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The very fact that he Catholic church asked to be included in the decision making and law making makes EU non secular! coz it is putting in Christian morals as a ground for making decisions...So it is rather deceitful that EU claims to be secularThe Vatican is a sovereign state, and it is the Vatican that has representatives,
so a lot of your comments is redundant.
What is important is if laws are designed to repress religions or not.
If a new state if formed in Europe based on a religion, and it is recognized
by the rest, there will be ambassadors there as well.
As for not hiring non-Christians, you normally have a clause that allows employers,
to fire disloyal employees. Since the church is "selling" faith, not sharing that faith
is questioning the main product, and thus disloyal, and cause for dismissal.
The view on sexuality differs between Catholic and Protestant countries.
I do not see any of the problems you mention here and the Pope
has no authority whatsoever over Protestant countries.
His authority over Catholic countries is immense, and based on people
supporting him out of free will.
And when France went all racist... I didnt see the Catholic nun's asked not to cover their heads
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Yes that is not the problem...Problem arises when people say Jesus is son of ALLAH (for them it means god) butAllah, Rab ul Aalameen not Rab ul Muslimeen. Remember that.
it goes against these verses:
They say: "Allah has begotten a Son". Glory be to Him! His is what the heavens and the earth contain; all things are obedient to Him. Creator of the heavens and the earth! When he decrees a thing, He need only say "Be", and it is.
—Qur'an 2:116
They say, ‘God has begotten a son.’ God forbid! Self-sufficient is He. His is all that the heavens and the earth contain. Surely for this you have no sanction. Whould you say of God what you know not?
—Qur’an 10:68
Wonderful Originator of the heavens and the earth; how can He have a son when He has no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.
—Qur'an 6:101
Never has God begotten a son, nor is there any other god besides Him. Were this otherwise, each god would govern his own creation, each holding himself above the other. Exalted be God above their falsehoods!
—Qur’an 23:91
Say: ‘GOD is One, the Eternal God. He begot none, nor was He begotten. None is equal to Him.’
—Qur’an 112:1-4
In each ayat the God is ALLAH
Like @A.P. Richelieu said :
have a clause that allows employers,
to fire disloyal employees. Since the church is "selling" faith, not sharing that faith
is questioning the main product, and thus disloyal, and cause for dismissal.
Well Malaysia is not secular so when someone goes against its religion they put a fullstop there...in this case the approval of a new law to prevent the destruction of their product (religion)
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