Altaf/MQM abused ISI and Army & media persons of dire consequences if Altaf/MQM is criticized

[Slav Defence]

Nope, not working of course. Trying to determine the cause of this immense hatred and irrationality. I was once told that roaming the world, broadens the mind. This is a great social experiement, to be honest.

Exposure towards unsuitable environment-(in a sense that they may have experienced negative behavior or literature at least which hinder their capacity to think positively & understanding other people & culture in neutral manner.
Some people (talking in general) already develop hypothesis without making complete observations and then they develop their knowledge on basis of that hypothesis without considering consequences. They must keep their approach neutral and come to hypothesis after gaining significant knowledge & observation.
I am just talking about hypothesis testing rather than drawing inferences & conclusions.They are the last most step and critical since they require complete evidence or prob (max/min) close to the evidence.
Regards

 

[Armstrong]

I think you are just urban Pakistani and do not belong to any ethnic group. You are neither Kashmiri and neither punjabi. Your mother was likely muhajir? That explain why you can't speak any native tongue.

 

[HRK]

Waisee @HRK Bhai what the heck is an Urdu Speaker ?

My mother tongue is Urdu; what in heaven's name am I then ?

Yeh aaap Karachiwalooon nei Urdu-Speaker term Copyright karvaa liiii haiiii !

Why can't I just call you & Secur as Karachiwalaas !

That is so much more simple than Muhajir or Urdu Speaker !

I mean Muhajir tou aap donnon hain nahin unless you're older than Pakistan !

And Urdu Speaker tou Punjab mein bakiii Pakistan seh ziyadaa hain !

In fact you & I are the same people !

With the only difference being that you & Secur speak Urdu with a funny accent !

@HRK Bhai aap ka tou pataa nahin Secur seh 'rrr' sound nahin nikalii jatiii aur instead of saying Chal Rahaa haiii he says Chal Liyaa ehhhh !

Aur abbb waisee bhi eik addad Pukhtoon Biwi dhoond rahaa haiii tou bachiii kuchiii Urdu ka bhi satyaa naaas ho jaii gaaa !

Kiya baaat kar raheiii hain aaap Lovey Bhai ?

Murrr jaiiin gaiii hum Punjabi purrr Pakistan ko support karnaa nahin choreiiii geiiiin !

Mereiii liyee Pakistan keh khilaaf koi baaat sochnaaa bhiii Kufar keh barabar hai !

Identity crises .....

it is not exclusive to Karachiwala but to every region of our country, some suffer more some suffer less.

don't know I should say it or not but I think everyone be it Punjabis, Sindhis, Balochs & Pukhtoons all are suffering with this crisis.

But sahib - ap senti howay rahte ho, When every other ethnicity can play ethnic card shamelessly than why Punjabies should not try this game as well, enough of Punjabi boogeyman, Project Greater Punjab is resumed again.

Sarkar if some people are going in wrong direction, is it necessary for others to follow .... ??

 

[rockstar08]

Why Army did not condemned this statement of AH , just like they did in case muwaar hussain ??...
doesnt make any sense .....

 

[Slav Defence]

Identity crises .....

it is not exclusive to Karachiwala but to every region of our country, some suffer more some suffer less.

don't know I should say it or not but I think everyone be it Punjabis, Sindhis, Balochs & Pukhtoons all are suffering with this crisis.



Sarkar if some people are going in wrong direction, is it necessary for others to follow .... ??

There is no cure for such people-,that is why I find it useless to argue with such mindsets.Who talked about solution?no one except few.This thread is just filled with racists slurs and hatred against both beharis and punjabis.It is complete useless.
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[ghoul]

Shahmir was banned for all the wrong reasons and bias of some users here. Of course, only one ethnicity has the right to be racist in Pakistan, all others can't use racist terminology because it is bigoted and all.

But sahib - ap senti howay rahte ho, When every other ethnicity can play ethnic card shamelessly than why Punjabies should not try this game as well, enough of Punjabi boogeyman, Project Greater Punjab is resumed again.

I'm in, considering recent oil finds in Jhelum and high quality coal in Chakwal. Punjab+cozy relations with India and access to their port of Surat+investment by wealthy Sikh diapora=win. The ethnic card addicted nationalities can fight a Sri Lankan-esque civil war in Sindh, lol.

 

[rockstar08]

after reading 16 page , i can say that our nation is divided ... a lot more than we can imagine ...
Pakistan Ka Allah hi Hafiz hai bhai ...
Time to move to UAE
Izzat se aur haq halal ki roti kamane ke liye UAe best hai , aur jobs aur visa bhi mil jata hai

 

[Slav Defence]

after reading 16 page , i can say that our nation is divided ... a lot more than we can imagine ...
Pakistan Ka Allah hi Hafiz hai bhai ...
Time to move to UAE
Izzat se aur haq halal ki roti kamane ke liye UAe best hai , aur jobs aur visa bhi mil jata hai

Just because few senseless people are throwing shit at each other doesn't mean that Pakistan is gone.These people are not representing patriotic Punjabis and beharis.This very same Punjab and Sindh has given birth to people which have made us proud including Baluchistan as well.
Let them ease their frustration as nothing is gonna change, Pakistan will Inshallah continue her journey towards prosperity.Take yourself as prime example-aren't you patriot? Don't you condemn these slurs / low class bullshitting (koowein ka mandak mindset?)your condemning is itself a ray of hope for Pakistani future.
Regards

 

[Sugarcane]

Sarkar if some people are going in wrong direction, is it necessary for others to follow .... ??

Sure it's some people not all, but unless majority don't stand up against black sheep among themselves and keep silence than that majority is irrelevant. And we can't convince the people who are given Anti-Punjabi and Sel-supremacy-delusion doses since childhood by their under achiever/looser parents and mentors. I have already done my part of contribution in clarifying the misunderstanding and propaganda and concluded that this is waste of time, the only way for Punjabies is to give up political correctness, reconciliation and apologetic attitude and talk in language they understand.

 

[Samandri]

Exposure towards unsuitable environment-(in a sense that they may have experienced negative behavior or literature at least which hinder their capacity to think positively & understanding other people & culture in neutral manner.
Some people (talking in general) already develop hypothesis without making complete observations and then they develop their knowledge on basis of that hypothesis without considering consequences. They must keep their approach neutral and come to hypothesis after gaining significant knowledge & observation.
I am just talking about hypothesis testing rather than drawing inferences & conclusions.They are the last most step and critical since they require complete evidence or prob (max/min) close to the evidence.
Regards

Tumaray posts parrh kar lagta hey 'Essay writing' competition may baitay ho. No offense but it seems you are school boy with more concentration on constructing english sentences and paragraphs, very little content and material in your posts.

 

[HRK]

Sure it's some people not all, but unless majority don't stand up against black sheep among themselves and keep silence than that majority is irrelevant.

Just answer 2 question
1- How the 'majority' has responded in past and in present times ... ??
2- How should majority respond in the future ... ??

And we can't convince the people who are given Anti-Punjabi and Sel-supremacy-delusion doses since childhood by their under achiever/looser parents and mentors. I have already done my part of contribution in clarifying the misunderstanding and propaganda and concluded that this is waste of time, the only way for Punjabies is to give up political correctness, reconciliation and apologetic attitude and talk in language they understand.

Again ...
What language they (Nationalist element) understand ... ??

 

[Sugarcane]

I'm in, considering recent oil finds in Jhelum and high quality coal in Chakwal. Punjab+cozy relations with India and access to their port of Surat+investment by wealthy Sikh diapora=win. The ethnic card addicted nationalities can fight a Sri Lankan-esque civil war in Sindh, lol.

LOL - I think as Punjabi are already being blamed that they are ruling, so we should go ahead and extend boundaries of Punjab as per our proportion to population.

 

[Samandri]

I know, but why explain it to me? Is sympathy of sorts, just the thing you need after talking BS in this thread? Is it me who's wishes to demonize an ethnicity based on some half-cooked articles and invented stories? Trying to prove to me that its evil Urdu-speakers doing all bad things? I dont understand, please explain me the reason for this post.

Matlab ye key why you have one-sided and ethno-centric approach. You are so defensive about criticism on MQM that you are misusing previlege of issueing negative ratings. Why playing victim card when culprits are among your ranks?. Calling others racist but thinking that you are licensed to do racism, as if its halal for your kind. Analysing pashtuns in every wrong and critical way but when biharis are analyzed you cry of racism?. When a karachiites talks racist stuff about pashtuns, you are silenced nowhere to be seen, when we even use word mohajir, you pop up and start issueing negative ratings, at the same time crying and shouting of racism and what not. It feels to me that every karachiite is dramaybaz like altaf bhai or perhaps his dramaybazi has worked on you people.

 

[Slav Defence]

Tumaray posts parrh kar lagta hey 'Essay writing' competition may baitay ho. No offense but it seems you are school boy with more concentration on constructing english sentences and paragraphs, very little content and material in your posts.

Lol,and no one bothered to read my earlier posts in which I have posted solutions( from replacing ECP system to SCP and so on) and I was only quoted for above post without understanding the depth & intensity of my post.
Actually,it depends upon level of understanding things.I wasn't expecting any useful input from you.If you find it so useless then don't bother to respond,as simple as that.I know exactly what am I writing and why am I writing.Next time only respond if you have really something useful to say.
Thanks

 

[Sugarcane]

Just answer 2 question
1- How the 'majority' has responded in past and in present times ... ??
2- How should majority respond in the future ... ??

1. Silence is approval
2. What can be worst case?

Again ...
What language they (Nationalist element) understand ... ??

Bust their delusion with blunt truth - the most basic things is to tell the delusional people who think they created Pakistan the reality that Pakistan was a pipe dream until Punjabies backed it, blood of Punjabies were spilled, they lost their wealth, unlike them Punjabies didn't have luxury to close down their business, sell their property and get settled in prime city, nor their was special quota for them in govt. jobs to accommodate them, nor their relatives after getting hold of bureaucracy started calling them to Pakistan and handing out govt. jobs.