American attack aftermath: Pakistan declares attack a 'plot'

[Jango]

US personnel should be arrested and interrogated and investigated.

This attack was coordinated with the US personnel in Pakistan. It was a mission of some sorts like the Osama raid which got intercepted.

If they can't do this, then we have a shame military and civilian leadership that itself should be given 15 days to leave Pakistan.

Well then, get ready to be disappointed.

US personnel, as already said by a retired Lt gen, most probably had a hand in giving the exact location , and setting up this whole op.

I refuse to accept this as an accident.

 

[rai_kamal]

Why 15 days? 15 days is a lifetime in Pakistani politics. If I was in charge, pakar ke nikaalta. In 15 days the situation would turn.

"Aacha josh hai bhai"
Be careful before taking any action against them as it may cost 2 billion $ , economic sanctions and many more things.
Ofcourse,the attack was on independence of pakistan and its sovereignity,but investigation is required from the sides before any action...

 

[Awesome]

"Aacha josh hai bhai"
Be careful before taking any action against them as it may cost 2 billion $ , economic sanctions and many more things.
Ofcourse,the attack was on independence of pakistan and its sovereignity,but investigation is required from the sides before any action...

I want to see an end to all US aid and the fact is there is hardly anything coming other than media statements, anyway.

 

[W.11]

You can't blame them for it!

Civilians is a matter of the Govt. Your beloved PPP could not keep it's promises, and provide ample support to the affected.

The army does to it's soldiers.

Everybody feels sorry for everyone injured or killed in every incident like this, but that post was just dis respectful to the family of the Shaheed and the Shaheed himself.

and who bloody started this war, civilian PPP government???

protecting the citizens is the duty of the fauj not protecting its sipahis, why are you on the border anyway if you cant protect the civilians, also government has little authority when it comes to WOT, americans now deal with army more than civilian government, if some drone attack agreement is signed, military is present and knows it..

fauj is the one with weapons and stuff not civilian govt, and dont behave like our fauj is in control anyway

 

[Jango]

"Aacha josh hai bhai"
Be careful before taking any action against them as it may cost 2 billion $ , economic sanctions and many more things.
Ofcourse,the attack was on independence of pakistan and its sovereignity,but investigation is required from the sides before any action...

70 Billion lost since this WoT began, only 10 Billion $ received, you do the math and the logic.

 

[Safriz]

Why though? What were they trying to achieve? It doesn't make sense.

An army who is spoiled and drunken with power does need reason to kill some lowlifes...They know they will get away with it,why bother find reason?

 

[President Camacho]

This incident could very much give the NATO/US a strong justification to extend the deadline to withdraw from Afghanistan.

 

[Jango]

and who bloody started this war, civilian PPP government???

protecting the citizens is the duty of the fauj not protecting its sipahis, why are you on the border anyway if you cant protect the civilians, also government has little authority when it comes to WOT, americans now deal with army more than civilian government, if some drone attack agreement is signed, military is present and knows it..

fauj is the one with weapons and stuff not civilian govt, and dont behave like our fauj is in control anyway

Yeah, the army is not in control, that is why the civilian government should be compensating the civilians, the Army compensates it's soldiers. Simple as that. or is it really difficult to comprehend?

Army has made it's mistakes as well, but it is because of them , not solely, but in part, that you are sitting in you comfy chair in Karachi and ridiculing.

Your name suggests you are a ignorant and arrogant young 15 year old. karachiPunk.

 

[Hulk]

How Many Times America & Nato Attacked Pakistan? - YouTube

 

[888jamie888]

so does it make sense to attack on pakistan post and kill not 1, not 2, not 3 but 28 soldiers

you guys have already killed our 2 soldiers before, now how could you repeat the mistake if it was one??

No, as I just said it does not make sense.
Mistakes can happen more than once. British soldiers have killed by US forces a number of times. It just doesnt make sense for the NATO to attack Pakistan, what is the benefit?

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An army who is spoiled and drunken with power does need reason to kill some lowlifes...They know they will get away with it,why bother find reason?

That doesnt make sense.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

What Afghans claim is totally different. They claim that they came under fire first. Also the fact that PA is claiming that there were support troops sent in also conveys that no-one was sleeping. Regarding surprise that PAF was conspicous in absentia, calling in air support would have meant that Pakistan public could have been condoling many more of their men today. The objective was always to keep the situation localized and send a message to ISAF. The ISAF though clearly had different thoughts about how the dialogue should actually work.

The Afghans and NATO are idiots then for peddling this line - the WSJ article I posted earlier that provided some detailed quotes regarding the allegations of fire from the Pakistani post makes pretty clear that the Afghan troops were 'assuming' that the fire they were receiving was from the two posts. You cannot rationally argue that in complete darkness, in the middle of a military operation in mountainous terrain, that the troops allegedly under fire were able to very specifically pinpoint the location of the fire they were receiving as the two Pakistani border posts - certainly not from '2.5KM away' (if the location of the border post is correct).

Secondly, since Pakistan has provided the location of all its posts to ISAF and the ANA, one would have at the least expected ISAF to have checked whether or not they would be targeting a Pakistani position, and if so, first communicating with Pakistani authorities to address the issue of any alleged firing from the post.

There simple is no justification for NATO's actions here - they were either 'completely incompetent or completely complicit'.

 

[Safriz]

No, as I just said it does not make sense.
Mistakes can happen more than once. British soldiers have killed by US forces a number of times. It just doesnt make sense for the NATO to attack Pakistan, what is the benefit?

yes it has happened,brits have been killed by americans "by mistake"...there are documentaries on various friendly fire incidents all over the Internet but strangely enough its always Americans killing others by mistake and never the other way round....
Why give weapons to such incompetent dumbos?


Although the scenario of the recent incident in Pakistan cannot be mistake.

 

[VCheng]

.................... You cannot rationally argue that in complete darkness, in the middle of a military operation in mountainous terrain, that the troops allegedly under fire were able to very specifically pinpoint the location of the fire they were receiving as the two Pakistani border posts ......................

Yes, using a firefinder radar system, the source of unfriendly fire can be located, often even before the first round hits.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

The Daily Telegraph spoke to wounded survivors of the raid, who insisted they were victims of an unprovoked attack.

Amirzeb Khan, 23, said the area around the checkpoints, about two miles from the border, had been cleared of militants and the night had been quiet.

The attack, he said, came at about 2am. They counted four helicopters.

"Initially, we thought that the attackers were Taliban and we took positions to retaliate but then saw that at least four helicopters were shelling from above," he said from his bed at the Combined Military Hospital in Peshawar, where he was being treated for shrapnel injuries to his abdomen.

Hameedullah Wazir described a scene of chaos as an apparently indiscriminate rain of rockets exploded around the checkpoint, waking sleeping troops. He said the survivors simply ran.

"We didn't find time to respond as everything took place so quickly that we were unable to fight back," he said.

Pakistani soldiers who survived Nato attack say it was unprovoked attack - Telegraph

 

[Mansanpk2009]

If Pakistan would bow this time on this ugliest crime committed by NATO then we would never be able to rise our heads again. NATO supply should be blocked permanently..Not only that...but Pak Afghan Transit agreement should be suspended for an indefinite period.