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President Barack Obama’s nearly eight years in office form a remarkable arc. He moved from pursuing a G-2 condominium with China, excluding New Delhi, to crafting a joint strategic document with India.

Obviously, his advisers — Hillary Clinton was a big fan of G-2 — woke up in time before gains made by the Bush administration with India were squandered. Things warmed up slowly and the trust has certainly grown. But questions remain on how far either is willing to go for the other.

To what extent will Washington adjust its broader national security policies in South Asia to bolster India? And how tightly is New Delhi willing to embrace America? It’s noteworthy that the once-reluctant US government today enthusiastically supports making F-16s in India.

But will it sell armed Predator drones now that India has joined the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR)? Or would the ancient American logic of not altering the basic military balance in South Asia continue to dominate?

Defence minister Manohar Parrikar’s Washington foray was to nail down the big things. He managed to lead India to the signing table after more than a decade of indecision and opposition to sign a logistics agreement, allowing the two militaries to use each other’s facilities. It should extend the Indian Navy’s reach in the east.


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At the same time, US Secretary of State John Kerry and Commerce Secretary Penny Pritzker were in New Delhi for the second Strategic and Commercial Dialogue, leading a team of officials from 12 US agencies. As a senior state department official said, the meetings are an opportunity to “reflect upon where we have come” and “where we want to go”.

Obama and Prime Minister Narendra Modi have met seven times since 2014 and will meet again for the G-20 summit in China next month. The key issue for Obama remains the ratification of the climate change agreement to solidify his legacy. Kerry most certainly would have pushed India on that. But India has linked ratification to its membership in the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) where China and a few other countries opposed India’s entry in June.

Would Obama spend a bit of his remaining political capital to make things happen before he leaves office? India has met the requirements for admission into the NSG as US officials repeatedly stress. But US diplomatic muscle hasn’t been able to translate eligibility into membership. Yet.

On the defence front, progress is more tangible. Parrikar’s main objective with Defense Secretary Ashton Carter was to crystallise details of technology transfer issues, the crux of India being designated a “major defence partner”.

Parrikar had to judge what technology the US government is actually willing to part with, given the strong pitch by American defence majors offering to shift entire aircraft production lines to India. Company executives talk in superlative terms but all the lethal stuff (air-to-air missiles, Aesa (Active Electronically Scanned Array) radar and systems to identify friend or foe) is controlled by the US government.

Lockheed Martin wants to move its F-16/block 70 manufacturing line to India so long as it gets an order of 100 planes from the Indian Air Force. “The F-16s we would produce in India would be the most advanced and tailored to their requirements,” Abhay Paranjape, director of business development, Lockheed Martin Aeronautics, told me.

The IAF has already been “shown” the improvements made since F-16 was in the running for the Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA). Besides creating jobs under ‘Make in India’, the process would help the country become part of a valuable global supply chain. “What we have offered is unprecedented,” insists Paranjape.

But as always, the devil is in the detail. Contrary to some reports, India will not control who buys the planes or spare parts. It would be Washington. Those getting excited about choking off Pakistan and scoring a ‘strategic win’ should hold their horses.

The big questions remain unanswered. Would it be licensed manufacturing and broad technology transfer? Or acquisition by India of technology owned by Lockheed? The latter would make India the owner of intellectual property, allowing for more control on exports.

Then there is the mother of all dilemmas: Pakistan uses older versions of the F-16s. The IAF may not want to fly the same aircraft. Sweden’s Gripen, which is also in the running, may score on that front.

What’s clear is that New Delhi will drill down and vet what’s on offer to get the best deal and bend the arc India’s way.
 
Whatever it is, we need to be part of a group to contain China is next 20 years. Pakistan is a small player in the game but the real challenge is China. China is making a group of like minded countries. We should join hands with Japan and US. Its need of the time.
 
Anyone who thinks G2 is dead are in for a nasty surprise...

The incumbent BJP government is the worst thing that has ever happened to India.

It cleverly diverts attention of the gullible masses over emotive issues while silently implementing institutional changes that destroys the foundations of the country.

Even its knowledgeable supporters are puzzled on the decisions being taken but contend that since it is a nationalist government, there may be some unpublished reasons due to which such questionable actions are being taken and continue to support it even though they themselves are not fully convinced.

US is so happy with the performance the BJP government that it has acknowledged that what it could not achieve in more than two decades from 1990-2014, they have achieved in just 2 years.

Seems like the incumbent government of India is working overtime for the interests of US rather than interests of India itself...

Modi gets full credit for this transformational change...:tup::tup::tup:
 
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Anyone who thinks G2 is dead are in for a nasty surprise...

The incumbent BJP government is the worst thing that has ever happened to India.

It cleverly diverts attention of the gullible masses over emotive issues while silently implementing institutional changes that destroys the foundations of the country.

Even its knowledgeable supporters are puzzled on the decisions being taken but contend that since it is a nationalist government, there may be some unpublished reasons due to which such questionable actions are being taken and continue to support it even though they themselves are not fully convinced.

US is so happy with the performance the BJP government that it has acknowledged that what it could not achieve in more than two decades from 1990-2014, they have achieved in just 2 years.

Seems like the incumbent government of India is working overtime for the interests of US rather than interests of India itself...

Modi gets full credit for this transformational change...:tup::tup::tup:
Yes you are right and i met many Indian`s who have the same notion ,Why India strives in last 20 + years was because of non alignment with any super power ,they were happy to work with Russians ,doing trade with Chinese and kept US on the hook ,This has significantly changed the directions and clearly ranks and groups are seen . Any ways people here calling Pakistan a small player forgets down fall of USSR thru this small player ,It has created a problem for us Pakistani`s as well now we have to engage into big boys war and will be tool and in the right hand Pak is a very dangerous tool . I feel sorry for the poor people of both countries who are going to get more miserable as we just increased 100 Billion in our budgets and on useless things like bombs ,weapons similarly India which has more poor population then entire Pakistan has been increasing its military budgets
 
2050 pride & power projection = China gold. India silver, USA bronze. No other nation would come close.
 
Yes you are right and i met many Indian`s who have the same notion ,Why India strives in last 20 + years was because of non alignment with any super power ,they were happy to work with Russians ,doing trade with Chinese and kept US on the hook ,This has significantly changed the directions and clearly ranks and groups are seen . Any ways people here calling Pakistan a small player forgets down fall of USSR thru this small player ,It has created a problem for us Pakistani`s as well now we have to engage into big boys war and will be tool and in the right hand Pak is a very dangerous tool . I feel sorry for the poor people of both countries who are going to get more miserable as we just increased 100 Billion in our budgets and on useless things like bombs ,weapons similarly India which has more poor population then entire Pakistan has been increasing its military budgets
Russia will be our biggest Defense partner... trade with china will be doubled in volume and we will have excellent relation with USA as Bonus.
 
Russia will be our biggest Defense partner... trade with china will be doubled in volume and we will have excellent relation with USA as Bonus.
Not any more its the opposite ,US will be biggest defense partner followed by France , China will be biggest competitor for supplying of finished goods ,Russia will seek alternatives
 
Not any more its the opposite ,US will be biggest defense partner followed by France , China will be biggest competitor for supplying of finished goods ,Russia will seek alternatives
then wait and see it urself !
 
Not any more its the opposite ,US will be biggest defense partner followed by France , China will be biggest competitor for supplying of finished goods ,Russia will seek alternatives
more of wishful thinking than facts u dont have money to attract russians end off
 
http://blogs.economictimes.indiatimes.com/letterfromwashington/america-india-bhai-buy/


President Barack Obama’s nearly eight years in office form a remarkable arc. He moved from pursuing a G-2 condominium with China, excluding New Delhi, to crafting a joint strategic document with India.

Obviously, his advisers — Hillary Clinton was a big fan of G-2 — woke up in time before gains made by the Bush administration with India were squandered. Things warmed up slowly and the trust has certainly grown. But questions remain on how far either is willing to go for the other.

To what extent will Washington adjust its broader national security policies in South Asia to bolster India? And how tightly is New Delhi willing to embrace America? It’s noteworthy that the once-reluctant US government today enthusiastically supports making F-16s in India.

But will it sell armed Predator drones now that India has joined the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR)? Or would the ancient American logic of not altering the basic military balance in South Asia continue to dominate?

Defence minister Manohar Parrikar’s Washington foray was to nail down the big things. He managed to lead India to the signing table after more than a decade of indecision and opposition to sign a logistics agreement, allowing the two militaries to use each other’s facilities. It should extend the Indian Navy’s reach in the east.


And do visit our main showroom at Arlington County

At the same time, US Secretary of State John Kerry and Commerce Secretary Penny Pritzker were in New Delhi for the second Strategic and Commercial Dialogue, leading a team of officials from 12 US agencies. As a senior state department official said, the meetings are an opportunity to “reflect upon where we have come” and “where we want to go”.

Obama and Prime Minister Narendra Modi have met seven times since 2014 and will meet again for the G-20 summit in China next month. The key issue for Obama remains the ratification of the climate change agreement to solidify his legacy. Kerry most certainly would have pushed India on that. But India has linked ratification to its membership in the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) where China and a few other countries opposed India’s entry in June.

Would Obama spend a bit of his remaining political capital to make things happen before he leaves office? India has met the requirements for admission into the NSG as US officials repeatedly stress. But US diplomatic muscle hasn’t been able to translate eligibility into membership. Yet.

On the defence front, progress is more tangible. Parrikar’s main objective with Defense Secretary Ashton Carter was to crystallise details of technology transfer issues, the crux of India being designated a “major defence partner”.

Parrikar had to judge what technology the US government is actually willing to part with, given the strong pitch by American defence majors offering to shift entire aircraft production lines to India. Company executives talk in superlative terms but all the lethal stuff (air-to-air missiles, Aesa (Active Electronically Scanned Array) radar and systems to identify friend or foe) is controlled by the US government.

Lockheed Martin wants to move its F-16/block 70 manufacturing line to India so long as it gets an order of 100 planes from the Indian Air Force. “The F-16s we would produce in India would be the most advanced and tailored to their requirements,” Abhay Paranjape, director of business development, Lockheed Martin Aeronautics, told me.

The IAF has already been “shown” the improvements made since F-16 was in the running for the Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA). Besides creating jobs under ‘Make in India’, the process would help the country become part of a valuable global supply chain. “What we have offered is unprecedented,” insists Paranjape.

But as always, the devil is in the detail. Contrary to some reports, India will not control who buys the planes or spare parts. It would be Washington. Those getting excited about choking off Pakistan and scoring a ‘strategic win’ should hold their horses.

The big questions remain unanswered. Would it be licensed manufacturing and broad technology transfer? Or acquisition by India of technology owned by Lockheed? The latter would make India the owner of intellectual property, allowing for more control on exports.

Then there is the mother of all dilemmas: Pakistan uses older versions of the F-16s. The IAF may not want to fly the same aircraft. Sweden’s Gripen, which is also in the running, may score on that front.

What’s clear is that New Delhi will drill down and vet what’s on offer to get the best deal and bend the arc India’s way.

If the IAF gets 300 F-16s with latest avionics at $30-40 million per unit it would be a coup. transfer of technology will not happen on F-16 deal. The IAF could insist and get a 5-10 year reserve of spares. That would be quite a coup to get 300 F-16s for the price of 40 Rafales.

If India wants transfer of technology it should go for it in the economic & industrial sectors
 

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