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American Gun Culture Tragedy - Murdered over a Snow Shoveling Argument!

US need to confiscate every gun. Civilian population should not have access to guns. The 2nd amendment in the US constitution should be abolished.
 
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US need to confiscate every gun. Civilian population should not have access to guns. The 2nd amendment in the US constitution should be abolished.
Hell no. The day that happens, America will no longer be American.
 
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What gun culture? These neighbours were of very negative behaviour towards each other the video which I have seen mostly consists and repeated of word 'fck you' and at the end they all three met their logical end, 2 murdered and 1 suicide. Hope that neighbourhood will now see peace in the area. Basically this is US culture which they were practicing since long against native people. Same they are practising in world politics.
 
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1) First off this didn’t happen due to “gun culture”... People always make mindless comments before even reading the entire article or knowing the full story... I mean seriously who here actually reads the whole article and then does a double or triple check? I noticed most users don’t and give mindless opinions.

2) These neighbours had been having a feud for years, and this incident here was the boiling point for Spaide (the gunner) as they (the Goys) were literally shovelling snow across the street into his driveway. Basically a minute or so before the video (as I have seen the actual uncut video), the Goys were berating Spaide, the husband even called him “a pussy” and put his fists up in the air, and the wife even said “I will make your life a living hell”... So Spaide having run out of patience after all the years went and gunned them both down, and even after having fun down the woman she was still berating him, and when he put the last bullet in her he said “you should have kept your fucking mouth shut”, thereafter when police arrived he committed suicide. Everyone has a boiling point and that was his, even if he didn’t have a gun it would have been a knife or a machete, he was at that point. Not saying what he did was justified or warranted, he should have moved or even settled it in court, but that’s what it came down to.

3) People are saying this because of guns... uh no this is because of people, guns keep would be dictators in check, a free society can only be kept free through guns, should a dictatorship happen tomorrow you would sheep’s waiting to be slaughtered. It was because of guns that we Afghans destroyed the Soviet invasion/occupation otherwise today our women would be whoring to every Russian that would have come to Kabul. It is because of guns that we are kicking out the American occupation, and it is because that we will not allow ourselves to be like Xinjian China, sheeps waiting to be slaughtered. Those of you saying “we should ban guns”, should not live in a free country and go live in dictatorship, I am sure in 1930s Mussolini and Hitler would have loved to have citizens such as you.

And last but not least, long live USA for being a free country, and long live their second amendment and their right to keep themselves free and prevent themselves from becoming human cattle like China. We Afghans have a lot to learn from them and hope to re-invite them once they leave, but next time not as invaders but as business partners.

Fair enough, How many neighbours in Canada or Europe kill each other with guns for shovelling snow on their driveway or in front of their home?
 
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Warning - this is disturbing to watch! Viewer caution advised!

You have to select "watch on YouTube"





Apparently the shooter was ex-us navy:


The son of the slain couple has autism......... :disagree:
 
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cant watch the video since I got to show my passport to verify my age. Anyhow really sad how a stupid and dumb situation escalated so badly.
 
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So whats typical black American behavior?

Black or non-white Americans aren't blessed with the same privileges that white Americans have. White americans can commit wanton slaughter with no punishment or prosecution.

You don't see people in other western countries acting like this. Not in Canada neither in EU member states.

This kind of trivial attitude towards taking another's life using handguns is very specific to white americans. If you won't recognize the problem it will never be solved.
 
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First, I would not call this "American gun culture" but "gun culture". Where ever you get gun culture and this includes Pakistan the probability of fracas leading to death increases. Simply because a gun is one trigger away from death.

If this event had happened in my home town [UK] most likey fists would have flown and then the two guys would have got puffed, then walked away. Or they might have brought sticks and beaten each other. Worst case a knife might have been used. But even at the upper end of escalation ladder the outcomes would not be as deadly. Each of these weapons has a escalation slope to death.

  • punch/kicking
  • sticks/bats
  • knives
  • pistols
  • rifles
  • grenades
  • RPG launcher
Now non of these by themselves kill. It is the mind behind each that kills. But don't no person tell me arming every citizen with pistols will lead to higher deaths. Arming all citizens with RPGs will lead to even more deaths.

Guns are tools. Since you are not allowed to have guns in the UK, will you deny there is a knife culture present? Don’t bs me either because my khala husband is a big time cop in Glasgow.
 
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US need to confiscate every gun. Civilian population should not have access to guns. The 2nd amendment in the US constitution should be abolished.

This would be unwise. Unfortunately the government has outsourced part of the public safety function of police to its residents. It also has many bigots and thugs who would use their illegal weapons against the law abiding. The public has to defend itself when the police are unable to do so.
 
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It is because of guns that we are kicking out the American occupation, and it is because that we will not allow ourselves to be like Xinjian China, sheeps waiting to be slaughtered. Those of you saying “we should ban guns”, should not live in a free country and go live in dictatorship, I am sure in 1930s Mussolini and Hitler would have loved to have citizens such as you.
You may not know much about Chinese history.
I do not blame you but China is the ONLY civilization IN THE WORLD that has peasant rebellions. That includes Mao who is a son of a peasant.

Daze rebellion that topple the Qin dynasty.
 

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Black or non-white Americans aren't blessed with the same privileges that white Americans have. White americans can commit wanton slaughter with no punishment or prosecution.

You don't see people in other western countries acting like this. Not in Canada neither in EU member states.

This kind of trivial attitude towards taking another's life using handguns is very specific to white americans. If you won't recognize the problem it will never be solved.
Sorry but thats misconception right there. You always see whites get arrested with committing slaughter or murder.
 
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You always see whites get arrested with committing slaughter or murder.


you are essentially defending neo nazis and genocidal creeps. for people like those - i don't think an arrest followed by a quick bail is justice. justice would be more than that.

anyways whites 'get arrested' for such severe crimes. non-whites simply get shot with no regret or afterthought from the authorities.

you are one narrow minded white person- but if we were to sum up white america that's one way to do it i guess
 
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1) First off this didn’t happen due to “gun culture”... People always make mindless comments before even reading the entire article or knowing the full story... I mean seriously who here actually reads the whole article and then does a double or triple check? I noticed most users don’t and give mindless opinions.

2) These neighbours had been having a feud for years, and this incident here was the boiling point for Spaide (the gunner) as they (the Goys) were literally shovelling snow across the street into his driveway. Basically a minute or so before the video (as I have seen the actual uncut video), the Goys were berating Spaide, the husband even called him “a pussy” and put his fists up in the air, and the wife even said “I will make your life a living hell”... So Spaide having run out of patience after all the years went and gunned them both down, and even after having fun down the woman she was still berating him, and when he put the last bullet in her he said “you should have kept your fucking mouth shut”, thereafter when police arrived he committed suicide. Everyone has a boiling point and that was his, even if he didn’t have a gun it would have been a knife or a machete, he was at that point. Not saying what he did was justified or warranted, he should have moved or even settled it in court, but that’s what it came down to.

3) People are saying this because of guns... uh no this is because of people, guns keep would be dictators in check, a free society can only be kept free through guns, should a dictatorship happen tomorrow you would sheep’s waiting to be slaughtered. It was because of guns that we Afghans destroyed the Soviet invasion/occupation otherwise today our women would be whoring to every Russian that would have come to Kabul. It is because of guns that we are kicking out the American occupation, and it is because that we will not allow ourselves to be like Xinjian China, sheeps waiting to be slaughtered. Those of you saying “we should ban guns”, should not live in a free country and go live in dictatorship, I am sure in 1930s Mussolini and Hitler would have loved to have citizens such as you.

And last but not least, long live USA for being a free country, and long live their second amendment and their right to keep themselves free and prevent themselves from becoming human cattle like China. We Afghans have a lot to learn from them and hope to re-invite them once they leave, but next time not as invaders but as business partners.

This is exactly what I was thinking. Pakistani gun culture probably saved us during the battle of Lahore. Pussy liberals like to criticize American/Pakistani/Afghani gun culture because they would rather not have to be responsible for their own safety and let the government who thinks of them only as tax cows protect them.
 
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