Altay Comparison to Competitors

[ptldM3]

Russia’s brand-new tank just broke down in the middle of Moscow. Oooops


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Russia's Brand New Tank Just Broke Down In The Middle Of Moscow


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Tork, what is it with torks being obsessed with the T-14? Don't worry about the T-14. As for you trolling just like every other tork in this thread, the emergency braking system was accidentally activated, a technician or engineer figured out the problem and the tank drove away. The Armor recovery vehicle could not even get the T-14 to move an inch because the breaks were locked. If i was you i would worry less about the T-14 and more about the fact that the Atlay has a pathetically thin hatch/roof armor.



The pathetic roof armor of Altay which my rifle can probably penetrate, look at the size of those massive periscopes.

And the T-14's hatch/roof armor which is about 5x thicker. I don't know what is more sad the fact that the Altay has no roof armor and no side armor but still weighs as much as a train due to a poor design choice or the fact that those periscopes on the Altay are 6 times larger then the T-14's periscopes hence being more vulnerable. Nice rip off of the K-2, you guys just threw together a bunch of parts together, some from Korea and others from Germany, what the hell is even Turkish about the Altay?

As for all Turkish fanboys, i have not said a thing about the Altay until recently only after weeks of Turks trashing the T-14 so now the gloves are off, prepare for more of the above.

 

[era_shield]

Tork, what is it with torks being obsessed with the T-14? Don't worry about the T-14. As for you trolling just like every other tork in this thread(you guys keep brining up the T-14 not me)--the emergency braking system was accidentally activated, a technician or engineer figured out the problem and the tank drove away. If i was you i would worry less about the T-14 and more about the fact that the Atlay has a pathetically thin hatch/roof armor.



The pathetic roof armor of Altay which my rifle can probably penetrate, look at the size of those massive periscopes.


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And the T-14's hatch/roof armor which is about 5x thicker. I don't know what is more sad the fact that the Altay has no roof armor and no side armor but still weighs as much as a train due to a poor design choice or the fact that those periscopes on the Altay are 6 times larger then the T-14's periscopes hence being more vulnerable.

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As for all Turkish fanboys, i have not said a thing about the Altay until recently only after weeks of Turks trashing the T-14 so now the gloves are off, prepare for more of the above.

That picture is from one of the pre-prototypes. If you have a picture of one of the prototype' hatches open, post it.

More importantly, judging armour by thickness is idiotic. Not that Russians would know anything about making a well armoured tank - look at Ukraine, Syria, Iraq, etc. Full of Russian tank wrecks because Russian tanks have poor protection. You can start lecturing us when you can make a tank that can actually survive a battle.

 

[IR-TR]

Well now the Armata broke down in a parade rehearsal. At least Altay is a lot further in it's development cycle. Anyway, why hate? ANY new tank is impressive. The americans are still running that fat pig Abrams from 40 years ago. I enjoy any time a new tank is rolled out. Let's wish them both well.

 

[ptldM3]

That picture is from one of the pre-prototypes. If you have a picture of one of the prototype' hatches open, post it.

That is not how debates work, unless you have something to counter my proof be quite.

More importantly, judging armour by thickness is idiotic.

Okay yet torks have been judging the T-14 up and down, no turks had a problem with it, in fact everyone jumped in and took jabs athe the T-14 and now you are crying that i hit back. As for your comment, it is pretty idiotic. The roof armor of the T-14 is about 5x times thicker. Thicker armor=better protection.

Not that Russians would know anything about making a well armoured tank - look at Ukraine, Syria, Iraq, etc. Full of Russian tank wrecks because Russian tanks have poor protection.

Right, some old Soviet tanks from the 1950's and 1960's being hit with modern anti tank missiles proves nothing, there is even countless pictures of destroyed and burned out Abrams tanks.

You can start lecturing us when you can make a tank that can actually survive a battle.

We built nuclear power plants for you You use Russian inventions everyday, you have nothing that was built without the help of someone else, guess who came up with the smoothbore gun? The only people that began the lecturing was torks like yourself that can not seem to shut up about the T-14. In other words you torks started it and i put up with it but now the gloves are off. And don't insult me by by even comparing Turkish engineering or lack there of to Russian, you guys are bottom feeders.

Well now the Armata broke down in a parade rehearsal. At least Altay is a lot further in it's development cycle. Anyway, why hate? ANY new tank is impressive. The americans are still running that fat pig Abrams from 40 years ago. I enjoy any time a new tank is rolled out. Let's wish them both well.

God, get it right, it did not break down, it's emergency braking system was accidentally turned on and once a technician figured out the problem he turned off the breaking system and the tank drove away.



@Serpentine i have noticed that regular mods let the torks run around and troll in this thread. How is this allowed? I have been putting up with these turks trolling but now i don't care, i will give them a taste of their own medicine by trashing the Altay. Read through the thread and either try to clean it up, warn people or ban people or relax and laugh at Turkish stupidity or invite your Iranian friends like @SOHEIL and others to come in and trash the Altay tank.

 

[cabatli_53]

Dude, It is enough. We have a vast of subject to talk about in those days. I can't waste my time to kick you about that subject.

T-14 is superior.
T-14 is perfect.
T-14 is lower as you expected.
T-14 is smaller as you expected.
T-14 has an unbeatable slopped turret as you expected.
T-14 slopped turret is even better than Merkava in terms of shape.
T-14 hatches are protected much better than any tank moving on Earth.
T-14 turret armour are 3x bigger than What World tanks have at present.
T-14 isn2t broken down during parade. It was just drivers fault. If you eat.

OK ? I should concantrate over hundreds of different subject instead of giving some lessons to you. Go to your section dude...

 

[era_shield]

That is not how debates work, unless you have something to counter my proof be quite.








Okay yet torks have been judging the T-14 up and down, no turks had a problem with it in fact everyone jumped in and now you are crying that i hit back. As for your comment, it is pretty idiotic. The roof armor of the T-14 is about 5x times thicker. Thicker armor=better protection.

Put the vodka down my friend, it's affecting your vision and your thinking.

Since you don't seem to understand what "burden of proof" means, or what logic is, I'll only say 1 more thing: here are the Challenger 2's hatches, which is the best protected tank in the world (until Altay goes into service):

 

[SOHEIL]

look at Ukraine, Syria, Iraq, etc. Full of Russian tank wrecks because Russian tanks have poor protection.

Please list the mentioned tanks !

 

[ptldM3]

Put the vodka down my friend, it's affecting your vision and your thinking.

Since you don't seem to understand what "burden of proof" means, or what logic is, I'll only say 1 more thing: here are the Challenger 2's hatches, which is the best protected tank in the world (until Altay goes into service):

Oh please, first the challenger is the best protected, then the Merkava, then the Abrams...ect it's the same song and dance all have been destroyed in recent years using Russian made weapons. The Altay has no roof protection whatsoever while the T-14 has the thickest roof armor of any known tank, so you can pout and call me whatever name you want but that does not change the fact the the Altay has crap protection both on the roof and the side of the tank.

All modern tanks besides the T-14 have thin roof armor, so there is no excuse. If the Challenger has thin roof armor that does not exclude it from having poor protection.

 

[cabatli_53]

Oh please, first the challenger is the best protected, then the Merkava, then the Abrams...ect it's the same song and dance. The Altay has no roof protection whatsoever while the T-14 has the thickest roof armor of any known tank, so you can pout and call me whatever name you want but that does not change the fact the the Altay has crap protection both on the roof and the side of the tank.

All modern tanks besides the T-14 have thin roof armor, so there is no excuse. If the Challenger has thin roof armor that does not exclude it from having poor protection.

Yes dude, Altay has really poor roof protection. You know everything that We don't know about Altay. Your T-14 is great. T-14 is the king of tanks... It is enough just cut this crap claims that You don't hve any idea...

 

[ptldM3]

Dude, It is enough. We have a vast of subject to talk about in those days. I can't waste my time to kick you about that subject.

T-14 is superior.
T-14 is perfect.
T-14 is lower as you expected.
T-14 is smaller as you expected.
T-14 has an unbeatable slopped turret as you expected.
T-14 slopped turret is even better than Merkava in terms of shape.
T-14 hatches are protected much better than any tank moving on Earth.
T-14 turret armour are 3x bigger than What World tanks have at present.
T-14 isn2t broken down during parade. It was just drivers fault. If you eat.

OK ? I should concantrate over hundreds of different subject instead of giving some lessons to you. Go to your section dude...

You need to stop being dishonest. It was the Turks that derailed the thread. It was you and others like you that started bashing the T-14, i put up with it for a long time. In fact i never even mentioned the Altay, for much of my debates, instead i only countered the insults you turks were throwing around.

Again it was not me who started it but i can finish.

 

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Yes dude, Altay has really poor roof protection. You know everything that We don't know about Altay. Your T-14 is great. T-14 is the king of tanks... It is enough just cut this crap claims that You don't hve any idea...

Wait, Altay has no roof protection though.. That's like 2x thicker than those hatches on T14

 

[mehmet75]

To my russian friend;

The picture you showed us as "roof" is not roof. It is hatch of driver. Over the driver hatch there is a huge turret if you see. So any danger comes to driver hatch must pass the turret first place.

And who knows the quality of the steel of hatches anyway.. if you use "kitchen standart steel" while you are making a tank, then you make your hatches so thick. We use NATO standart production. You heard about aqap standarts wright?

 

[Azeri440]

Oh please, first the challenger is the best protected, then the Merkava, then the Abrams...ect it's the same song and dance all have been destroyed in recent years using Russian made weapons. The Altay has no roof protection whatsoever while the T-14 has the thickest roof armor of any known tank, so you can pout and call me whatever name you want but that does not change the fact the the Altay has crap protection both on the roof and the side of the tank.

All modern tanks besides the T-14 have thin roof armor, so there is no excuse. If the Challenger has thin roof armor that does not exclude it from having poor protection.

Lol , Leopard 2A7 has roof armor (just one example)
older western tanks didn't have them due to lack of top attack missiles
now there are a lot of upgrades that incorporate additional roof armor

 

[ptldM3]

To my russian friend;

The picture you showed us as "roof" is not roof. It is hatch of driver. Over the driver hatch there is a huge turret if you see. So any danger comes to driver hatch must pass the turret first place.

And who knows the quality of the steel of hatches anyway.. if you use "kitchen standart steel" while you are making a tank, then you make your hatches so thick. We use NATO standart production. You heard about aqap standarts wright?

The Atlay drivers hatch will never be that thick due to the turret being in the way. As for your ubber NATO standard, it did not help all of those burned out Abrams in Iraq and what standard are you even talking about? The Altay uses South Korean armor does it not? Is South Korea a NATO member?

 

[TurAr]