the bomb (not that I'm pleased about it) and considering that you almost used it during Kargil conflict makes me nervous.. nonetheless I am for a peaceful South Asia on the lines of EU if we guys want the world to stop the arm-twisting every now and then. We need to put a united front so that people stop bullying our countries. I hope this dream would come true in our lifetime.
 
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"the uranium cargo came with a blueprint for a simple weapon that China had already tested, supplying a virtual do-it-yourself kit that significantly speeded Pakistan's bomb effort" => Spoon Feeding :)

""Chinese experts started coming regularly to learn the whole technology" from Pakistan, Khan states, staying in a guesthouse built for them at his centrifuge research center. Pakistani experts were dispatched to Hanzhong in central China, where they helped "put up a centrifuge plant,"" => Spoon Feeding.

My dear 'hindesi', just by the word "to-do-yourself kit", you've persuaded yourself that it was an act of spoonfeeding, eh?

Do you know how many steps are there to make an atom bomb. Let me tell you some of it if you don't know.

You need the fissionable material first, Plutonium239 isotope. Uranium235, would be needed to in some cases. You'd need to refine it using a gas centrifuge. The uranium hexa-fluoride gas is piped in a cylinder, which is then spun at high speed. To be used as the fissile core of a nuclear weapon, the uranium has to be enriched to more than 90 per cent and be produced in large quantities.

The fissionable material, you could get it from Russia or China, or from Iran, since they're trying so hard to produce it. This article, most certainly is talking about the fissionable material. North Korea is not ready yet, and unfortunately, Iraqi dealers retired from the business.

^^ That's just one step.

Now you'd need TNT (trinitrotoluene) to start a nuclear chain reaction. Then you'd need a detonator. And to fabricate a detonator for the device, get a radio controlled (RC) servo mechanism -- also found in RC model planes & cars.

Now you'd need a pusher. A pusher shell made out of low density metal such as aluminium, beryllium, or an alloy of the two metals. To maximize efficiency of energy transfer in between these metals, the density difference between layers should be minimized. Tough thing.


Then you'll need to get the fissile material in order to start the chain reaction. It also depends upon the size, shape and purity of the material. Not too easy to get or produce. Your weapons-grade uranium will have to be in subcritical configuration. You must arrange the uranium into two hemispherical shapes, separated by a few centimetres. Since it's highly radioactive, it can't be produced in every laboratory. Any country owning such facility in their labs could help you out in this process. Most certainly, India too fulfilled this step with the help of Russia just like Pakistan did with the help of China, in any case.

There's a huge huge literature regarding the processes involved in making nukes. I've highlighted the ones that you consider is spoonfed thing. Review your words. Making nukes isn't easy, neither countries like India, Iran, North Korea or anyone can obtain it without any assistance of countries like China, Russia, U.S. Subsequently, you may call it anything, abetting, spoonfeeding .. whatever -- your discretion and the level of partiality and bias inside you.
 
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i don't see in this case any thing bad.its simply best friend ship example for nations.
 
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I think the article just raises doubts on the intellectual capabilities of Pak scientists.. Anyone can make a bomb if he's getting tutorials :agree:

The real metal of nations capabilities is proved when u make something from ground up, of course one needs help at times even Indians did get help of some sort from Russians but they were not spoon fed!!

I am sure as little privy to this kinda stuff as most everyone around here. But I think in all fairness neither you, nor the world should underestimate the engineering and scientific acumen of South and East Asians - when and if they are given a conducive environment for research and discovery.

South Asia includes both Pakistan and India.

Rumour has it that Pak-PRC flow in defence and tech have always been a two-way street. Nuclear tech has never been all about boom-boom and mushroom clouds. Pakistani scientists knew something valuable in civilian nuclear technology, including chemistry ... Dr. Khan himself was an expert in many things before he ... (not my place to comment).

Anyways, Russia built a very small reactor for the PRC in the 50's (albeit not even half-way they pulled out - including withdrawing the "blueprints" apparently, but nevertheless, as "rumour" would have it - helpful "technicians" left crucial hints here and there).

In the case of India, where do you think India got all of its Plutonium from in the 70s? If Dr. Khan and these "journalists" from a neo-con mouthpiece are to be taken at face value, then Pakistan at least "borrowed" a stash honourably.

Whereas India stole its plutonium back then entirely from a Canadian reactor donated for scientific/medical research.

Now, far be it from me to "blame" India for India had to look after its legitimate security needs. But the land of holy cows are surely not holier than thou - or anyone else in the neighbourhood.

:cheers:
 
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fair enough.. but then we're not the ones claiming and cheat thumping that we did it on our own.. we take credit for what we do on our own.. unlike my neighbour to the west.. who'll make fun of LCA(there is another thread which states what we have and have not done technologically) and at the sametime thump his chest when it comes to JF-17(just giving money doesn't replace technological contribution!) NOW THATS HYPOCRISY aint it? ... Yes we did it and we're not refuting it either.. but then when it comes to my neighbours to the west they seem to take credit even in sun rising from east at times (figuratively).. I don't get them to be frank :)
 
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for that matter it's rumored that US made the A-bomb with the help of german scientists it managed to grab before russians at the end of WW2.. So the real credit should in fact go to Germany if U believe the "rumors" to be true.
 
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In the case of India, where do you think India got all of its Plutonium from in the 70s?

The natural Uranium that went into the CIRUS reactor was 100% Indian. The ore was extracted from Indian mines by Indian workers – processed by Indian scientists and engineers to extract natural Uranium from it and fed into the reactor for electricity generation! The spent fuel that comes out from reactors is not suitable for making bombs. It needs to re-processed and Plutonium needs to be extracted from it. This too was done by Indian scientists and engineers using indigenous reprocessing technologies!

Whereas India stole its plutonium back then entirely from a Canadian reactor donated for scientific/medical research.

India did no such thing! The fuel that went in was ours so naturally whatever came out too belonged to us.
 
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for that matter it's rumored that US made the A-bomb with the help of german scientists it managed to grab before russians at the end of WW2.. So the real credit should in fact go to Germany if U believe the "rumors" to be true.

Why do we think Einstein and Oppenheimer were famous?

To a significant extent, the real "credit" DOES go to German (including exiled German Jewish) scientists who pioneered the theories. There is no doubt about that.

The rest were just engineering - of course, I don't mean to belittle just engineering ...
 
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for that matter it's rumored that US made the A-bomb with the help of german scientists it managed to grab before russians at the end of WW2.. So the real credit should in fact go to Germany if U believe the "rumors" to be true.

Wow, you sure don't know your WWII history!! The US team that developed the atom bomb was mainly homegrown American but included several Jewish European immigrants who had come to the USA to escape persecution in Germany, many years before the US entry into WWII. The Allies terminally damaged the German atom bomb program by covert sabotage attacks on German research facilities during the war. You are confusing the role of German ROCKET scientists with the atom bomb program. It is true that the US did "grab" several German rocket scientists (especially Werner von Braun) before the Soviets could. But the atom bomb, and later the hydrogen bomb, developments were done wholly by USA citizen scientists. All subsequent atom bomb efforts "borrowed" or "stole" from the original USA Manhattan project, including the first Soviet bomb which was assisted by Soviet espionage penetration of the USA's Manhattan Project.
 
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